getting engine out

What do you guys use to take an engine out? I mean I could get a hoist, but it looks sort of pricy. I wondering if there is any cheaper way to build something similar? I am starting to get more proffesional and buying/working on camaros become my part time job while i am in college. And it actually brings money. I cant see myself working some 8 dollar part time shitty job. So I am gonna rent someones garage (3 car one) since I live in a apartment.

I rent a hoist.

4 hours....$18

hell i use a lift, and bring her out from the bottom. u guys are talented and good for bringing her out through the top and keeping the nose clip on while doing it

If you don't know anyone that could loan you one, I'd call around and find somewhere near you that would rent it.

You could run some chains over the rafters and use a come-along (manual winch) but the immense stress your putting on them is kinda playing with fire.

I did it out the top with a pep boys cherry picker, like 3 times now. If you take your time, its not that bad of a job although with a lift, its a snap.

whats a cherry picker?

thats a cherry picker http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-Ton-Folding-Engine-Hoist-Cherry-Picker-NEW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63697QQitemZ4569855 032QQrdZ1

Formula, i was pondering on getting one of those, but now i think i will. The kid i got the Flowmaster from had one and they were using it for everything. Not that expensive either (yeah, i got a nerve to say that, i'm broke).

Don't get them from ebay. Go to autozone or pepboys or strauss. The shipping they charge on ebay will kill you and pep boys always have them on sale and mine has worked like a pro for 2 - 3 years now.

i cant believe you got your engine out with one of those, half the damn engine in under the dash.

must have taken for ever...

nope, the engine slides forward once it comes out of the motor mounts. Taking the engine out is the easy part. Although aligning the tranny pins in the block with a cherry picker takes nerves of steel.

What do you guys use to take an engine out? I mean I could get a hoist, but it looks sort of pricy. I wondering if there is any cheaper way to build something similar? I am starting to get more proffesional and buying/working on camaros become my part time job while i am in college. And it actually brings money. I cant see myself working some 8 dollar part time shitty job. So I am gonna rent someones garage (3 car one) since I live in a apartment.

btw if you decide to go Mr. Luos route withthe jack stands and a harness and you find your self under the car trying to get the jack stand pin out and it dont wanna come out, take a deep breath and check to make sure the car isnt resting on the jacks.

Don't get them from ebay. Go to autozone or pepboys or strauss. The shipping they charge on ebay will kill you and pep boys always have them on sale and mine has worked like a pro for 2 - 3 years now.

I checked, and to my house they want $225.54 for shipping alone!

I checked, and to my house they want $225.54 for shipping alone!
http://pepboys.shoplocal.com/pepboys/default.aspx?action=detail&flashbrowse=y&storeid=2314627&rapid=167557&pagenumber=1&listingid=-2096591681&ref=%2fpepboys%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrowsepag eflash%26storeid%3d2314627%26pagenumber%3d1%26rapi d%3d167557%26prvid%3dpepboys-050821

Harbor Freight has cherry pickers really cheap. I got my engine stand there for about $60. I don't think the picker was much more than that. I'd check to see if you have one somewhere around where you live.

could you get an engine stand/rotersiery from pepboys?

yes

Those cherry pickers are real cheap. I have seen one for $500 before that. Thank you guys a lot, it realy helps.

if you have a harbor freight around where you live that the place to get a 2 ton engine host.harbor freight (http://order.harborfreight.com/EasyAsk/harborfreight/results.jsp)

hell i use a lift, and bring her out from the bottom. u guys are talented and good for bringing her out through the top and keeping the nose clip on while doing it
Mine came out the bottom.

Used the hoist to lift the car off the k-member. :icon16:

Mine came out the bottom.

Used the hoist to lift the car off the k-member. :icon16:
lol thats how we did my friends 91z28....just unbolted everything and put the hoist on his wonder bar and then lifted the car up and took the whole front end almost off.....

Do you have to make any clearance to get the engine out the top? I always thought the water pump had to come off and the rad yanked out before it would clear.

I should get me one of those.

BTW I don't know if anyone else saw but in another thread the dude fastened the engine hoist to the strut brace and lifted the whole front of the car up over the engine & suspension. Not exactly sure if I'd try that myself but it sure seemed clever.

EDIT: Uh, ya nevermind that last part lol.

You have to remove, pretty much everything from the front of the engine to get her out. The intake manifold needs to come off to get it out from the top, the water pump, ofcourse the radiator and condensor and tranny cooler, all the accessorys,. It would be much easier to remove it from the bottom, if there was a safer manner in which to do it without a lift, I would have definetly attempted it that way. Also I saw a article on the web about how to remove from the bottom and yeah, the guy used a strut tower brace to lift it off the engine and tranny, then roller them out on like a flat wooden dolly he made and when finished lowwered the car back on them. It looked pretty easy.

BTW I don't know if anyone else saw but in another thread the dude fastened the engine hoist to the strut brace and lifted the whole front of the car up over the engine & suspension. Not exactly sure if I'd try that myself but it sure seemed clever.
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http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Swap051.JPG

yeah we saw that..... i bet that was something too see, i wouldnt try an remove our engines without a lift because i have enough fun doing it with one. im good at engine work and all but i snap out real fast when shit starts going down hill. thats why i only made it as a jetengine mechanic for 2 yrs when i first went inot the airforce...it drove me nuts. being a on a search and rescue team and being a cop was much better for my nervs lol

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http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/Swap051.JPG

on horsepower tv they left the front wheels and all the accessories on... and literally wheeled the damn thing around... it was pretty funny looking... an engine and tranny on two wheels being pushed around like a shopping cart... what made u take off the accessories and the wheels and stuff?

I didn't have to. I just did. I needed the cam out before I pulled the motor, someone was buying it.
So I tore down to make life easier when we pulled it out.

The whole process really wasn't that bad. Took some time, and we forgot to remove the brake lines (which broke) but not a problem. Just get new ones for the install of the new motor.

And as far as I am concerned....this is STILL just a bolt-on car. Motor bolts on. :lol:
It will look stock under the hood minus fuel rails, lid, and headers. The color of the block will be a touch different, but most people won't know the difference.

very sleeperish... and very evil i might add... especially for poor guys like me who would be minutes away from having our ass handed to us...

when people who don't know very much look under my hood i just tell them i have a 305tpi or something... they wouldn't know either way... but anyone who knows anything about chevy small blocks will know that my engine is not a tpi...

yeah like how im gonna parade around like i have a v6 rs, when it gonna be a v8 rs. the sound will give it up but maybe if they roll up on me while im already stoped ill catch them that way. or get them before i start my car then be like ok lets race then lol

I tell people all the time after I race them its a stock 3.8. I doubt they believe me cause of the way she sounds but without the badges, that I removed you have no way of knowing its a formula (from the outside anyway).

u need your ass kicked for that..lmfao...john u are crazy as hell....a v6 huh? i know that car is pulling harder than any v6 ive ever seen lol

I hardly ever go full out racinng on the throttle unless its a worthy competitor ofcourse and the way people talk about schooling F-bodys and the amount of people out there with fake Z28 badges and Formula/Trans Am badges. I am doing a public service to the F-body community but yeah I will probably end up rotting in the firery pits of hell but thats nothing new.

i had a guy that pulled up next to me, literally after hearing my cammed v8 from behind and looked at me and said "that's a v6 right?" with a completely straight face... i genuinely couldn't say anything, i just looked away in shock...

i had a guy that pulled up next to me, literally after hearing my cammed v8 from behind and looked at me and said "that's a v6 right?" with a completely straight face... i genuinely couldn't say anything, i just looked away in shock...

should have been like, "yeah!, wanna race!?" :evillol:

should have been like, "yeah!, wanna race!?" :evillol:

his ignorance caught me completely off gaurd... i couldn't say a damn thing lol. he was driving an SUV anyway he didn't want to race, he was just trying to act like he knew stuff bout cars...

lol, then you should have just blew his doors off.

wow...just wow

wow...just wow

my thoughts exactly...

Dude, freaking awesome stuff that you're doing John. :lol:

Putting a good word for the V6 F-bodys with an 8..

my thoughts exactly...

i would have just pulled out all the stops, and the air that usually blows your doors off would have prob tipped it over

lol great stuff......i mught be blowing some doors off soon. i found a camaro and the guy says he can do a wheelie with good tires.....and its a 305! he went on for ever telling me what he has done to it. so im trying to sell my maro to buy his maro......

id ask him to prove that... before you sell your camaro and buy something in worse shape then what you already have.

well even if i dont like it when i go check it out, i still want a v8 camaro so i would be happy i dont have the 2.8 anymore and that means i can go buy buy buy some true muscle.

plus when i look at it i will be test driving it and all that stuff. i actually wouldnt mind it not beeing able to do a wheelie. all i want is something mad fast. so i can get up to 40 in no time lol ha ha ya. takes me an hour in my 88. well not really but its just too slow

i doubt that it will be able to pull the wheels... but it isn't impossible to get some power out of 305's, just tougher than using a 350... check it out, just don't kill yourself w/ too much power

public ignorance is how i win a lot of races, i get the jump, they hear the v8 and think it's hopless and just back down. or i rev and they get scared it's 5.7 instead of a 5.0. it happens a lot more than i thought it would

the old 305 i had would tear alot of people out of the hole... i did get a few that backed down because of that... but i also did get wooped by alot of people... once that engine got passed 4000 rpm it pretty much had nothin else...

What about a nice turbo? That should fix it.
And how did you a get a t56 in it? I know they need custom crossmembers, but what else?

if you were to swap the t56 into your third gen, bout the only things you need is the crossmember, and speedometer mods so the speedo reads right... that is if you already had a manual... if u had an auto you are going to need pedals, slave cylinder, cut a hole for the shifter and a new shift plate...

There you go Luos - I knew it was someone in here. BTW drvngstorm05 I also saw them drop the entire front suspension & motor/tranny on HP TV. Speaking of HP TV, did anyone else catch it a few weeks ago when they took that LS-Gun to the track? Stage II heads (can't remember if it had a bigger cam or not), Baer brakes, N2O kit and a new 12-bolt rear (although they used the same shitty control arms, etc.)

This thing NA was running high 13's! I was like what the hell? Mind you they didn't show 60ft times and the track was hot (car was also on drag "radials"). I'm sure the car was making decent HP but high 13's, shit. On the juice the friggin thing dropped 2 full seconds off though.

Just goes to show you big HP doesn't necessarily tell the whole tale. The only guys I've ever seen super-brag about their HP - the ones who will pull their dyno sheet out of the car - will never race their cars. Its cause they've been embarrased already and are sick of or out of excuses as to why their 500 rwph monster got smoked by car with a lot less shit and half the money put into it.

And eh, that story was classic drvngstorm05 - buddy asking you if its a 6. I probably couldn't have laugher at him either... just utter disbelief.

i think the 13 sec run was on the stock tires and on the 11.1 sec run they used the bottle and changed tires to drop the 2 seconds. they were also complaining about the transmissioin being junk or something. pretty bad ass car either way