Why not to be cheap lol :)

Well I was driving home from school which is about 20 miles away from where I live, and while on the highway I pull up to a gen 2 gs with a giant fiberglass spoiler full body kit and some sort of rims( I wasnt paying attention) anyway i had my cruise set at about 75 and i was passing him and all of the sudden he gets on it and takes off, well i wasnt going to just let a gs walk all over me so i follow and blow by him and then slow back down to the speed limit and all of the sudden he blows by me again or as i call it the loser fly by so i get on it again and catch right up to him and all of the sudden there was a loud pop from under my hood and instantly i though of the worst, blown something so many things rushed into my head and then my car started to idle at abour 100rpm and the oil light came on and everything locked up so i pulled over and looked under the hood because i though my uicp popped off but i looked and it was all fine so as i was pondering what the problem may be i started to examine the couplers on the pipe and i noticed the one on the tb elbow looked a little funny and i looked closer and there was a hole that blew threw it about the size of a quarter and that was causing all of my problems lol. let me back up a little. when i bout my car the uicp had all rubber 2 year old couplers that were all weak and flexable so one got a hole in it and i got ahold of a silicone one and stuck it on there and a few days ago another one started to pop off so i got another rubber one from like ace hardware thinking it would be good since its used on water pipesso long story short it was the one from ace that got a hold blown in it in 2 days at 9psi in my car so I just ordered a set of 5 silicone couplers and spent the money for quality. moral of the story, dont be cheap spend the money the first time so you dont have to replace even more things later

One question....


Are you a valley girl? :jump3:

Like totally... LOL. Use some periods.

So, it was a quick fix, right? Car was still drivable?

it was pretty funny because this happened about 10 or so miles away from town, so i was in the middle of nowhere on the side of the road. really there wasnt anything I could do about the hole and becuase of it i was running extremely rich and topped out at 45. Also i almost caused an accident with a big rig getting in the other lane to avoid a 45mph talon and he cut off an suv it was probably pretty scary for the suv. anyway i limped home and i had an extra coupler to get me around untill my silicone ones come in. so no more racing for me ofr a while. but the important thing is that i beat the riced out clipse right?

but the important thing is that i beat the riced out clipse right?

My thoughts exactly. :smokin:

can someone tell me the difference between ricing eclipses or talons, to upgrading non turbo cars?

can someone tell me the difference between ricing eclipses or talons, to upgrading non turbo cars?


If you watch fast and the furious and try to make your car look like that, you might be a ricer.

if you think and eight foot wing looks good on an eclipse you might be a ricer.


if your vinyls cost more than your car, you might be a ricer.

but that didn't awsner the question, aren't ricers trying to make their car look fast? aren't non turbo people trying to make the car SEEM faster? that reminded me of "you might be a redneck" =)

can someone tell me the difference between ricing eclipses or talons, to upgrading non turbo cars?
This eclipse was a mexi car and had old english something in the rear window probably a last name and mitsubishi in the front window and about a 2.5 foot wing with a blitz body kit and probably 16s with stock suspension with cut springs and camber out the ass and judging by the shifting im pretty sure it was an auto but im not positive

haha related thing happened to me. when I was putting on my front mount I didn't have any pressure tested good for intercooler pipes type couplers so I just went to home depot and purchased some water-pipe couplers and a couple miles away from home they all exploded. So now(even though I bought psi tested couplers) I carry 2-3 extra in the car with me in case one pops :loser: lol

People with N/T cars trying to make them faster is not being a ricer!!! I don't get it, turbos don't make a break a person as a ricer. I've seen massive ricers that have turbos. This one dide I worked with had a 02 civic with a wing that, I swear to god, was taller than the roof of the car. The rims were ugly as hell and it was an auto... but it had a turbo... so he's not a ricer? I don't get it.

I put all the work into my car because I don't need a turbo right now. I don't want a turbo right now. I'd probably kill myself. Im happy with my N/T and the work I'm doing on it. It's not a ricer car bc its N/T.

david-b.....wern't you going to the dyno last week, or am I thinking of someone else?

mmmm I think the point is, look how much money you have spent on a non turbo.... im comparing the waste in money, not performence. if you buy a turbo don't upgrade it... you wont kill yoruself... they're pretty quick stock. tell me how your gauge pods and gauges(always thought those were for BOOST, Oil pressure, and Coolant Temp) along with your under glow and interior glow, your dvd player; to put everything into context, i have a 97 dodge intrepid, and i had interior glow.... and i was bored, i wanted other rice cars to race me 2.5 ton tank; and i I am stiill confused about your header,cat back, and your pulley!??! this sounds like rice, without the wing.... which i think you have lol. but not huge like you describe, this isn't bashing my friend, im trying to figure out what seperates you and eclipse dude guy from rice. I know this will be taking out of context, and you nerdatrons will pick apart grammer and spelling mistakes. Oh, one last thing, i didn't say it wasn't rice to have non turbo cars, it was whats the difference for people who modify their N/T cars?

Who in the hell gets to decide what is rice? I swear to god that word is thrown out more often nowadays than is entitled. Just because you mod your car does not make you a ricer, and just because you mod your N/T to be faster than stock is in no way rice.

Rice is all based on appearance. It dosn't matter what is under the hood, it's what they did to what you can see. If they painted their car pink, layed on some vinyls and decals that said "turbo" or whatever, put on carbon fiber altezza lights, 5 in. fart can, added a massive wing right after taking the back seat out for "weight reduction", and drive it like they have 500 hp to the wheels, that is what I consider rice. If they put on an intake and exhaust, maybe some nice wheels and subtle appearance mods, and drive it like a normal car unless at the track, how is that rice? Let it go.

i was just asking the definition you know what i mean? like you said its pass'd around like EZ1286 at a gay swinger party =O

Who in the hell gets to decide what is rice? I swear to god that word is thrown out more often nowadays than is entitled. Just because you mod your car does not make you a ricer, and just because you mod your N/T to be faster than stock is in no way rice.

Rice is all based on appearance. It dosn't matter what is under the hood, it's what they did to what you can see. If they painted their car pink, layed on some vinyls and decals that said "turbo" or whatever, put on carbon fiber altezza lights, 5 in. fart can, added a massive wing right after taking the back seat out for "weight reduction", and drive it like they have 500 hp to the wheels, that is what I consider rice. If they put on an intake and exhaust, maybe some nice wheels and subtle appearance mods, and drive it like a normal car unless at the track, how is that rice? Let it go.
I would have to agree with you, as far as the eclipse i "raced" that fits into your discription except it has a stock exhaust but other than that exactly what you said. btw there is a 97ish civic coupe at my school with a d16 or whatever 1.6 sohc v-tec turbo with a front mount and i guess it has 280whp and 200wtq but the real kicker is it has like a carbon fiber hood inlay where only the middle of the hood is cf and the outter edges are sheet metal?? and it has a "cf" trunk, at least i thought it was untill i looked closer and relized it was a cf vinal overlay and it has recaro racing seats with 4 point harness in the drivers side and "powered by civic" pads on the belts among other things

all rubber 2 year old couplers that were all weak and flexable so one got a hole in it and i got ahold of a silicone one and stuck it on there and a few days ago another one started to pop off so i got another rubber one from like ace hardware thinking it would be good since its used on water pipesso long story short it was the one from ace that got a hold blown in it in 2 days at 9psi in my car so I just ordered a set of 5 silicone couplers and spent the money for quality. moral of the story, dont be cheap spend the money the first time so you dont have to replace even more things later

Same thing happened to me yesterday. Here I thought I found a great buy. Thats what I get for buy something in the plumbing aisle, next to the TOILETS, for my car!

Where did you get your new silicone ones? I found this site www.StylinMotors.com (http://www.stylinmotors.com) and was wondering if you or anyone else had used them before. Their prices seem good atleast.

I think you all have the wrong idea. I don't think myself as rice at all. My stupid ass went out when I was younger, and bought a n/t. Im not gonna lie, the car is slow as shit. I dont feel like going out and putting 4 grand into a turbo kit, and then having my 85k engine go out on me. Therefore, I modified the looks of my car. How the fuck does that make me a ricer? I will most likely not race at all on the streets, and very little if ever on a track, so why go and make my car super fast... so where does that make me a ricer? Because I modded my exterior? Whooptie fucking do.

EDIT: What the fuck ever happened to "to each his own"

Stop hating on show no go.

:iagree:

Same thing happened to me yesterday. Here I thought I found a great buy. Thats what I get for buy something in the plumbing aisle, next to the TOILETS, for my car!

Where did you get your new silicone ones? I found this site www.StylinMotors.com (http://www.stylinmotors.com) and was wondering if you or anyone else had used them before. Their prices seem good atleast.
i ordered mine off of ebay, they are precut but come with t-bolt clamps and are the real thing

I think you all have the wrong idea. I don't think myself as rice at all. My stupid ass went out when I was younger, and bought a n/t. Im not gonna lie, the car is slow as shit. I dont feel like going out and putting 4 grand into a turbo kit, and then having my 85k engine go out on me. Therefore, I modified the looks of my car. How the fuck does that make me a ricer? I will most likely not race at all on the streets, and very little if ever on a track, so why go and make my car super fast... so where does that make me a ricer? Because I modded my exterior? Whooptie fucking do.

EDIT: What the fuck ever happened to "to each his own"

Stop hating on show no go.

a-fucking-men to that.

yeah, that car in my avatar is an rs..no power windows..no power locks..NO TURBO, yeah that's right, i said it, NO TURBO, and it's automatic. so am i rice just because i choose to mod the exterior (and complete interior)? you sure as hell better say no. i preferred for my first car at the age of 15 to not get a turbo and just make the car look nice. i still have that car now at the age of 19 and still love it just as much and i am glad that i didn't buy a turbo car my first time. i learned alot from that car that i probably wouldn't have from a turbo. as i got older i started to mod the engine more and more (even though it's a n/t, i modded the engine, why? because i wanted to). not big big mods, but enough to get me a little more power. i didn't try to make it a rocketship or make it super fast, i've never been to the track or tried to race it in town, i modded it because i wanted a little more power for my own pleasure. but i originally bought the car because i WANTED to mod the outside to make it LOOK NICE, not to make it LOOK FAST. even now, after purchasing both a 97 gst and a 95 tsi awd, i'm STILL glad i own my rs, it's a point of pride for me. look guys, i still like my rs after owning TWO turbo cars.

there are people out there who mod their cars to go fast, and there are people who mod their car to look nice. others mod their car to LOOK fast. those people are ricers.

and just for the record, those graphics aren't vinyl, they were painted on when the rest of the car was painted. so whoever said "your rice if your decals cost more than your car", i don't want to hear anything from you about my graphics.

Therefore, I modified the looks of my car.

I don't see a problem with what you did to your car and wouldn't call it rice. I'm sure you don't go around doing ricer fly-bys to every Lotus you see on the street :grinyes: . Also, I don't see one of those shopping cart wings on the back, or a fake BOV shoved in the tailpipe. I was just assume that you wern't concerned with speed and just wanted a car that looked nice and different than the average stock looking Eclipse.

But that's just my opinion.

Absolutely right. And actually, I kinda like the small wing. Its more sleek looking, and in my opinion, if it was the turbo wing, it would make the car look awkward, having emphasis in both the front, and back of the car. Amen to the little wing. (I thought about taking it off, but dont have the money to patch up the holes...)

The term ricer really needs to be more widely known, by that i mean the true meaning. I think it was said perfect in "some people mod their cars to look good, some mod to go fast, but modding to look fast is a ricer" Said and true. I hate seeing stock cavaliers with 2 foot wings. Some people need to grow up.

i ordered mine off of ebay, they are precut but come with t-bolt clamps and are the real thing

Where at ebay?

How many ply are they? How was price comapared to StylinMotors (http://www.StylinMotors.com) ?

if I could I would have a sharp ass looking gsx with trick shit everywhere. But I don't have that kind of cash, so I have to settle for a stock looking GSX with some engine mods.

Some people want show before go. I like it Go before show. Thats the wonderfull thing about the auto industry. To each their own. Its the kids that think a 400 CF wing will decrease their 1/4 times by a half second that have made the name RICE!

if it is slow and shitty, dont drive like its a race car.... and for the love of god... don't drive your girlfriends car and try to race a fast car.... there is a very thin line between making the car look nice, and thinking your Paul walker. About the stickers and what not.... is it ricey to put NOS stickers on it? when your car is a Celica? if its not im selling my car and hanging my self

if it is slow and shitty, dont drive like its a race car.... and for the love of god... don't drive your girlfriends car and try to race a fast car.... there is a very thin line between making the car look nice, and thinking your Paul walker. About the stickers and what not.... is it ricey to put NOS stickers on it? when your car is a Celica? if its not im selling my car and hanging my self


Why sell it if gonna hang yourself, or are you gonna use the cash for stuffing in your coffin. :grinno: :evillol: :grinno: :evillol: :screwy:

Where at ebay?

How many ply are they? How was price comapared to StylinMotors (http://www.StylinMotors.com) ?
Ebay motors, i just searched for silicone couplers and i got five for like $30 shipped and i think they are 3 or 4 ply but dont quote me

if it is slow and shitty, dont drive like its a race car.... and for the love of god... don't drive your girlfriends car and try to race a fast car.... there is a very thin line between making the car look nice, and thinking your Paul walker. About the stickers and what not.... is it ricey to put NOS stickers on it? when your car is a Celica? if its not im selling my car and hanging my self

No there is a big line between making your car look nice, and thinkin you are Paul Walker. And I dont think that there is any thing wrong with putting NOS stickers on your celica ONLY if u have nos.
And about the non turbo cars being ricers. I test drove a gs-t spyder, a gs-t hardtop, and a GS spyder, and guess which one i bought. Thats right, the GS spyder and i love the car. I have made a few mods to the 4G64 engine and i plan on bolting on lots more parts except for a turbo. No I dont think my car is fast but it is fun as hell to drive. And for your information....not all N/A cars are slow.

Ricer is just thrown around too much. I know it means different things to different people, but I am beginning to HATE this fucking word. I mean, not even when its about me. I just see some cars on laughatrice.com or whatever, that arent rice at all. They just have a simple kit on, sometimes i see stock shit!

DEFINITION OF RICE:

Rice is not a car, its an attitude! The quality of the look of a car is an opinion, what you may not like someone else may like. A car with stickers and a huge wing isn't rice unless the driver talks like his car is the shit and lies or exaggerates. You may not like the way it looks but maybe the driver does; he's the one that drives it... not you. If he thinks the big wing helps performance... thats not rice either... thats ignorance. I'll give you an example of rice and non-rice:

If you claim any car made in Japan and has been modified as rice or just any car modified in a similar fashion as rice...then these are examples of the difference between GOOD RICE AND BAD RICE!

RICE (bad rice):
Joe owns a Civic DX... he (his parents) bought it because of the Fast and the Furious and he couldn't afford (parents wouldnt pay) for a Supra. He buys an APC (A Piece of Crap) intake from Kragen and a muffler with a 5" exhaust tip (no catback). Joe thinks no more about his engine... believing that its fast, because he doesn't know the truth. He then spends $2000 dollars of his parents money to buy a black widow body kit. So far he's not rice. Then he gets rims, a HUGE wing, exterior graphics, and neons. (still not rice, may be ugly to you, or stupid to you, but still not rice) then he takes his Civic down to the local street racing gathering place... and starts talking shit about how fast his car is. NOW HE IS RICE!!!! The key to this is the shit talking not what he did to his car. You can also buy all the correct expensive good parts and still not put forced induction on, and still be a ricer if you talk shit.

MORE RICE (bad rice)
Chris buys a Honda Civic because he thought how cool Joe is in his Civic. He got the DX model because he thought. "All Civics are alike." He doesn't have much money and is quite lazy. He wants to lower hsi car but doesn't want to pay for coilovers...so he lowers it by cutting the springs... which he does by himself and which he does it wrong. He adds no camber kit and rides on the sides of his tires. Chris clears out his tail lights himself and does a shitty job. Chris decides to tacket the engine... so he buys a bunch of cheap APC stuff and puts them in wrong too. He then gets some cheap imitation rims (or chrome hub caps from walwart). He puts spacers on and has the tires 3 inches out of the wheel well... He gets his car painted bright baby blue and paints his interior bright orange. Chris buys a huge aluminum spoiler and installs it. He then adds a crap load of decals depicting "NOS" "Greddy" "Mugen" etc. All stuff he doesn't have... He gets the 6 inch exhaust tip (nothing else, just the tip)... and puts on about 4 sets of fog lights... also he gets the front bumber from a body kit and nothing else. He then proceeds to bounce his way down the street to the local racing gathering place. He flips on his neons that are half broken from scraping the ground... he is missing on rim because he got a flat from too much camber and lies and says its for racing. Chris begans talking mad shit about how fast is car is.

Chris is RICE and has been rice from the very beginning... this is the worse kind of rice. Does a shit load of "mods" and does them all wrong... and also has the nerve to talk shit. The difference between Chris and Joe is that Joe did all his "mods" correctly and Chris didn't.


NOT RICE (good rice):
John buys (himself) a Civic SI because he's on a budget and wants a bit of a challenge (not because of the Fast & the Furious). He would have got a older 70's era car, but didn't want to deal with the maintenence, and gas prices. He wanted the ease of a newer car. He goes and gets an AEM CAI with a bypass valve (so no water gets in); he can't afford a turbo yet. He gets some 4-2-1 headers and a full catback system exhaust. He lowers his car with shocks and coilovers and adds a camber kit since he doesn't want to fuck up his tires. He gets rims and a system, because he wants to hear some good music while out cruising. He keeps his factory wing because any bigger and it would be stupid. He does some other cosmetic stuff to the inside. He adds some cam gears and a fuel rail and what not. He takes his Civic down to the street racing gathering place and watches the real fast cars race. He challenges a few stock cars and slightly modified cars to race for fun. He doesn't talk all this hype about how fast his car is, because he knows it isnt V8 worthy. He thinks is car is nice and he likes it a lot. John is not rice nor is his car. He still could have added graphics and stickers for parts he has but still wouldn't be a ricer. He takes his Civic home and is impatient about saving money and splurges on brakes and cosmetic stuff (body kit, nice subtle graphics, neons, etc)... all the while not talking shit. THIS IS NOT A RICER NOR IS HIS CAR!!!!

NOT RICE, (good rice)
Bobby, buys a Civic SI not because he can't afford a Supra, but for the challenge of making a small economy car fast. He starts to build up his engine. He thinks about doing a b18c1 engine swap but doesn't see the worth...the b16a2 is fine. So he gets some Headers, forge pistons, a stronger gasket, better Intake Manifold, etc. He buys a catback system exhaust to handle the extra flow from the T4 turbo he bought. He gets all that in with the intercooler. He gets some good rims and tires. Of course he lowers it correctly and puts in some big breaks for added stopping power. After he has finished all this he realizes that he only spent about 10K after buying the car. He takes it to the shop and gets it dynoed. 320 HP!!! hes surprised but disappointed so he goes and gets a 50 shot a nitrous oxide. He then takes his car down to the street racing gathering place and challenges cars left and right. Why? because he has to break it the new stuff in. He toasts a few "ricers" and even a V8 Mustang, but loses to WS6 Firebird. So the next week he takes his Civic to the track and runs a 12.9; 1/4 mile... feeling satisfied he starts working on the interior/exterior and other cosmetic (body kit, neons, etc) details... knowing that his true intent was not to build a dragster but to build fast, fun, entertaining, and nice looking car.

BOBBY IS NOT RICE!... why? because he has the car to back up his trash talking.

True "Rice" is a state of mind or an attitude. You can add a huge wing expensive body kit and NO engine mods and still not be rice. You become rice when you act and talk as if your car is the fastest shit in the world. When in reality you drive 1994 Honda Civic DX(106 HP) with no forced induction or any performance engine mods. With a bunch of fast looking parts.

I think this is a good defintion. I got it from cardomain

nice definition Scott. So true. Even if you did *ahem* steal it from cardomain. It points out good points in each case.

Haha, I know exactly what car page has that. Everyone shits on him too, all the domestics....

One things for sure, we all have our own taste and we all have our own opinions. Some people are happy and some are never happy. I remember when I bought a slow ass v6 Firebird. I put an intake and exhaust on it with a nice system. At the time I was happy with it, but as we change, so does our taste. Some will always have the taste for all show and no go, they will be happy with it. Others will not be happy until they are running faster than dragsters. Its all self based opinion in my opinion...

How did we go from buying cheap to rice?

I just found out that silicone hose manufactures are selling their defective stuff (items that did not pass their qualtity control) to e-bay sellers. Just wanted to pass it along. Beware