Gas prices :whine::cry: STFU >.<

I've just plain had it with ppl bitching about the price of gas. I turn on the news the other day and theres a woman filling up her ford explorer "It costs me $70 to fill up the tank"..."it only get s 9MPG". And that's anyones fault but your own why? dumb ass.

Then today at work one of my managers friends is in there bitching about gas prices when he pulls up with a big ass Chevy truck (V8, lifted, big tires,etc.). He procededs to tell my manager about how gas prices are some government conspiracy, and goes on about how gas is only 12 cents a gallon in Iraq, and how we should go and kill them all off and take thier gas so we can have it for that cheap (yeah and while we're at it we should anal rape thier children, and burn thier houses) stupid ass typical hillbilly additude.

The final blow was my manager going online and reading on yahoo about how because of the hurricane gas will jump from 50-75 cents more per gallon (ZOMG!!111!!, grow up). Yeah who cares about the people who's houses are going to be destroyed and who'll die in the storm, I'm more concerned that gas might cost $3.30 a gallon.

Main points:
1) If you drive a car to work and home that gets less then 30 MPG you lose all rights to complain about gas prices because you are the cause.
2) If you think gas prices are a government conspiracy stop watching the x-files
3) If your going to go broke because gas jumps 50 cents a gallon;
a) Get a better job and/or a smaller more economical car
b) Get a job closer to home
c) Kill yourself, that will solve the problem of not being able to afford gas and will make you stop buging the shit out of everyone with your whining.

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Why would the hurricane increase gas prices?


On a side note, its hard to find a good car that gets more than 30 mpg. So I think you are being a little unrealistic there. And yes, I hate SUVs.

Why would the hurricane increase gas prices?Because of the storm all oil rigs in the Gulf were closed down, thus leading to loss of production for the day or two.

TS out

If our government and all the environmental hippies weren't so retarded and have all our oil refineries in other countries we wouldn't be having this problem.

Only 4 words to solve the problem: We Need More Refineries

well 30 mpg is just a base number to shoot for, what I'm basically saying is too many people are out there driving suburbans and explores and big ass trucks back and forth to work, especially if it's just one person.
A small econobox with a manual trans, or if you have the money a hybrid, Insight, Civic, Prius etc.
Hell, my dad has a '05 civic lx manual and he constantly gets 36-38MPG on the highway back and forth to work.

Edit: there's a site (fueleconomy.gov I think is the site name) you can look up tons of cars by brand, mpg, annual fuel costs, etc. there are plenty of cars out there that get good mileage (many 30 or even 40+). And since gas isn't super expensive yet you can probably still find alot of these cars for sale really cheap.

Two words BIO-DIESEL! you can fucking grow it(with the exception of menthol as the cleaning agent, but if it's allready clean you don't need to clean it) Ok, we drive cars that use oil. So me personally get pissed when oil prices get this high, especially when this nation has no sort of mass transit systems besides massive highways. Maybe if the government did something to make us so not dependant upon our cars then we wouldn't be so pissed off, but considering where i live (miami) there is no way to get around unless you live downtown or feel like walking in 90+ weather. So, i'll stop bitching when someone gives me an alternative. Soon I shall be buying a deisel and making bio-diesel. At $.70 a gallon beats any mode of transport that I know of. Peace-

good luck finding enough land to grow the plants needed to produce bio desiel man. its not exactly an effecient way to get fuel.

I honestly think the oil companies are like Enron... but I will just deal with it. Hell, I used to be into nitro rc cars, I had to pay $25/gallon for the fuel.

I know that back in the 70s there was a rumor that someone made an extremely fuel efficient carbuerator(rumored to get 40+mpg, but I doubt it was THAT good), and the oil companies supposedly bought the patent and destroyed it. Not sure of this truth, but it's not hard to see that they don't want prices to go down and they don't want people conserving gas.

There is nothing wrong with X Files. I dont recall one about insane gas prices either. It was a good show IMO.

I dont get good gas milage in my truck but i dont bitch. I bought it.

1) If you drive a car to work and home that gets less then 30 MPG you lose all rights to complain about gas prices because you are the cause.

I drive a Cavalier...it averages around 27. Im not allowed to complain because I am the cause? Might want to do a little research.

3) If your going to go broke because gas jumps 50 cents a gallon;

I work 15 hours a week, at 9/hr. I also go to school full time. I ride the lightrail to school every day. If gas prices jump to $3.30/gl, I will be in the red very quickly. WTF is your point?

a) Get a better job and/or a smaller more economical car

Let me just quit my job, and go get a better one. If only it were that easy. And it doesnt get much smaller/more economical than a Cavalier. Even if I did have something bigger, what would I buy a new car with? IOU's? Not everyone can afford to run out and dump a pile of bank into a new car.

b) Get a job closer to home

I work 3 minutes from my house. But the lightrail station is about 20 minutes. And those arent the only 2 places I drive.

c) Kill yourself, that will solve the problem of not being able to afford gas and will make you stop buging the shit out of everyone with your whining.

Slowly reread what you wrote.


Need I say more?

I drive a Cavalier...it averages around 27. Im not allowed to complain because I am the cause? Might want to do a little research.

Let me just quit my job, and go get a better one. If only it were that easy. And it doesnt get much smaller/more economical than a Cavalier. Even if I did have something bigger, what would I buy a new car with? IOU's? Not everyone can afford to run out and dump a pile of bank into a new car.




It's a fact that GM doesn't give a rip about how many mpg their cars get. The new Cobalts get 32 mpg highway, while the Corolla gets 41. Go figure.

I hear ya Firebird. Americans have no right to bitch about fuel, you guys are paying shit all for your gas.

I am paying US$4.75 to the Gallon (NZ$1.49 per litre) for 91 RON fuel at the moment and if things keep up then I'll be paying $5 before the years end. Petrol here is so steep that I'm thinking about getting a loan and buying a Peugeot 406 HDi, mmmmm 50 mpg.

It's a fact that GM doesn't give a rip about how many mpg their cars get.

Then why do they boast about over 30 models that get over 30 mpg or more?

Then why do they boast about over 30 models that get over 30 mpg or more?
It's more like 13, not 30. Look at their 2006 lineup.

good luck finding enough land to grow the plants needed to produce bio desiel man. its not exactly an effecient way to get fuel.

And drilling for oil that is a NON-RENEWABLE resource is such an efficent way to produce fuel. Between all the McDonalds, Wendys, and Burger Kings across the world, there is more than enough vegtable oil being used to produce lots of fuel. Just think about any place you go that you can get fried food, that means they're using vegtable oil(for the most part) and that in turn can be used as fuel. And think about all the land being used for petrolum production. If all that land was put toward the cultivation of plants for vegtable oil, plus take a drive all over the fucking country! There is so much open space that we would have plenty of room to do this. Hybrid's are also a good idea, but try to get everyone in the world to do that, then what happens when the batteries need to be recycled? Lots of environmental problems. Hydrogen powered is also good, except that the amount of fuel needed to compress the gas into a usable form, creates almost as much carbon dioxide as driving a normal gasoline car. The gas ain't gonna last forever, thats a proven fact. And the world is at a point where it's just gonna get more and more expensive, so we can either do something about it or just complain, and keep buying different cars that get better and better milage. But just remember, it will run out. That is just as true of a fact that every single person is going to die. Might not run out for another 150 years but, it will. Peace-

If our government and all the environmental hippies weren't so retarded and have all our oil refineries in other countries we wouldn't be having this problem.

Only 4 words to solve the problem: We Need More Refineries

And just how long will this short term solution "fix" our long term problem of increasing demand and declining supply? It just like people calling for the opening of the reserve supply. Why? so we can continue to use gas at an ever increasing rate for a short time only to run out sooner?

Basically were screwed! Here we come hydrogen an electric!

And just how long will this short term solution "fix" our long term problem of increasing demand and declining supply? It just like people calling for the opening of the reserve supply. Why? so we can continue to use gas at an ever increasing rate for a short time only to run out sooner?

Right? What would opening more refineries do to solve this problem? If anything it would increase the price of gas more because the oil compines are investing the capital to open those refineries so in turn they make less of a profit, and they can't deal with that so they would just up the price of the gallon so it is passed onto the consumer. And also, what are more refineries gonna do, just depleat the supply faster than we allready are. No, I have a feeling that the world is going to learn the hard way, especially us Americans that you can't keep consuming and consuming something that there is a limited amount of. And there is really nothing that "we" average joe citizan can do about it, except invest in energy alternatives such as hybrid technology, biodiesel, hydrogen(basically the same concept as communism, looks good in theroy but put into action it's not worth a shit), solar power, hydroelectric(except that the creation of hydroelectric plants generally has devistating effects on the natural surrounding, such as erosion), and wind power. Basically the way energy is produced throughout the world is badly damaged and in need of being rebuilt. But, instead of rebuilding it correctly we just keep jury rigging it, and repairing it to make it last as long as humanly possible. Because no one thinks they'll be alive when the oil runs out, so why if they're not gonna live to see it should they give a shit. Totally wrong attitude that is put towards way too many issues in this world. Peace-

give this some thoughts; here in sweden the gas now cost around 12crowns/liter, while the gas in the US cost like 5crowns/liter.. 1$=8crowns (about)

so why the hell do a 2children singel mom with nursery employment afford driving around in a car dealing 30mpg? cause sweden's a damn fine country? or you have no fkn idea how to handle some changes in ur reality? correct me if im wrong.. (dont have time to define "you")

...solarcells on roof and hood, some mojo turning heat from brakes to electricity.. 10times more nuclear plants world over, automated recharging stations along roads and freeways, quit foolin around and get fusion power running.. i love solving the worlds problems

I drive a Cavalier...it averages around 27. Im not allowed to complain because I am the cause? Might want to do a little research.
Correction, YOU might wanna do a little research. Cavi's milage BLOWS in comparison to almost every other car in it's class. www.fueleconomy.gov (http://www.fueleconomy.gov) I did a search for cars from 1995 for small cars that got 30+MPG and found...31 cars that got better then 30 on the highway (and even the lowest on the list got 28 in town beating your car by 1mpg)



I work 15 hours a week, at 9/hr. I also go to school full time. I ride the lightrail to school every day. If gas prices jump to $3.30/gl, I will be in the red very quickly. WTF is your point?
my point is if your money saving skills are so poor that an extra $5-10 extra is going to break you when you get gas you need to reevaluate how you spend money, and just for your information I only make 7 an hour and work around 23 hours a week so our pay is similar.



Let me just quit my job, and go get a better one. If only it were that easy. And it doesnt get much smaller/more economical than a Cavalier. Even if I did have something bigger, what would I buy a new car with? IOU's? Not everyone can afford to run out and dump a pile of bank into a new car.
1) if you quit your old job before you have a new one lined up your stupid. 2) Yes, infact it does get smaller and more economical then a Cavalier, do a search on the fueleconomy.gov site ^^ you might be suprised (as I said I found 31 cars in 1995 alone that got 30+mpg) . 3) When did I say it had to be new??? I was saying that people I know that were complaining were driving Ford Explorers and new Chevy trucks, hence they obviously have enough money to afford a $20K car, since they own something that is that expensive or more begin with. There are plenty of cars out there that can be had for very cheap ex. 95 metro w/stick or ford festiva w/stick, yes they're fricken junk but your driving to save money not got to show off.



I work 3 minutes from my house. But the lightrail station is about 20 minutes. And those arent the only 2 places I drive.
Ok question then, why don't you walk to work? Your burning gas that you don't have to if it really is that close. As for the station you could walk there too. I assume that would be a big walk, but if your in that much of a money crunch you'll make the sacrifice.[/quote]



Slowly reread what you wrote.
Looks fine to me, care to point out my mistakes in grammer Mr. english major.


Need I say more? no please save me the trouble of having to prove you wrong on so many points again. have a nice day.


There is nothing wrong with X Files. I dont recall one about insane gas prices either. It was a good show IMO.
>.< I agree the x-files is a good show, and no there was never one about insane gas prices lol. I was trying to think of something that had conspiricies in it, I was making a point that his theories about gas prices being a goverment trick were unjustified B.S :P sorry if I confused you.

Nuclear is the way to go. Unfortunatly there have been way too many scares for people to ever take nuclear power seriously again. We also use the wrong type of reactors. What we need to use is something called a "breeder" reactor where the reactor creates its own fuel, instead of needing to be "re-fueled" every so often and have the spent fuel stored. Unfortunatly this is the most dangerous kind of reactor that is highly unstable, and has been known to get out of control. There have only been a few "known" tests of this kind of reactor and all have ended in disaster. As we speak though, French scienctist's are working on creating a breeder reactor, but will take at least 20 years to get it going(if they get that far into the project.) Peace-

I was saying that people I know that were complaining were driving Ford Explorers and new Chevy trucks, hence they obviously have enough money to afford a $20K car, since they own something that is that expensive or more begin with. There are plenty of cars out there that can be had for very cheap ex. 95 metro w/stick or ford festiva w/stick, yes they're fricken junk but your driving to save money not got to show off..hmmm not everyone want to be driving the small car, if thats the case we can go ahead and wipe out all big cars and just make the samll cheap ones to get from point a to point b. I bought my truck cause to me it offered the best for my family and style. Lately I've seen people who have very good economy cars complain about the gas situation its just not the suv folks. Its everyone. Besides whats so different from a guy driving a truck carpooling folks than one guy in an economy car, nothing they are both using up gas.


no please save me the trouble of having to prove you wrong on so many points again. have a nice day.Whats with the attitude? You are placing your point of view and so is he, there is no reason to get an attitude over it.

Besides, I find it funny that you even bring up this thread about folks complaining about gas and showing ways to not waste gas, yet you are also contributing to the waste gas problem by doing burnouts (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1883523&postcount=9) with your car in a parking lot and list racing in your profile. Way to go on saving gas and the economy. :thumbsup:

TS out

Besides, I find it funny that you even bring up this thread about folks complaining about gas and showing ways to not waste gas, yet you are also contributing to the waste gas problem by doing burnouts (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=1883523&postcount=9) with your car in a parking lot and list racing in your profile. Way to go on saving gas and the economy. :thumbsup:

TS out

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Looks fine to me, care to point out my mistakes in grammer Mr. english major.

Who said anything about English mistakes? I was merely referring to the fact that you wrote in all seriousness that anyone bothered by gas prices who hadn't conformed to your "solutions" should kill themself.

you make very good points twospirts, no everyone doesn't want to drive a small car and there isn't any difference between someone driving a small car and many people riding in a big car but when only one person is taking a big car/truck back and forth to work it is pointless and they have no rights to complain. And I'm glad that the truck you bought fits the bill for what you need to do.

on the second thing yeah I guess I acted a little childish but I just wanted to point out that there are tons of cars out there in the same size and price range as the car he was talking about that get far superior gas milage. Sorry for comming off like an ass I just wanted to point out that his views about how good the cavi's mileage is needed some adjustment.

As for me racing and doing burnouts, your right. I waste gas too, however that was a while ago back when gas was "cheap" and I accept responcibility for being a part of the reason gas is expensive, also I try to drive more conservativly now. However, people are complaining that gas is soooo expensive yet seem to not know how to avoid spending so much on it so I pointed out some ways to help. my main point of the whole post is basically don't complain, you KNOW gas is expensive and you KNOW it's not getting any cheaper so either do soemthing to combat the situation or deal with getting reamed everytime you fill the tank. Plus as many people pointed out in posts above we hardly have expensive gas, some are paying $4-6 a gallon for gas, we should be thankful that it's not that high yet here.

^ lol no honestly the killing yourself was a joke o.O however it would be a permenant solution to the problem :P

Everyone should just quit whinning about the gas prices already !!!!!

Where I live in Canada, I am paying $1.04 per litre (I don't know what that works out to in all the different currencies !!) and have seen the prices go from $0.82 to $1.04 in 2 months.

Now that does not bother me because I do drive a fair distance to work (30 kms one way), but I am also driving a 4 cylinder Cavalier. But I suck it up because I CHOOSE TO DRIVE MY CAR !!! No one is forcing me to drive it.

Just a quick thought to ponder for everyone bitching about the price of gas ... I pay about $1.00 per litre for gas and about $2.00 per litre for a bottle of WATER !!!!!

How much do you pay for bottled water? .... and why is no one bitching about that ? When water from the tap is much cheaper.

Once again I CHOOSE TO PAY that much for water.

So for everyone who wants to continue to complain ... "cowboy the fuck up" and do something productive with your energy !!!!

the cavi's mileage is needed some adjustment.

I keep a record of every time I fill up, with mileage, and how much I bought. I figure out my own gas mileage. You can go by the book, or you can go by an owner's facts.

But now, back on topic...

I keep a record of every time I fill up, with mileage, and how much I bought. I figure out my own gas mileage. You can go by the book, or you can go by an owner's facts.

But now, back on topic...

True. EPA estimates and real world results are not often the same.

I think the point is that some people who like to complain have no one to blame but themselves. They picked their car and everything else they spend their money on. If there's no room in their budget for the relatively mild increases we have seen so far, it's usually their own fault. But hay, it's still fun to bitch sometimes!

Not to worry - I've got my eye on a full sized Ram and should get a solid 16 miles to the gallon :sunglasse An extra few dollars to fill the tank (20, 30, 50) is no big fucking deal. If it is to you, then I suggest using a motorcycle whenever possible and save the car for bad weather and when you have to haul someone else around.

Gas is a commodity. The price will fluctuate on supply and demand just like everything else. Its your own cross to bear that you depend on it so much.

True. EPA estimates and real world results are not often the same.

I think the point is that some people who like to complain have no one to blame but themselves. They picked their car and everything else they spend their money on. If there's no room in their budget for the relatively mild increases we have seen so far, it's usually their own fault. But hay, it's still fun to bitch sometimes!


yeah thats very true you can make anything get horrible gas milage if you beat on it enough, hell I'm sure it you redline an insight in every gear yuo could get it to make 25MPG.

yeah my point was exactly that if you pick a ford excursion for a work truck thats fine but when you fill up it's no one's fault but you that it costs you $100 since no one stopped you from getting a Prius. I didn't want my posts to sound like I was some Greenpeace hippie. I could careless if the cars you drive get 3MPG or 50MPG it's just that gas goes up 15 cents a gallon and everyone in the US thinks that it's fooking the end of the world. And yes sometimes it is fun to bitch :P basically why I made the thread. ;)

which brings up something else annoying whats with people doing all this stupid stuff like putting acetone in thier tanks and buying "the tornado" I have a really hard time believing that finger nail polish remover is going to do anything except ruin all the seals in your fuel system. And the tornado just cracks me up why would making a vortex of air do anything for your mileage? except maybe starve the engine since I'm pretty sure linear air flow is most efficient. I mean I'm glad people are concerned about gas mileage but just cause joe bob's website says something works yet has no real scientific proof to back it up, doesn't mean it works (or is even a safe or good thing to do for that matter).

It's more like 13, not 30. Look at their 2006 lineup.

Maybe YOU should look at the car lineup, since you probably wont. I will for you. Look at the facts by the book since you favor to go that way probably..

City/highway

Aveo: 26-27, 34-35
Cobalt: 23-25, 29-34
Corvette: 18, 26-28
HHR: 22,30
Impala: 18-21, 28-31
Malibu: 18-24, 26-32
Monte Carlo: 18-21, 28-31
SSR: 13-15, 19-20


The only one I see with bad gas mileage is the SSR, but thats a 6.0 performance truck so its expected.

BUT you should go looking around before you go saying bad stuff about anything, since most of those cars get mid 20 MPG city and 30 on the highway.

i dont get what the big deal is... infact, im kind of happy the gas prices went up simply because so many people are getting rid of their suv's..

plus, people in other countries have been paying more than we do now for years...

anyways, is it true that one of the main reasons is because chinese people are starting to buy cars and since they are selling so many gas consumption has increased and caused the prices to go up? i forget where i heard that

i dont get what the big deal is... infact, im kind of happy the gas prices went up simply because so many people are getting rid of their suv's..

Ive been waiting for ^^^^^^ for years........

Prices have jumped 30 cents per liter here over the past 12 months, that's what... 60 cents a gallon U.S?

I love it when people bash other people who drive SUV's. I drive a 1997 Blazer and it is not that I want an SUV, but because that is the vehicle that fits my family the best. My wife drives a Kia Spectra because it gets good mpg for her 52 mile per day drive to work. I drive about 8 miles a day so the 16+ I get dosen't bother me that much. My SUV is the only vehicle in my family that is moving when we get 18 in. of snow and my boss calls and says "my car won't move, I need a ride to work today. I fill up less than she does but the gas has gone up here $.40 in the last 16 hours. That is freakin' nuts. So to end my useless speach, I think if you want to bitch about the price of gas go right ahead and bitch wether you drive an SUV or a econo-box, the last I checked it was a free country.

well im not to upset about gas prices, i have to pump premium too. I just found out this weekend i get 27MPG in my cavalier Z24 supercharged, thats highway driving at a constant 3,000 RPMS. IM sure i get better in the city. MY car is not geared for highway use.

>.< I agree the x-files is a good show, and no there was never one about insane gas prices lol. I was trying to think of something that had conspiricies in it, I was making a point that his theories about gas prices being a goverment trick were unjustified B.S :P sorry if I confused you.


Lol, you didnt confuse me i was just being a smart ass. I know there isnt one on gas prices. Im a dork and own all 9 seasons. But it does have conspiricies galore.

well im not to upset about gas prices, i have to pump premium too. I just found out this weekend i get 27MPG in my cavalier Z24 supercharged, thats highway driving at a constant 3,000 RPMS. IM sure i get better in the city. MY car is not geared for highway use.

Sorry to double post. I as well have to pump premium. I upgraded the PCM in my truck so its needed. Atleast until i get the stock one back from the dealer cause it was fried.

Gas went from $2.79/gal to $3.31 over night :uhoh: .. I have my truck programmed for 93 octane with my hypertech.. Looks like im going back to 87 octane for a bit.. luckily I filled up yesterday morning when I was grabbing a coffee.. $.52 increase in one day is insane.. :screwy:
-Jimmy

That jump is the old supply and demand. Due to Katrina, refinery capacity has been slashed. Supply of gas is low and demand hasn't changed so expect the prices to stay high until the refineries come back on line.

Which would be like in a couple of weeks.

Lets hope.

It's not the price itself that im upset about, its the rate of increase!


Ive been wanting to get a jetta TDI for a bit now, but to get a used one in decent condition is 10k+. Right now I have the Z34 which isn't HORRIBLE on gas mileage (24mpg on average so far), but its certainly not the 45+ that the diesel gets. However, i got the Z34 for $1k... so how long would I have to drive the jetta in order for it to actually become cheaper? Quite a few years i imagine. I don't feel like doing out the math myself.

Another thing is that the Z34 has a hellova lot more power than the TDI. 200 vs. 90 ... makes a big difference in the fun factor when putting the foot to the floor.

tough decision...

[QUOTE=Steel]Lets hope.

It's not the price itself that im upset about, its the rate of increase!

:werd:

I see Steels point.. Gas can be $5 dollars a gallon. I'm still going to drive my cars and bike.. I love cars, its my hobby.. people blow money on all sorts of shit.. I enjoy my auto's... I just don't like driving by the gas station from one day to the next and seeing a huge increase in a matter of hours.. its surprising that's all.. :biggrin:
-Jimmy

Oh yeah, im going to autozone tomorrow to buy a locking gas cap.

first, why not open ANWR? second, i was talking with my boss today and ((correct me if this is wrong because i would hate to go telling people this if it's wrong)) he said that since the hurricane has closed the refineries and oil rigs in the Gulf for however long, we'll end up paying more for gas right now. but since alaskans get the PFD in october they'll get more money at the end of the year because of the spike in oil prices.

**EDIT**
don't know what the PFD is??:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_Fund_Dividend
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you bitch about 3 for gas yet pay 5 for a cup of coffee

i'm done with this no thinking no debating just needed to remind people the simple facts.

people let them selves get ripped off and now when prices need to go up from a loss they cry about somthing they were spoiled from before.

*off soapbox*

you bitch about 3 for gas yet pay 5 for a cup of coffee

i'm done with this no thinking no debating just needed to remind people the simple facts.

people let them selves get ripped off and now when prices need to go up from a loss they cry about somthing they were spoiled from before.

*off soapbox*

$5 for a cup of coffee? Where do you buy your coffee?? Wait don't tell me STARBUCKS!! Honestly from everything I've heard there isn't any actual loss at this point. The loss will actually begin in about 2-3 days. At this point it is all pure hype. Peace-

$5 for a cup of coffee? Where do you buy your coffee?? Wait don't tell me STARBUCKS!! Honestly from everything I've heard there isn't any actual loss at this point. The loss will actually begin in about 2-3 days. At this point it is all pure hype. Peace-
I make my coffee at home Cafe du mont chickroee blend infact.

I was just trying to plant the seed of thought we *most of socity* gives into crap like starbucks cellphones bottled water and pays insane amounts with out blinking yet when its gas they flip.

do the math a gallon of latte is probbly like 90 bucks :lol:

Heh, that is a good point...

On that same note people that buy bottled water(or buy it constantly, I've bought some before just to have a bottle to refill) when the freaking faucet is free and tastes the same.

I don't think gas will keep me from driving... I'll probably cut back to one fun cruise a week instead of... well, every day. :lol2: Cars are what I love, and I'll do what I can do keep on lovin... :cwm27:

City/highway

Aveo: 26-27, 34-35
Cobalt: 23-25, 29-34
Corvette: 18, 26-28
HHR: 22,30
Impala: 18-21, 28-31
Malibu: 18-24, 26-32
Monte Carlo: 18-21, 28-31
SSR: 13-15, 19-20




Now let's look at Honda's lineup:

Aveo: 26-27, 34-35 Insight: 61, 66
Cobalt: 23-25, 29-34 Civic: 36, 44
Corvette: 18, 26-28 S2000: 20, 26
HHR: 22,30 Element: 22, 26
Impala: 18-21, 28-31 Accord: 26, 34
Malibu: 18-24, 26-32 Accord: 26, 34
Monte Carlo: 18-21, 28-31 Accord Coupe: 26, 34
SSR: 13-15, 19-20 thank goodness Honda doesn't offer something like that ugly thing

The only place where Chevy gets better gas mileage is with the HHR vs. Element. I rest my case. GM doesn't care about gas mileage.

The insight is very affordable to. I bet those things are going to be going like hot cakes if gas goes to $4 a gallon.

Man. I'm gonna start slapping these people that keep making these dumbshit compariosns of "well you pay like, 6 bucks a gallon for water/coffee/sex, so quit yer bitching!"

Fuck you. I don't know woabut you, but i dont drink 30 gallons of coffee a week, and if I did, i'd certainly be bitching aobut the price. On the same token, if my car only burned 2 gallons of gas a week (about how much coffee I drink) then i wouldnt give a shit if it went up to 10 bucks a gallon!

Fucking christ people, use a little brains before opening yer mouths.

/rant

Man. I'm gonna start slapping these people that keep making these dumbshit compariosns of "well you pay like, 6 bucks a gallon for water/coffee/sex, so quit yer bitching!"

Fuck you. I don't know woabut you, but i dont drink 30 gallons of coffee a week, and if I did, i'd certainly be bitching aobut the price. On the same token, if my car only burned 2 gallons of gas a week (about how much coffee I drink) then i wouldnt give a shit if it went up to 10 bucks a gallon!

Fucking christ people, use a little brains before opening yer mouths.

/rant
I can semi see your point but its little to narrow I feel.

the water/coffee/sex you can get cheaper but don't gas your stuck paying that price for.

Say you have 20 bucks gas is 4 a gallon. Starbucks coffee say 3 bucks at home a quater. now gas your going to pay 4 bucks no matter what. Coffee thats your call you dont have to shell out that much and can make your money go farther so you save a little bit there and the extra cost of gas is offset.

I understand about the amout used being differnt but we all know no one really drinks 30 gallons a week of coffee and no one uses 64oz a week of gas.

granted this only works for most people not people who already spend wisely.

Interesting debate.

Gas here ( PEI, Canada ) went up last night .35 cents a litre. Driving to work it was 99.7 cents a litre, then going home it was 135.4 cents a litre (or liter depending on where you come from :lol: ).

Big deal you might say, here in (insert your place) we pay x amount per litre/gallon. You have it easy..

Well, in my '89 Bronco II that I use for going back and forth to work, comes in real handy in the Winter, which has an 87 liter tank (pretty close to 20 gallons I think) it would take $87.00 to fill it on the way to work, on the way home it would take $117.00 to fill it.
Quick and dirty math we're talking about an increase of $30.00 per tank in just a few hours.

I don't know where you come from but that is just a little hard to take with a smile.

My truck while not being the most fuel effecient rig on the road is hardly a gas guzzling SUV.

I do plan on trying to buy my uncles 2000 Ford Focus ZX3 Sport, nice little car, black, ultra well maintained, fairly decent on gas, and I can get it at a wicked price in the Spring when he buys a new car for himself (he's an engineer) but for now I'm running the Bronco.
Not exactly what I want but it just makes sense for me right now. It's all I have.

I know that I am lucky to even be in the financial position that I am in right now and I give thanks every day for that.
I have a wife, two kids, a decent job and a nice little house and I thank (insert your choice of God here) that I have what I have.


The thing that gets me about all of this gas prices ( apart from the people that say its' no big deal, people are starving in New Orleans (for example no offense intended) so we should get over it...uhhh, people have been starving forever in lots of other countries and no one was using that argument until it hit the ole US god forbid, didn't take long to forget about the Tsunami did it?) is that the oil companies can charge whatever they want and what are you going to do about it?

I imagine that they are sitting around somewhere and saying things like " there's no way that you'll ever get them to pay $60 per barrel, they won't stand for it", " oh yeah, well what can they really do, we can charge whatever we want, watch this!!","see I told you,wanna go for $70??"

And we bitch and complain but then fork over the money in the end don't we? You need the gas so...

It is all a game and we have no moves left. What are you going to do about it? Boycott the gas stations for a day? Wow, you'll have to go and buy gas tomorrow.

They're making billions and billions and billions of dollars.

No one gives a shit about you, me or your personal problems and how you can't afford to keep gas in your rig or how you don't know how you'll afford to heat your house, or that your whole town is flooded, or that you can't afford to go on a cruise tonight.

The idea is to make as much money as fast as possible.

Here's the thing, if I have something that you need and you can't get it anywhere else then I can pretty much charge whatever I want. Rage at me all you want the simple fact is you will pay me what I want for it or you don't get any.

I wish we could all go out and buy bikes and peddle to work/school or where ever we needed to go.
If I could afford it I'd go out and buy an alternate fuel vehicle today so I could get away from the oil teat.
The good that it would do the Earth alone would be worth it.

The title of the thread is right, but I think that the reasons are a little screwy.

But we "need" our stuff and that all takes oil in one form or another so we're fucked.

So, tonight as I head home for the long holiday weekend, it's Labour (or is that Labor ) Day weekend here, and I drive in to the gas station and throw $20.00 in my truck, which will buy me about ohh..what less than 15 litres, what will I be thinking?
Probably something along the lines of "how in the hell did we ever let ourselves get so spoiled" and " I guess that it's my turn in the barrel".

Basically were screwed! Here we come hydrogen an electric!

As long as they come in a sports car model...lol

Electric cars would be awesome for most people. As long as you drive a specific amount of miles (commuting to work) it will work for you, just charge it at night. I'm going to park my car, take it off insurance, and ride my bike.

claw hammer said:
If only it were that easy. And it doesnt get much smaller/more economical than a Cavalier.


actually the cavaliers are the worst small cars when it comes to fuel economy. look at the figures. imports are the best at sipping fuel at any size vehicle

Then why do they boast about over 30 models that get over 30 mpg or more?

GM has 30 cars with 30 mpg HIGHWAY because they own like ten car companies. They make so many cars, it would be embarrassing if that wasn't true.


Also, for those that think electricity/hydrogen is the perfect energy source, think about what goes into generating that electricity or hydrogen. I've heard from numerous sources that in making the hydrogen that it takes to go x number of miles, one burns twice as much gas as with an internal combustion. The same goes for electricity. Most of the electricity is generated using non renewable resources. (in the US).

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2003/09/21/20030920164247.jpeg

100kph in under 4 seconds... how many mph does that translate to? well its an electric sports car and ugly as fk...

as for hydrogen... bush had no idea what he was talking about when he said he saw cars running on water in the next couple years...