Lucas Heavy Duty Oil stabilizer

Hi,

I read the article regarding the Lucas Heavy Duty Oil stabilizer in BITOG. This article explaines that it will help to distribute the oil thorougly on all parts of the engine. Please let me know your ideas whether we can use this additive along with the Engine oil.

I appreciate your feedback.

Thank You

C

I used it in both my 87 and 92 4-cyl Camrys and I liked it but I haven't used it in my 03. I'm kinda afraid to because of the closer tolerances of the newer engines. Where one could run 10w-40 or even 20w-50, now they recommend 5w-30 all the way through 100 degrees F. I was going to say to keep a quart on hand for a top up but none of my Camrys ever required any additional oil between changes. God bless Toyota. :smile:

Avoid Lucas like the plague.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm


Oils don't need additives... They've got all they need.
I still use some seafoam every other oil change (7,500-10,000 mile/10 month intervals) to keep the insides clean.

Avoid Lucas like the plague.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm


Oils don't need additives... They've got all they need.
I still use some seafoam every other oil change (7,500-10,000 mile/10 month intervals) to keep the insides clean.

[QUOTE=Toysrme]Avoid Lucas like the plague. WOW :screwy: :chair:

I use the Lucas automatic transmission conditioner for my 1989 Camry and my girlfriends 1988 Tercel. I put it in the differential as well as the auto. trannsmission since the differential requires auto. tranny fluid. it has an additive which conditions the gaskets and seals. I can feel a big difference in the way our cars drive/shift. I never tried the Lucas oil additive so I won't comment about that. :2cents: :feedback:

JOET/CAMRY

Considering the foaming induced by that additive, you better reconsider. Foaming will most likely result in a difference in the way the transmission feels. That set-up the tester showed had alot in common with the gears in your transmission/differential.

That additive probably contains a detergent that foams. You can try adding a small amount of a silicone-based anti-foam, but you'd only be guessing.

JOET/CAMRY when 9,000 oil industry experts, and enthusiats agree the stuff is crap, then one of them proves without a shadow of a doubt it's crap.


I think you're the one that should be smacked with a chair.


Since, apparantly you wouldn't surf there to see why lucas sucks, I'll bring it here for you.




Props to bobs for the work.

As many know, where air is present, oil isn't so due to lack of lubrication where the air is, heat will rise..

Quality gear oil without lucas

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/15wnolucas.jpg


With lucas

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/addlucas15w2.jpg

Notice how the color of the right side has turned extremely light? That's because of the higher amount of air trapped in the gear oil. Again, this is the full synth. Why'd this happen?, Ladies and gent's, oil has antifoamant additives to reduce air bubbles. In this case, there was not enough Antifoamants to keep the oil from trapping air with Lucas added to it.

Also notice how the oil on the right has settled down to the bottom leaving very little on the gears. This is the PRIME REASON for not adding in additives into a already good designed oil/ lubricant. Myself, didn't see this coming. It makes perfect sense what happened and would have thought it would help this oil to lubricate at startups but instead, it created more problems than it solved.





Quality motor oil without

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/15wnolucas.jpg



Quality motor oil with

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/addlucas15w2.jpg

WOW!, It even makes a good motor oil foam up! ... Well, there you go folks, again, the color shows where air has been entrapped into the oil, therefore, creating a problem.




Now if you would like discuss why lucas doesn't suck, you can go to the thread Bob started about it here (http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000207), where people far more knowledgeable about lubricants than any of us will proceed to point & laff at you. They castrate :newbie:'s.

Toysrme, actually, I did go to the link you provided before I put in my last post http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm and did read the article. they tested out the Lucas oil additive used with engine oils and with gear oil. I don't believe he mentioned anything about transmission additives.


I am using Lucas transmission additive with my car. if you can provide infomation/Link/article how the Lucas transmission additive is bad for my transmission please do. I would love to read it. :smile:

I was just having fun with the icons :chair: in my earlier post. nothing personal. thats what the icons are there for.

Regards, JOET/CAMRY

I think the gear example used is a better imitation of a transmission than a engine.

I think the gear example used is a better imitation of a transmission than a engine.

Thats true Brian but in those tests they were using Lucas oil additive not Lucas transmission additive/conditioner.

Just becase their oil additive doesn't work well as an additive(according to one persons tests) doesn't mean their transmission additive is no darn good and will cause the same problems/condition. :

JOET/CAMRY :feedback:

The oil companies spend extreme amounts of money to provide the most effecient product available. New formulas are very effective in doing what they were designed to do. I would question spending money for a questionable (at best) product, especilly when doubt from knowledgeable sources is cast upon the company.

Thats true Brian but in those tests they were using Lucas oil additive not Lucas transmission additive/conditioner.

Just becase their oil additive doesn't work well as an additive(according to one persons tests) doesn't mean their transmission additive is no darn good and will cause the same problems/condition. :

JOET/CAMRY :feedback:

I understood that issue from the beginning. All I'm saying is "why take a chance?" There is no positive evidence that it helps. You are gambling with expensive equipment.

If you want to verify the absence of a problem (at least a possible verification), drive the car on the expressway for a while and immediately drain (or unfasten the transmission cooler hose and pump a little out by idling the engine) a small amount of the transmission fluid into a can and look at it in a glass container in which you can see the color of the fluid clearly. If the fluid is red, then maybe there's no problem. If the additive entrains air, it will be pink or light red and you will not be able to see through it. It will be milky.

I understood that issue from the beginning. All I'm saying is "why take a chance?" There is no positive evidence that it helps. You are gambling with expensive equipment.

If you want to verify the absence of a problem (at least a possible verification), drive the car on the expressway for a while and immediately drain (or unfasten the transmission cooler hose and pump a little out by idling the engine) a small amount of the transmission fluid into a can and look at it in a glass container in which you can see the color of the fluid clearly. If the fluid is red, then maybe there's no problem. If the additive entrains air, it will be pink or light red and you will not be able to see through it. It will be milky.

Thanks for the advice, I'll do that. my camry is a 1989 W/ 175,000 miles; and I figured a 16 year old transmission could benifit from a transmission additive/conditioner. I feel the gaskets and seals are/getting pretty dried out and the additive could help rejuvinate them.(to a certian extent). :confused:

JOET/CAMRY

I am a perpetual sceptic. If someone is going to make money by me following their advice (like an additive manufacturer saying "use my product because it swells old seals, makes your engine run forever, the radiator will spit out quarters, etc" then I look at their advice and get another unbiased opinion from a knowlegable or experienced source. Maybe two.

In general, I don't put any weight whatsoever on advice given me by a company or individual who stands to make money by my following their advice. If anything, if it is personal advice, I hold it against them that they advised me with such an obvious conflict of interest staring them in the face.