help!-ef9 lighting problem

I recently purchased a jdm front end for my 91 si. Im having trouble with the wires, since the jdm headlights only used one headlight bulb instead of 2. The blue indicator for the high beams stays on at all the time. I was dissapointed at the brightness of the headlights, my flashlight throws more light that my headlights, but when I switch to the high beams they look more like the reagulars. I dont know if im doing something wrong. Also how do I adjust the headlights since they dont have that screw like the old ones did. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
You can email me at ossirisus@hotmail.com

I have no idea about the wiring, but check you have the correct bulbs. The optics in the lights suit only one type of bulb and while it is a H4, you can not cut down the usual H4s to suit because of the sheilding at the front and the aligning tabs. That's why they won't cast the beam properly. Unfortunately for me, you can't buy the replacement bulbs over here. There was a site that sold HID versions for about 100bucks US as I recollect though.

I'm fairly sure the US ones have two seperate bulbs, and when you are on high beam bothe the Low and High bulbs are 'on' whereas with the JDM ones only one part of the bulb goes at a time, maybe you need to re-do some wiring.
The JDM lights are not as good as the glass ones you have originally, but you can get brighter bulbs.
The 'style' is not an ordianry H4, It is called either 'H4h' or '702K', (H4h and 702K are both the same thing).
Here is a link to what you can buy: http://shop.store.yahoo.com/racinglab/raystreetwhi.html

Setanta: You should be able to get them in Australia, I bought some Hella ones a while back for NZ$36 each
NZ and Australia should have the same parts catalogues.
Hella part # 'XG1265/55'
Narva part # '48822'

HTH

Edited... that is the catalogue right, not the particular bulb?

I'll take a photo of mine and post it up to see if it matche what you have.

Thanks

Ok, found a pic of them. The one on the right is exactly the same as the Aussie bulbs - the one on the left is what I need - and I couldn't find them. Still, I'll give your codes for them a go :)

http://home.iprimus.com.au/cuchulainn/lights.jpg

Fine, my FTP isn't working... try again:

Setanta:
http://www.narva.com.au/Globes11.html

the ones right down the bottom.. 702K 65/55W

that is what I have and it should be exactly what you have as well.:)

Arrrrgggg,,, stoopid upload.

Ignore the box, bulb on the left is the SiR one :D

http://www.jdmhondaparts.com/images/Raybrigs_1.jpg

Those part#'s I gave you are for the standard ones, (not extra bright ones)

Its hard enough as it is to get normal ones.

I reccommend that you get the Hella ones (the ones that I have) as when I got them out of the pack I saw they were actually made by 'Stanley' the same as OEM, NZ$36 isn't too bad, considering Repco wanted $90 each for the 'Narva' ones..

Hella is pretty commona in Australia..? right?

XG1265/55 is your best bet.. good luck finding them.

I have seen all sorts of butch attempts of people trying to get standard H4's in there, but they make a big mess, and the optics are totally screwed up.. the H4h / 702K's are much longer than an H4..

just found a link..
H4 on the left H4h/702K on the right

http://www.cr-x.org/home/jdmparts/h4vsjdm.jpg

Hey Setanta -

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/May/2002588133072598707056.jpg

Sorry dude - couldn't resist! :D

Originally posted by EF6_CR-X
Setanta:
http://www.narva.com.au/Globes11.html

the ones right down the bottom.. 702K 65/55W

that is what I have and it should be exactly what you have as well.:)

That's the one.. cool, will see if I can find it at repco :)

http://www.narva.com.au/Images/Globes/Globes-pics/PremiumHal.Globes/Fig-13.jpg

Thanks mate :)

hehe..

you beat me to it:D

yep thats the shape..

you should easily be able to get them:)

I replaced mine as they were too dim, made a huge difference.

Originally posted by sastanley
Hey Setanta -

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/May/2002588133072598707056.jpg

Sorry dude - couldn't resist! :D

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Better watch out or I'll post my f*ckoffcat.jpg. Usually I reserve that for the Asia Pacific forums :D

I couldn't upload the file for some reason... bloody FTP was rooted :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Setanta
Edited... that is the catalogue right, not the particular bulb?

I'll take a photo of mine and post it up to see if it matche what you have.

Thanks

The part #'s are for the bulbs.

Repco here in NZ only have 'Narva', and like everything else at Repco its much more expensive than everywhere else..
Go for the Hella ones. XG1265/55
Let me know what they cost you over there..
Cheers:)

Ok, I had bought some Polarg lightbulbs, so they are not old. Whish ones should I bought then. Also how do you adjust the headlighs. The beams are not even close to each other??

Aye is there any real hid conversion kit for the jdm ef9 headlights??

Thanks EF6_CR-X. I went to repco and got the Narva version (the Hella's wern't listed on their 'puter). Originally the price was Au$90 (F*CK). Dunno why they were so expensive, but the guy on the counter knocked it down to 50 bucks (trade price maybe?).

Anyway, it works beautifully, except that the rubber shroud is the only thing holding the bulb in at the moment as the screw is missing from the lacking mechanism on the lights.

Thanks for that

Cheers

Originally posted by Setanta
Thanks EF6_CR-X. I went to repco and got the Narva version (the Hella's wern't listed on their 'puter). Originally the price was Au$90 (F*CK). Dunno why they were so expensive, but the guy on the counter knocked it down to 50 bucks (trade price maybe?).

Anyway, it works beautifully, except that the rubber shroud is the only thing holding the bulb in at the moment as the screw is missing from the lacking mechanism on the lights.

Thanks for that

Cheers

No worries man.
Repco are pretty bad here too, that was the price they quoted me NZ$90, so I went in search of something cheaper, the Hella ones I got for $36, were actually made by Stanley.
Most auto sparkies were sellign them for $50, I went to a wholesale place so I guess thats why I got a good deal..

They do make a big difference aye!!

BTW are your lights lenses going yellow?
If they are, that is another major blocker of light. To fix that you need to remove the light units, get ~600grit wet&dry, and gradually work your way up to 1200.. followed by applying a clearcoat.
It does take a long time to do, but the results are very rewarding:D

Originally posted by ossirisus_ef9
Ok, I had bought some Polarg lightbulbs, so they are not old. Whish ones should I bought then. Also how do you adjust the headlighs. The beams are not even close to each other??

OK dude.. sorry for going a bit off track.
if the bulbs you bought, fit the light properly then you have done it properly.
As for adjusting, the mounting points where you mount the light to the chassis has quite a bit of adustment in it (left - right) there is another small adjuster to fine tune it. As for height there is only one adjuster.
here is the proceedure for adjusting your lights for US requirements.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/33981812.jpg

1. Find yourself a blank wall that you can park 25ft away from (ensure you have level ground)
2. With the car a few inches from the wall, Position masking tape on the wall in reference to the centre of the vehicle and the centerline of each headlight
3. Position horizontal tape in reference to the centerline of each headlight (now you have two big + signs and one vertical line between them)
4. Now reverse your car STRIAGHT 25ft.
5. With the lights on low beam, aim the high intensity light point two inches below the horizontal line, and two inches to the right of the vertical line
6. With the lights on high beam, the high intensity spot should be on the vertical line, but just below the horizontal line.

Now #6 is where you will be having problems, so you will need to be creative and aim for something between proceedure 5 & 6.
The Japanese drive on the left hand side of the road, so when their lights are on 'low' they point down and to the left, and when on high they point straight ahead, you CANNOT adjust that, as it is part of the beam pattern/reflector allignment in the light (so in a sense you have illegal lights), so adfjust it so that it best suits your needs without blinding other motorists.

Also if the plastic lenses are yellowed you could do the proceedure I told Setanta about in my last post.

hopefully you get it going well.

Chris

Yeah - the polycarbonate lights do discolour but I just hit them with plastic cutting compound and all is good :)

The alignment info is good, going to look at checking mine on the weekend. Where do you get your info from on the JDM designs?

Cheers

Originally posted by Setanta
Yeah - the polycarbonate lights do discolour but I just hit them with plastic cutting compound and all is good :)

The alignment info is good, going to look at checking mine on the weekend. Where do you get your info from on the JDM designs?

Cheers

Setanta: Just remember the alignment for lights on RHD vehicles is the oposite to the LHD (US) type..
So you'll want to be 2 inches to the left of the vertical line. (i'm sure you already figured that one out anyway)

What JDM info were you refering to? you mean about how the headlight is aimed for a RHD vehicle etc?

BTW you might find this useful for your EF9, if you don't have it already
www.hondacrx.co.uk (http://www.acute.f9.co.uk/crx/downloads/downloads.htm)
There you can download the factory workshop manual in PDF format for EDM CR-X and also the Vtec supplement. (most things will be the same as your civic)

Chris

Hey, thanks for the information, I will problably do it today. Now i just have to get them wired properly. But thanks again.

For H4H bulbs check out http://www.intuitivesolutions.ca

you mustve wired your headlights wrong if your highbeams indicator light stays on. Mine doesnt. you probably mixed up the low/hig beam wires when wiring it.