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any experts in all motor?


RoCkIn CIVex
05-06-2002, 02:39 PM
how can i build an awsome all motor engine? like what components do i need? ..... like throttle, cams... all that stuff? i dont know all the parts so can u guys help me out?

97Civic
05-06-2002, 03:11 PM
Hi, I'm no expert, but I'm currently planning a b16a swap into my 97civic, so I've learned some stuff. I hope this list helps you out. (i've seen many of these parts listed at www.jdmhondaparts.com)
1. TODA Cams 2. adj. cam gears 3. air intake, header 4-1, cat-back exhaust 4. performance pulleys 5. fuel system- fuel rail, regulator, injectors 6. high comp. pistons (block may need boring) 7. titanium valve retainers 8. performance valves 9. valve springs 10. performance valve guides 11. port and polish head and intake manifold 12. performance chip for ecu, Apex'i vafc controller
This are a few things that can get you started. Hope I helped. Drive safely :sun:

sweetcarz.com
05-06-2002, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by RoCkIn CIVex
how can i build an awsome all motor engine? like what components do i need? ..... like throttle, cams... all that stuff? i dont know all the parts so can u guys help me out?

would help which motor u had and all but I can hand u some recommendations.
Skunk2 ECU
HP Headers
AEM Intake (no exceptions)
JG Edelbrock short shifter
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
AEM cam gears
Unorthadox Pulleys
Crower rods
JE Pistons
Crower billet cams
Greddy exhaust
Holley throttle body
APEXi S-AFC controller
FAL radiator fan
Fludyine Radiator
MSD Ignition
AEM fuel rails
Skunk2 titanium springs and retainers

pulled this off the top of my head......what I would do, sorry if I missed anything, hope it helps u

VTEC_boi
05-06-2002, 04:03 PM
You need experience to build it :)


But...I'll give my little run-down of an awesome motor just like everyone else has:

B20Z block
Z10 Engineering block girdle
ductile iron sleeves (stock bore)
12.1 compression pistons (Endyn rollerwaves...ohhhhh yeesssss)
new, stronger rings
stronger rods
balance and blueprint
Mugen oil pan
custom head gasket (for strength)
port and polished B18C1 cylinder head
Skunk2 intake manifold
70mm throttle body
Toda Spec A/B/C whatever you want for your idle (go with A for street, B for street/race, and C for straight race w/ a high ass idle) cams
larger, stronger valves
stronger valvesprings
titanium retainers
Benen fuel rail
270cc injectors
some sort of intake, Comptech/AEM I don't care as long as it isn't a cheap, low quality one
SMSP, HyTech, or Toda 4-1 header (2.5" collector)
custom high flow 2.5" catalytic conv. (guessing its for the street, if not go ahead and get a test pipe)
2.5" stainless steel or titanium cat-back exhaust I like the A&J Racing Type-One exhaust
BBK fuel pump
A'PEXi V-AFC
some sort of easy-to-tune cam gears
JDM ITR transmission
lightened flywheel
stronger clutch
Fluidyne radiator and other cooling things (fan, cap, etc.)
TUNING

BLAM you've got yourself a nice 205ish whp NA motor.

sweetcarz.com
05-06-2002, 04:18 PM
hey Sean, JDM R trannies and R trannies are almost identical. They only have one gear ratio different. Why waste the cash :)?

VTEC_boi
05-06-2002, 04:22 PM
USDM R final drive sucks....straight up.

You could get a USDM R tranny and then an ATS Final Drive, or save the time/work and get a JDM one. :)

sweetcarz.com
05-06-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by VTEC_boi
USDM R final drive sucks....straight up.

You could get a USDM R tranny and then an ATS Final Drive, or save the time/work and get a JDM one. :)

yeah you just want to buy something with JDM on it. Just take a dam UDSM R tranny. I am just saying, just becuase it says JDM doesn't mean it is going to wipe your own ass :D. lol, u just like it becuase it has JDM in it jdmcivic moderator :finger:

CivSiGuy
05-06-2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by sweetcarz.com


yeah you just want to buy something with JDM on it. Just take a dam UDSM R tranny. I am just saying, just becuase it says JDM doesn't mean it is going to wipe your own ass :D. lol, u just like it becuase it has JDM in it jdmcivic moderator :finger:

actually the JDM R tranny can shave a decent amount from your 1/4 mile times cuz of the much better final drive.

Quetzolcotl
05-06-2002, 09:05 PM
if you really want to find out about what works and what doesnt you need to know how engines work and respond to different parts and modifications. a big list of parts isn't going to help you out unless you know what you are buying and what purpose it serves. i'd say read up on all these articles:

http://www.team-integra.net/sections/articles/listArticles.asp?Show=1

you'll have to register to access them but i've learned more from there in a day then a year on online forums. read all the 'engine internal' articles and stuff by michael delany, or posts by Tuan on superhonda hondavision. its the same guy by the way.

RoCkIn CIVex
05-09-2002, 02:11 PM
Originally posted by CivSiGuy


actually the JDM R tranny can shave a decent amount from your 1/4 mile times cuz of the much better final drive.

sorry for taking so long on responding to these replies but but what ur saying is so true!.....when i went to moroso speedwayto see some drag racing there was this gay ford focus Funny Car and everyone was so hyped to see it on the 1/4 mile and of corse it was so overrated and when it did its time is had awsome start up but by the end it looked so so and everyone was like" why is it going so slow??" and its time was like around high 14s low 15. it did like 3 runs

RoCkIn CIVex
05-09-2002, 02:12 PM
by the way thnx for all these suggestions...did anyone forget about new piston rings???.....lol j/k dont know what that is... :rolleyes: :D

sweetcarz.com
05-09-2002, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by RoCkIn CIVex


sorry for taking so long on responding to these replies but but what ur saying is so true!.....when i went to moroso speedwayto see some drag racing there was this gay ford focus Funny Car and everyone was so hyped to see it on the 1/4 mile and of corse it was so ove and when it did its time is had awsome start up but by the end it looked so so and everyone was like" why is it going so slow??" and its time was like around high 14s low 15. it did like 3 runs

ok.....u are saying it's so true that the JDM R tranny makes a difference and then you start talking about a Focus funny car being slow in the 1/4 mile race, someone needs to clear this up, I know it's been a long day for me but I am still very confused, someone please help, someone is confused, lol, me or him. I just am making sure that getting 2 hours of sleep is not the reason I am confused.

CivSiGuy
05-09-2002, 10:28 PM
Originally posted by sweetcarz.com


ok.....u are saying it's so true that the JDM R tranny makes a difference and then you start talking about a Focus funny car being slow in the 1/4 mile race, someone needs to clear this up, I know it's been a long day for me but I am still very confused, someone please help, someone is confused, lol, me or him. I just am making sure that getting 2 hours of sleep is not the reason I am confused.

no.. that had nothing to do with JDM R trannies

RoCkIn CIVex
05-10-2002, 02:16 PM
i was talking baoiut the final speed.....duh!!!:flipa: :rolleyes:

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