Any other car drawing froums?

I was just wondering if anybody here knows of any other forums specific to drawing cars. Im sure there are some, but I havent found them yet. So if anybody knows of one that's free to join, that would be very helpful.

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www.productdesignforums.com

Not really unless you are into car designs.

I do like car design. In fact, I want to become a car designer as a career. But I'm not that great at drawing. So thats why I'm looking for sites that can teach about how to draw well (like techniques and tutorials and those sorts of things).