Red 5 MP4/20 Resin kit..??
mickbench
08-24-2005, 04:33 PM
Just looking around on the old net for some pics of the Honda F1 car I'm about to start, and came across this -
http://www.redfive.com.br/next.htm
Not only that, you get to read the manual for the car, along with some ref: picutres of the real F1 car..
http://www.redfive.com.br/OnlineManuals/GPS003_MP4_20/English/Page%202.htm
Looks to be superb kit, and from the US suppliers is $150.. For all you F1 nuts out there, what do you think? Anyone looking to buy one? It was a great read, just reading the manual was fun.. would love to have a go at one.. But as always, money and common sense come into play..
Bah...
http://www.redfive.com.br/next.htm
Not only that, you get to read the manual for the car, along with some ref: picutres of the real F1 car..
http://www.redfive.com.br/OnlineManuals/GPS003_MP4_20/English/Page%202.htm
Looks to be superb kit, and from the US suppliers is $150.. For all you F1 nuts out there, what do you think? Anyone looking to buy one? It was a great read, just reading the manual was fun.. would love to have a go at one.. But as always, money and common sense come into play..
Bah...
Carretera18
08-24-2005, 05:26 PM
Hi,
I found a modeling diary of Red5's Jaguar kit...
http://www.f1modeler.com/
Looks awesome
Best regards
Marco
I found a modeling diary of Red5's Jaguar kit...
http://www.f1modeler.com/
Looks awesome
Best regards
Marco
mickbench
08-24-2005, 05:29 PM
Hi,
I found a modeling diary of Red5's Jaguar kit...
http://www.f1modeler.com/
Looks awesome
Best regards
Marco
Yeah it does. I too read this, as it was this link that lead to me their website.. Look to be very good resin kits.. Wonder if anyone on here has attempted one yet..
I found a modeling diary of Red5's Jaguar kit...
http://www.f1modeler.com/
Looks awesome
Best regards
Marco
Yeah it does. I too read this, as it was this link that lead to me their website.. Look to be very good resin kits.. Wonder if anyone on here has attempted one yet..
Captain Mark
08-24-2005, 11:27 PM
I've been keeping an eye on the new RedFive kits coming out, and they're really taking the game to Studio27. Not only are they producing what appear to be good quality resin kits, but they're also bringing them out with full engine and "nose cone off" detail! They actually supply real wooden planks for the bottom of the car too.
I'd love to get my hands on one of these kits, but they are rather pricey. Perhaps next year...
I'd love to get my hands on one of these kits, but they are rather pricey. Perhaps next year...
mickbench
08-25-2005, 03:11 AM
All the real good F1 subjects appear to be coming out in these resin kits. I will be truthful, I would love to add some to my collection as they look so good. But at these prices, I'd be too scared to even open the box, yet alone start applying any limited skills I've got..
Why is all the decent F1 kits only appearing from the resin cast companys? I've got the Honda BAR and a few others that I would like as models on the list, but I can only get them as Resin kits. At around £100 - £150 each it is such a shame, as in the end, I buy them to build them and at that price I'd perhaps not even do that..!! LOL..
Need a better paid job..!!
Why is all the decent F1 kits only appearing from the resin cast companys? I've got the Honda BAR and a few others that I would like as models on the list, but I can only get them as Resin kits. At around £100 - £150 each it is such a shame, as in the end, I buy them to build them and at that price I'd perhaps not even do that..!! LOL..
Need a better paid job..!!
Captain Mark
08-25-2005, 04:23 AM
Holy crap that's a lot of money for those kits! Take a page from my book and grab them from www.hlj.com or my current favourite www.mediamixhobby.com.sg .
I bought a Studio27 kit about a month ago from MediaMixHobby and paid roughly AUS$225 delivered. This comes to about UK95 Pounds, which is expensive, but not so bad. Especially if you're like me and tend to buy and finish perhaps three kits in a year.
I guess I was just bored with the Tamiya stuff at the time, and wanted something different. I chose the BAR as it was the 'plainest' of the lot, and wasn't all red. Some of the earlier BAR's had even less colour than they have now, so perhaps grab one of them for the first try. You might even find one reasonably cheaply on eBay! I actually got my BAR on eBay for AUS$175 delivered, which is about UK74 Pounds.
The resin kits are a challenge, but with the skills you've shown on your recent builds I think you'd enjoy a resin kit and complete it well. My skills are only moderate, but I'm having (slow) success with my first resin kit.
Anyway, enough rambling from me, time for some modelling...
I bought a Studio27 kit about a month ago from MediaMixHobby and paid roughly AUS$225 delivered. This comes to about UK95 Pounds, which is expensive, but not so bad. Especially if you're like me and tend to buy and finish perhaps three kits in a year.
I guess I was just bored with the Tamiya stuff at the time, and wanted something different. I chose the BAR as it was the 'plainest' of the lot, and wasn't all red. Some of the earlier BAR's had even less colour than they have now, so perhaps grab one of them for the first try. You might even find one reasonably cheaply on eBay! I actually got my BAR on eBay for AUS$175 delivered, which is about UK74 Pounds.
The resin kits are a challenge, but with the skills you've shown on your recent builds I think you'd enjoy a resin kit and complete it well. My skills are only moderate, but I'm having (slow) success with my first resin kit.
Anyway, enough rambling from me, time for some modelling...
Spitfire7
08-25-2005, 04:33 AM
Although resin kits look very expensive to buy, they will almost certainly taking more work and longer to build than your average plastic kit.
So for example, a £20 plastic kit may take you a month to complete, but an £100 resin kit may take you 5 months to complete because of the difficulty of the work involved. So in this way it costs the same as buying the equivalent plastic kits. I remember HiroBoy saying something similar when someone asked him how he could afford to keep buying 1/12 scale kits :smile:
So for example, a £20 plastic kit may take you a month to complete, but an £100 resin kit may take you 5 months to complete because of the difficulty of the work involved. So in this way it costs the same as buying the equivalent plastic kits. I remember HiroBoy saying something similar when someone asked him how he could afford to keep buying 1/12 scale kits :smile:
RallyRaider
08-25-2005, 05:09 AM
Wow that is fantastic. A full engine detail MP4/20.
I know what I want for Christmas... :)
Judging by the parts naming, it looks like the whole thing is metal.
I know what I want for Christmas... :)
Judging by the parts naming, it looks like the whole thing is metal.
ales
08-25-2005, 09:11 AM
You do know that Revell AG are coming out with the 20 plastic kit? ;)
RallyRaider
08-25-2005, 04:55 PM
Yup, but Revells will be a curbside, this one has an engine. :)
Captain Mark
08-25-2005, 05:16 PM
Ales - do you mean that Revell are bringing out "1/20" scale plastic kits???
RallyRaider
08-25-2005, 05:20 PM
Revell's will be in 1/24th. A better scale IMHO.
Captain Mark
08-25-2005, 05:57 PM
OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *penny drops*
MP4/"20"
I get it now...
Damn I was getting all excited too.
MP4/"20"
I get it now...
Damn I was getting all excited too.
ales
08-25-2005, 11:36 PM
Yeah, could be bothered to tye all the silly letters and numbers Mclaren use to differentiate their cars.
I seem to remember they were going to make the 19, but for some reason there is no information about it anymore on revell.de
Phil, yeah, curbside, but at a fraction of a fraction of the price. I recently got their GA (see, can't be bothered with the full designation either!) and I think it is going to look more that decent when completed. Skill permitting, of course :)
I seem to remember they were going to make the 19, but for some reason there is no information about it anymore on revell.de
Phil, yeah, curbside, but at a fraction of a fraction of the price. I recently got their GA (see, can't be bothered with the full designation either!) and I think it is going to look more that decent when completed. Skill permitting, of course :)
RallyRaider
08-26-2005, 02:59 AM
So you have the GA Alex - I have the Jag!
I agree the kit looks like it will build very well, but take a lot of time and effort.
I agree the kit looks like it will build very well, but take a lot of time and effort.
mickbench
08-26-2005, 04:53 AM
I'd rather have the engine detailed MP4/20 then one that is curbside. Don't get me wrong, I mean curbside, or full engine, as long as these kits get out there it makes no matter. However given the choice I would prefer to have the engine. Just adds to the overall enjoyment of the kit I feel. In essence, if I was going to buy a MP4 /20 F1 kit, and I knew I could complete the Resin kit and could afford it I would take the resin kit.
Get this year out the way, and I might look into buying a Resin Kit and have a go. I'm doing OK ish with the plastic kits, get a few more under my belt first, then have a go with a resin F1 car.
Get this year out the way, and I might look into buying a Resin Kit and have a go. I'm doing OK ish with the plastic kits, get a few more under my belt first, then have a go with a resin F1 car.
RallyRaider
08-26-2005, 04:49 PM
I can see that I'll end up getting both the Revel and Red 5 MP4/20 kits. Of course finding time and inclination to build them both will be something else again.
Main reason is because I can't see the fitment of the metal Red 5 kit being at all good, so the engine cover is unlikely to look right installed. The Revel kit to show of the lines, Red 5 for the innards. :)
Same probably goes for the two promised 307 kits. :screwy:
Main reason is because I can't see the fitment of the metal Red 5 kit being at all good, so the engine cover is unlikely to look right installed. The Revel kit to show of the lines, Red 5 for the innards. :)
Same probably goes for the two promised 307 kits. :screwy:
freakmech
08-26-2005, 06:40 PM
Main reason is because I can't see the fitment of the metal Red 5 kit being at all good, so the engine cover is unlikely to look right installed. The Revel kit to show of the lines, Red 5 for the innards. :)
Phil correct me if im wrong but wouldnt the Revell be a different scale then the Red 5 kit, a kit bash wouldnt work. or do you mean build both for different reasons? sorry im a little confused about this post.
Phil correct me if im wrong but wouldnt the Revell be a different scale then the Red 5 kit, a kit bash wouldnt work. or do you mean build both for different reasons? sorry im a little confused about this post.
RallyRaider
08-27-2005, 08:08 AM
Yes they are different scales. In my imagination I'd build the curbside Revel kit and place it on the 1/24th shelf showing off the sleek viking horned aerodynamics. On another shelf entirely I envision the 1/20th Red 5 kit with everything removed displaying the tightly packaged Mercedes engine. :)
(The year is 2025 :lol:)
(The year is 2025 :lol:)
RallyRaider
11-05-2005, 12:55 AM
MediaMix now have this Red Five McLaren kit in stock!
However, given the price I'm going to have to pass on it. :( I just looked over my Red 5 Jaguar R5 and given that kits shortcomings can't really justify AUS$315 when Revell will be doing a curbside for a tiny fraction of the same cost. Still I'd like to see somebody else take the plunge and build a mini masterpiece of the quickest car of 2005.
However, given the price I'm going to have to pass on it. :( I just looked over my Red 5 Jaguar R5 and given that kits shortcomings can't really justify AUS$315 when Revell will be doing a curbside for a tiny fraction of the same cost. Still I'd like to see somebody else take the plunge and build a mini masterpiece of the quickest car of 2005.
pettercardoso
11-05-2005, 07:24 AM
There are photos of the built thing on their website..
There's been a discussion on f1m about the lack of build quality of the display model:
http://www.redfive.com.br/mp4_20.htm
It looks quite thick at places and the detail is not that great. Also notice the white areas on the West logo decals on the sidepods. The nose is kinda weird and overall I think it's not a great kit (although it can be made so :) )
There's been a discussion on f1m about the lack of build quality of the display model:
http://www.redfive.com.br/mp4_20.htm
It looks quite thick at places and the detail is not that great. Also notice the white areas on the West logo decals on the sidepods. The nose is kinda weird and overall I think it's not a great kit (although it can be made so :) )
mickbench
11-05-2005, 09:16 AM
Well, I guess at this price some will be glad to buy the revell and just try and build it the best they can.. Heck the price of the Revell you can buy two and do some kit bashing etc to try and make a decent F1 car..
And yep, the built up pictures look a bit off.. Is it me, or does it look a little fat.? The nose cone doesn't look too great to me.
And yep, the built up pictures look a bit off.. Is it me, or does it look a little fat.? The nose cone doesn't look too great to me.
RallyRaider
11-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Yes the proportions do seem a bit off. I don't know if we should expect the Revell kit to be much better, although they have improved of late. At 10% of the price the Revell does look the better option to me now. If an engine is a necessity it might be easier to scratchbuild one for the 1/24th Revell rather than clean up all the white metal in the 1/20th Red 5 kit.
Or one could just build a Tamiya MP4/13 for the best of both worlds (would still need to find a fix for those "dotty" decals).
Or one could just build a Tamiya MP4/13 for the best of both worlds (would still need to find a fix for those "dotty" decals).
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