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Swapping in a B18C1


nulldreamer
05-06-2002, 04:06 AM
Hi,
If one was to swap in a B18C1 into a stock RS or LS integra(95), what else will that someone need to change? Is it possible to just change the motor or there will be some additional modifications needed. What would be the different steps into upgrading an RS or LS, and what is an average estimate($) of doing it?
Thanks!

threethirteen
05-06-2002, 09:50 AM
if you just want to swap the engine without upgrading the internals then nothing needs to be done. its a strait swap..pretty easy. the engine should be somewhere in the 2000-3000 range. i dont know about installation though...but you might be able to do it yourself with a couple friends, a nice helms manual, and a little confidence.

nulldreamer
05-06-2002, 04:01 PM
Thank you for your reply,
Will the VTEC work if It's simply swaped in, Does it need some extra chips or "controlers" (I don't know much about cars as you can see). In GSR the VTEC engagement happens at 4400, will this happen? What extra features (the major important ones) do we need in order for RS or LS to perform as a GSR or better, I have the price of an engine now what else and how much$?(installation excluded)
Thanks!

threethirteen
05-06-2002, 05:15 PM
you will need the engine and the ecu for it to work. the vtec should kick in around 4400 as in the GSR, you are using the gsr engine.

if you put the gsr engine in an rs the car probably will perform better than a gsr due to its weight..its slightly lighter than the gsr. but it won't be much better.
i would say before you do the engine swap to read up a bit. some reading online, reading manuals. get a helms manual (about 60-70 bucks), mabe goto an acura dealer and see if they can give you some kind of info on it. basically, if you are going to do it make sure you know exactly how to do it before you start. once you get the engine out you gotta know how to get it back in. with a strait b series swap it isnt really that hard. even make some drawings of the engine bay if that will help, mark off some tubing and where it goes, then compare it to the other engine...whatever you need to do to help you remember what things are.
and unless you want to upgrade the internals it shouldnt cost much more than the engine itself. maybe some new coolant lines or hoses but those shouldnt cost you much, i think you could do them all for around 100. if you do want to change some internals then it could cost you anywhere from a couple hundred to a couple thousand.

97teg
05-06-2002, 08:32 PM
the gsr may still be quicker cuz it has a close ratio transmission.

RedRocketGSR
05-06-2002, 11:11 PM
4400? VTEC? My VTEC doesnt kick in until about 5800 RPM. Mine is a 95 tho. Does the 96+ kick in eariler since it's OBDII or what?:confused:

nulldreamer
05-07-2002, 03:19 AM
Thanks for your replies,
about the close ratio transmission what needs to be done? Could a negative drawback be that when you redline on the stock RS or LS engine, and then switch to a higher gear, that will cause the RPM to fall under the minimum for vtec engagement?
Thanks!

97teg
05-07-2002, 11:18 AM
you could always put a gsr tranny in too if you had the funds. I'm not sure if a ls/rs tranny will work with a b18c1?:confused: i may be wrong, it may work...

threethirteen
05-07-2002, 12:58 PM
any trany from any b-series engine will work with the other b-series engine. but considering you want the gsr engine, you might as well get the trany too...if you want the gear ratios. but the closer ratios make for faster pickup. if you want a higher speed than you want a wider ratio. but you really can't drive that fast so on the street the closer ratios are better.

SleeperTeg
05-07-2002, 01:08 PM
get a LSD and flywheel/clutch while your in there....

juncivicls
05-07-2002, 02:32 PM
if you want to go turbo than the ls tranny would be better.
i agree w/ sleeperteg about the clutch and flywheel. you should get them since your doing the swap. i think you should keep the ls tranny, get a lite weight flywheel and run nos.
i have a gsr tranny (ls tranny blew up) and my car raps out way to quick.
good luck w/ the swap!

nulldreamer
05-08-2002, 04:02 AM
Thanks for your replies !

SwiftyR
05-08-2002, 02:15 PM
Hey Jun are u with RA

juncivicls
05-09-2002, 02:15 PM
whats RA swifty?

SwiftyR
05-09-2002, 09:47 PM
Nevermind..... hat Civic looks like a Civic around Baltimore i see all the tiime.. Him and his Buddy's always hang out in ferdale ad a damn 7 eleven... There In R&A customs or some shit... My Fault

juncivicls
05-10-2002, 01:51 AM
its all good swifty its not like i drive the only civic that looks like this! :)
but yeah i live in washington
hows the import scene in BA?

SwiftyR
05-10-2002, 01:32 PM
Import Scene???? What import Scene more like Ricer Scene.. They all either have Civic hb with the 26' exhust and the black rims.. (Stock w/o hubs) Or (my fav) The all mighty z24 Cav You all heard of GW motorsports... Well come to B-more.. all the "Import" guys have there GW Banners.. I hear DC has alot of importers...


PS WTF is a Civic hb VX

juncivicls
05-14-2002, 01:54 PM
honda civic vx? the vx is a trim level w/ a 92 hp sohc vtec-e(conomy)
mines the mighty cx w/ 70 hp
doubled that w/ my ls! hehe

PhatAck813
07-18-2002, 12:16 PM
LS AND GSRs use a different tranny. Try a LS/Vtec Swap

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