Aftermath of Katrina. How much for gas?

Man, this is unreal. I filled up last night with premium and it was $2.89 per gallon. This morning I saw $3.09 for premium posted on the sign at the same gas station.

How much are you paying per gallon, regular unleaded, mid-grade or premium?

It would be interesting to see how we are all getting screwed.



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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

The station down the street from me here in south florida is at 2.99 already, amlost there. its so ridiculous, i remember back in the day when it was only like 1.19 or 1.25 for regular. yep, those were the days. :mad:

it's $3.19 here in Flint, MI for regular, Premium is $3.39 OUCH!!!!

Man, this is unreal. I filled up last night with premium and it was $2.89 per gallon. This morning I saw $3.09 for premium posted on the sign at the same gas station.

How much are you paying per gallon, regular unleaded, mid-grade or premium?

It would be interesting to see how we are all getting screwed.



my micro teacher said it could reach $4 pretty soon..i feel bad for all those ppl tho. one of my friends parents lived in buras..and its all gone

Gas in central PA was $2.59 for regular, $2.69 for mid grade and $2.79 for premium. (Sunoco) On Sunday I paid $.12 less a gallon. I noticed some places the cost went up $.12 yesterday. Exxon this morning was $2.69 per gallon for regular.

If you check the NYMEX the price of a gallon of gas wholesale has risen from $1.95 for Oct. delivery before the hurricane to $2.66 per gallon as of 1/2 an hour ago. Some news services are saying $4.00 per gallon in the very near future if the refineries don't get back into operation soon. Of course the oil companies continue to make huge profits at our expense!!!

Once again you can thank Uncle Sam and the EPA for the price increase since there hasn't been a new refinery built in this country in the last 40 years due to environmental regulations.

$2.99 for premium 15 min north of Fort Worth.

Going motorcycle shopping this weekend.

Just started seeing 3.25 for REGULAR here in Milwaukee, WI. Gee wonder if they;ll start building more f'ing refineries now.

Yesterday was $2.79, today is $3.39 near and in minneapolis, mn. I say $4 buy this weekend.

3.09 for regular here in Benton Harbor Mi. I seen a station in South Bend Ind selling regular for 3.49!!! Unreal..................

Price went up since my last post went up $.32 per gallon across the board. I believe $4 is not out of the question!

$2.80 in Rockford, IL as of today, have to see when I come home tonight, should be up near 3.00.
The truck that gets 15 mpg will never move unless hualing somehting, and gonna buy a bike soon...
Here's a good topic, do a search see the gas prices in Europe. Then in the middle east, kind of interesting.

JP

Edit : check this out http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

i know i shouldnt be getting into this but some of us belive its because of that certian someone gas is like this....

Update for West Texas (El Paso)

reg. unleaded $2.99
mid-grade $3.09
premium $3.19

What's ironic is we have two refineries in the County and oil fields of West Texas Crude just 250 miles east.

Its unbelievable how one catastropic event or act of mother nature can affect the whole country.




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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

hey yall lets just move to Caracas Venezuela 0.12 a gallon

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/city.html

Pontiac, IL 100 miles SE of Chicago
$3.10 Regular
$3.20 Mid
$3.30 Premium

Today in N.C. Indiana it was $2.48 Suday, Monday it went to $2.68 gal for the cheap stuff. Today it is $3.59 for the same cheap shit that came out of the nossel five days ago. I filled both cars and four 5 gal cans Sunday. But in no way will it last till the price drops.LOL!

I'll probley see $4.50 a Gal by my weekend. Its like it some contest where they just keep uping the price all day.

But I still drive , and I'm sure you all will drive too. So lets use it up, quick! LMAO. The price of EVERTHING is going up, just wait and seee.

I work at a gas station as my college job.

THis is for 89 Octane with the 10% ethanol which makes it the cheapest blend with all the subsidies:

Sun: $2.59
Monday: $2.65
Tuesday: $2.89
Today : $3.19

That's a 23% increase over a period of 4 days! If things stabilize around here it won't be too bad.

However, you may see a serious shock in the economy if things go to $4/gal. Gasoline has such an inflationary effect on everything and when a major economy input doubles in a matter of a month, it's not good.

This will underscore the fact that refinery capacity needs to be addressed. Companies have not built any new ones because as our fellow user in his Economics courses is probably learning that you operate efficently near capacity when marginal revenue = marginal costs.

At my average fill up of 13 gallons, it will cost me $208/mo to fill up my tank at $4. My buddy who I work with bought a Dodge ram and with his 35 gallon tank, his fill ups will cost $140 or $560 a month!

Yikes!

I just paid $3.69 for Premium...LOng Island NY, at 11:30PM..The guy at the register told me his boss told him to raise it in the morning to $3.99, and that it will probobly increase more throughout the day...Like MEMEME said Venezuala is about .12 cents per gal...Maybe we should impeach Bush and elect Chavez

It's not Bush's fault. We need to kick the speculators out of the market and let pure supply demand take force.

It's not the time to be capitalizing on this market right now.

If you can get through since this site has obviously seen a spike in popularity:

http://www.gasbuddy.com/

Well, we are at an all time real and nominal high. The record adjusted for inflation was $3.11 set back in 1981.

Sorry to bring politics into this guys...(Bush Chavez), thats a totally different forum...I did post a new thread. It ask may help us deal with coping with the high price of gas...after all this isn't a ricers forum...the 4 bangers, even with mods can get alot better MPG's if driven properly....

Due to our system of capitalism and free enterprise, we'll never have gas prices as low as the countries that have nationalized their oil fields and refineries. According to the American Petroleum Institute, in Texas, for example, approximately 40 cents per gallon is federal exise and state tax. Plus local entities probably get their share on top of that too.

Regardless, the government bears a burden. Other than tapping into the strategic reserves or removing the bar to regional gasoline distribution, maybe the taxes should be reduced or waived.

My question is where did all that tax money go? It sure as hell did not go to improving the oil infrastructure such as making new refineries or renovation. And we are paying the price today.

BTW - I firmly believe that the outrageous price hikes in certain regions is nothing but price gouging. Even the evening news was publishing the telephone number to the State Attorney General's office for complaints.




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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

I heard the UK has been paying $6 a gal for a long time now. And it is all about Politics here is something i read last year. http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0111-01.htm

Its all about who's a millionaire. All the proffits lining CEO's pockets and Presidents of-shore accounts in Aruba. Its just not right! Minimum wage is an all time low, compared to the cost of living. If our Govnt expects everyone to go to work then they need to stop the inflating price our food, fuel and supplies.

Exxon in the first quarter this year Made $5 billion in 'Proffit'. I wondered where all my money went, LOL! Its just funny Bush Sr. done the same thing in the early 90's w/Gulf War. I guess Jr. has a model to plan by.

I just feel sorry for all those people down south who hav nothing. Here we are typing away, not a care in the world, and most of them dont even hav a drink of water or some food to eat. Their homes, cars, personal belongings, everthings gone and the ends not even in sight.

I just feel sorry for all those people down south who hav nothing. Here we are typing away, not a care in the world, and most of them dont even hav a drink of water or some food to eat. Their homes, cars, personal belongings, everthings gone and the ends not even in sight.

Actually we as Americans do care and if you look around we are starting to mobilize. The first line of support has to come from government, otherwise we're all in trouble next time there is a major disaster.

Through the local high schools we are collecting money, food, bottled water and other supplies to have shipped there. I went to the American Red Cross and made a charitable contribution, yesterday. I challenge all to do the same.

It would be nice to volunteer and go there to help but we have jobs to worry about, schooling, and our own matters, etc. Help comes in many forms.




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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

hey yall lets just move to Caracas Venezuela 0.12 a gallon

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/city.html

The difference there is the Government owns the Oil,Here and in the US Oil companies own the Oil and they will only sell at world prices because there in it for the money.
You can thank our government's for that.
This morning gas is going for $1.29 per liter in Toronto.

This morning gas is going for $1.29 per liter in Toronto.


Wylie, was that $1.29/litre Canadian? If so, check my math:

1 gallon = 3 .785 litres = $4.88

$4.10 USD per gallon. Is this correct? :dunno:





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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

Yes i would be nice to personally go and help out with the mess. OK, maybe we're not all obliviuos to this evil catastrophe. A grave misfortune for us ALL.

What needs to be done is raising that whole 'under sea' level problem they hav, otherwise its just gonna flood some other time. I know its like thousands of acres, but if we can put a man in space, we sure as hell can elevate that geographic Location. Japan built and island just to put an airport on, anythings possible when you set you mind to it.

Wylie, was that $1.29/litre Canadian? If so, check my math:

1 gallon = 3 .785 litres = $4.88

$4.10 USD per gallon. Is this correct?

You got it Buddy $4.88 CND - $3.90 USD luckly my company gives me a fleet card for gas or else I couldn't afford to come to work.

Watch now how the price of everything is going rise.
If you need anY big ticket items you may want to buy them now.

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Bnaylor:

You are right on these taxes going to the wrong areas. That's why I laugh when they say they are cutting a program or implementing a tax to save/raise money. You know that money is going to help build a $230m bridge in Alaska or but a bronze statue of a Senator in his/her home town's new, Federally constructed park to guarantee an election.

I firmly believe that price gouging is taking place, however at the market level. What happens is that ousiders who have a financial interest in oil buy it all up in anticipation of prices going up.

This runup in prices is basically in IMO a huge bubble. You have people who go on TV back like in the dot-com days and preach that prices will hit $100. Then Joe day trader sees this and realizes that he can make $40/barrel on this stuff and buys it in hopes to sell it off. That removes supply for people who actually buy the oil to use it and drives prices higher.

I also think that all the different blends of gasoline needs to be simplified in order to give companies the ability to say blend one type for a 10 state region instead of blending 10 types for a 4 state region.

Economists are worried about a supply side shock in a macroeconomic sense. Energy makes up a huge component of Aggregate Supply and this kind of shock can trigger Stagflation or when prices rise (inflation) but GDP decreases (recession).

As long as commercial companies own the Oil we'll never have control over the price.
The sad part about it is that allot of people are suffering or dead and the price of Oil has distracted us.
I'm not religious but I pray for New Orleans and all the people there.
And look at the F**king mess our governments have got us in now.

Sure put government in charge of oil,, maybe they can do such a good job with that like they have done with public housing? supply isnt the problem,, we need refineries. (sp) everyone wants one just not in their back yard..Bushes engery plan calls for new ones built on closed military bases,, I like that idea,, Florida wont let us drill off shore due to enviroment concerns,, wheres the best place to fish offshore? (oil rigs!) When was the last time you ever heard of a oil rig having a spill in the last 30 years? even with all the hurricanes,,hasnt happened... drill AK 93% of the residents near there say they want it! Oh ya Birmingham, AL all near $3.00-3.19 for the cheap stuff! was 2.47 two days ago!!!

supply isnt the problem,, we need refineries.

Well sure thats part of the whole scam as long as the demand is greater than the supply they can charge what ever the hell they want for it.
The government had their chance and they did screw it up thats why they don't have any control over the oil.
I just think whats happening with Katrina is an other example of how governments have lost focus on what there actual job is "protected the people"
example: ban herbal remedies yet sell people cigarettes.whose in control there the gov or drug companies?
Remember this is coming from someone who has lost total faith in the gov.
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Its looks like the situation is starting to stabilize in my area. West Texas - El Paso. On average we are at:

$2.94 for reg.
$3.04 for mid-grade
$3.14 for premium

Some state governmental officials are getting into the act and have stated that price gouging will not be tolerated and retailers taking advantage will be investigated under the consumer protection laws of the state.

According to the news, at least 50,000 of the refugees impacted by Katrina are being taken in to Texas to Houston and San Antonio.

It's ironic that the sovereign State of Texas bails out the Union (Feds) again.




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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

Its looks like the situation is starting to stabilize in my area. West Texas - El Paso. On average we are at:

$2.94 for reg.
$3.04 for mid-grade
$3.14 for premium

Some state governmental officials are getting into the act and have stated that price gouging will not be tolerated and retailers taking advantage will be investigated under the consumer protection laws of the state.

According to the news, at least 50,000 of the refugees impacted by Katrina are being taken in to Texas to Houston and San Antonio.

It's ironic that the sovereign State of Texas bails out the Union (Feds) again.

I saw your Buddy Bush on TV last night he says
If you don't need gas don't buy it "Thats absolutely brilliant"
Why didn't we think of that.

Gas here today is $1.34 per litre

1.34 x 3.785 = $5.07cnd / 1.25 = $4.05usd

They take and extra hit on us because its Friday before the long weekend it will probably come down on Tuesday.
Did you read this? http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html
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I saw your Buddy Bush on TV last night he says
If you don't need gas don't buy it "Thats absolutely brilliant"
Why didn't we think of that.

Gas here today is $1.34 per litre

1.34 x 3.785 = $5.07cnd / 1.25 = $4.05usd

They take and extra hit on us because its Friday before the long weekend it will probably come down on Tuesday.
Did you read this? http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/index.html
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lol. He ain't my Buddy. :lol2:

I'm surprised that Canadian TV even shows his mug. You guys up North are already P.O. 'd at him enough as it is. As a former soldier, I'm apolitical so I really don't care who the Commander in Chief is as long as it isn't Jimmy Carter. :lol2: Even wild Bill Clinton was cool in some respect. :dunno:




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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

lol. He ain't my Buddy. :lol2:

I'm surprised that Canadian TV even shows his mug. You guys up North are already P.O. 'd at him enough as it is. As a former soldier, I'm apolitical so I really don't care who the Commander in Chief is as long as it isn't Jimmy Carter. :lol2: Even wild Bill Clinton was cool in some respect. :dunno:

Ya well our jokers are still out of parliament for holidays.
I wouldn't want to be in New Orleans Mayors shoes, at least he isn't afraid to speak up.
I was in New Orleans last year had a hell of a time there from what I hear.
When ever the ladies come over I put a little Zydeco on it works magic every time :D
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I here ya about Clinton he can come to my house any time not sure if I'd take one of his cigars though.
Might have to twist him up a big fatty.
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Gas will probably drop back down tomorrow.

NYMEX oil futures as of 229 PM are trading @ 67.57
NYMEX Unleaded gas futures are trading @ 2.18

It was near $3 a gallon a couple days ago if I recollect correctly. Oil has dropped $2.50 since it's highs.

Ya well our jokers are still out of parliament for holidays.
I wouldn't want to be in New Orleans Mayors shoes, at least he isn't afraid to speak up.
I was in New Orleans last year had a hell of a time there from what I hear.
When ever the ladies come over I put a little Zydeco on it works magic every time :D
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I here ya about Clinton he can come to my house any time not sure if I'd take one of his cigars though.
Might have to twist him up a big fatty.
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Zydeco? Isn't that Cajun-Folk genre music?

Just make sure wild Bill keeps his pants on....lol. :lol2:

I really wonder what kind of car he drives. Bush probably drives a pickup truck. :dunno:



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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

Zydeco? Isn't that Cajun-Folk genre music?

Just make sure wild Bill keeps his pants on....lol. :lol2:

I really wonder what kind of car he drives. Bush probably drives a pickup truck. :dunno:




Ya Zydeco, its good stuff.
Bush Drive? you can bet hes not worried about fuel efficiency.
I see he took that Jumbo Jet out for a spin in the middle of a fuel*crisis.*
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This is my opinion,and I will speak my mind.Bush has made to many costly mistakes that were paying for right now.You can say want you want about President Bill Clinton,but he was very articulate in foreign diplomacy.Bush has none whatsoever.This administration has made huge profits by hiring there own inner circle for the rebuilding process in Iraq,which we will pay for in the long run.What has Bush done for this country.Let's give more tax breaks to the rich,and outsource more jobs.What a genius.Lets spread diplomacy through out the middle east.Who cares if the have been fighting over lines in the sand for 2000 years.

Why don't we ask for "OIL" for all the work and construction that is being done in Iraq.I know that rebuilding is a part of war,but alot of money is being spent on there schools,government,and structure of there country.How about,"WE WILL WORK FOR OIL".Wait! that wont work either.Remember the oil for food program,that was first started in Iraq.It turned into greed,and money to line back pockets.


My prayers go out to all the people in the aftermath of Katrina.It makes your every day problems seem trival.

Gas in Ohio 3.10 - 3.39 as of 9-3-05.

Average prices in my area are still stable at:

$2.94 for reg.
$3.04 for mid-grade
$3.14 for premium

Hopefully, the prices drop after the Labor Day weekend.

As far back as I can remember at least to when LBJ was in office gas has gone up and not down. The highest increases were during the Clinton, Bush I and Bush II administrations. We can all thank Jimmy Carter because he's the one who had the oil-industry de-regulated. I say let history decide and be the judge.

It is GREED. They don't call it "Black Gold" for nothing. Plus it doesn't help driving a SUV that only gets 10 mpg. There are more SUVs and pick up trucks on the road today than cars.

BTW - El Paso, Texas is taking in at least 750 of the Katrina refugees and preparing for up to 5,000.


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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

Ya Zydeco, its good stuff.
Bush Drive? you can bet hes not worried about fuel efficiency.
I see he took that Jumbo Jet out for a spin in the middle of a fuel*crisis.*
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Bush owns a couple full sized (FULL SIZED) ford f-series trucks.

Iowa gas is 2.89 for 89, 2.99 for 85.

I was reading around, from what i understand, any engine can run on straight 150-180 proof alcohol, the only problem is the fuel injection systems can't detect the fuel being put in and can't time air/fuel mixtures. The newer vehicle with E85 compatiblity have chips to detect fuel and time mixtures accordingly. Anyone know if i'm getting this right? If so, whats keeping me from making an alcohol still in my backyard?

i think its still against the law to hav a stil in your yard. If the metering was the case, you could mix the alcohol with gasoline. I hav ran motorcycles and gokarts with alkihol and grain alcohol like Everclear(190proof) it gives it alot of pep and vigar! also gets the motor realy hot, but a 50/50 mix still gives P & V. I'm sure its not good on the motor none the less, but it sure is fun.LOL!

I'd like to put sugar in Bush's gastank. Lmao!

One major problem is that a new refinery hasn't been built in like 20 years.

I hate to make this a political discussion but IMO the left likes it both ways. They want nothing to do with building those dirty refineries until the gas prices go up and then it's the administration's fault for not doing anything and its becuase his buddies want to make money.

The money in the oil/gas supply chain to my knowdlege is in the drilling stage, not the refining or seling. The drillers are the people who take the crude out of the ground, put it on market and receive the case subsequent to the crude removal.

Halliburton has been doing work for several decades with the US government and has been a reputable contractor. It's not like they were some small 1980's upstart that received huge contracts becuase Cheney worked there. I'm sure they would be a #1 choice if Cheney wasn't a former executive.

I need to research this more but I th ink that the US had a protectionist attitude and restricted the importation of gasoline from foreign sources. Beucase I remember reading that the US would stop restricting the shipment of something regarding petroleum and gasoline, Spain released gasoline from reserves to send over here and the prices subsequently dropped on the NYMEX.

Here is a congressional hearing about how gas prices are set. It's rather lenghty though but you can usually get a general idea if you skip past the correct Senator's speeches.

http://www.gpo.gov/congress/senate/senate12sh107.html

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$349.9 here in tennessee

$349.9 here in tennessee

hey Rex Orr, you mean 3.499 in TN.?.

Fuel around where i live last week was $3.55-3.80. This past Friday through today was only $2.98 gal. I think they are afraid they'll get fined for price gougiing. But whether its $2.98 or $3.98 , its still about $2-3 dollars to damn much! XI

Interesting e85. 85% ethanol. What does this stuff cost per gallon?

I found a list of GM vehicles that can run e85.

http://www.e85fuel.com/information/general_motors.php

Does it look promising or what? :dunno:





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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

The ethanol eats up rubber O-rings on the fuel injectors/system, and an ethanol leak could be fatal.

I checked that url out. The cars that use E85 would probley be carborated or throtle body injected carbs. I'm sure its cleaner burning than gasoline. probley alot cheaper too.

But the problem is that ethanol is alcohol and burns faster.

I know of students at my University who in a chemistry class calcuated the use of ethanol over regular gasoline and foudn that gasoline burned slower and in the end cost less.

But the problem is that ethanol is alcohol and burns faster.

I know of students at my University who in a chemistry class calcuated the use of ethanol over regular gasoline and foudn that gasoline burned slower and in the end cost less.

Interesting point. What is e85 running per gallon versus reg. unleaded? I heard only around 25 cents less per gallon. Doesn't sound like a ground breaking solution. :dunno:





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1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

wow this thread keeps going on and on.

this thread is the energizer fuel bunny, it keeps going and going and going.... BTW, gas has leveled off here in Flint Mi and has actually dropped from a high of $3.50 to $2.89 as of today, 9-6-05

My sisiter lives in N. Alabama and said gas was $2.47 for regular. The price has droped over the weekend in Indy. Been $2.99 for reg. which is still about 2$ to much.

this thread is the energizer fuel bunny, it keeps going and going and going.... BTW, gas has leveled off here in Flint Mi and has actually dropped from a high of $3.50 to $2.89 as of today, 9-6-05

And on and on and on and on...........lol.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/bunny.jpg

No change in prices here. Stable but no decrease as of yet. :dunno:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.

Interesting point. What is e85 running per gallon versus reg. unleaded? I heard only around 25 cents less per gallon. Doesn't sound like a ground breaking solution. :dunno:





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.


When prices spiked to $3.19-.29 range, someone in my Management class during a discussion about prices boasted she could get E-85 in Iowa for $2.85/gallon. They are typically $.10 cheaper/gal than NE because of taxes, so that's roughly $.25/gallon savings.

There was an article in our "newspaper" (Omaha World-Herald is horrible) about how they want to require 10% ethanol in all blended gasoline.

Here are the two problem I envision:

1) Another blend to make refiners put out, contributing to one aspect of the high gas prices

2) This sounds like a big, fat subsidy to me.

with premium and it was $2.89 per gallon

I paid $3.39 for premium last week. Yesterday, I got "lucky" and found Sunoco ultra on sale for $3.18

Prices are starting to drop slowly but surely. Funny how the prices come down in penny increments.

$2.91 - reg.
$3.01 - mid.
$3.19 - prem.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/halliburton.jpg





http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 PCM, SLP Headers,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, 2.5 DP/Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, ZZP Stage 1 72mm TB,
TB spacer, MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 103,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials
1/4 ET: 13.210 sec. @ 104.490 mph
0 - 60 ft: 1.945 sec.