Crazy!
zupster
08-23-2005, 04:23 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/McLaren-F1-GTR-Engine-Cover-BMW-M-POWER-V12-LM-GT_W0QQitemZ4570791424QQcategoryZ10374QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
mad!!!! probably expensive!!!!!
mad!!!! probably expensive!!!!!
Peloton25
08-23-2005, 04:29 PM
What do you mean 'expensive', it's only 0.99£. :lol:
>8^)
ER
>8^)
ER
zupster
08-23-2005, 04:31 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/McLaren-F1-GTR-Engine-Cover-BMW-M-POWER-V12-LM-GT_W0QQitemZ4570791424QQcategoryZ10374QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
mad!!!! probably expensive!!!!!
LOL!!!
is it real?
mad!!!! probably expensive!!!!!
LOL!!!
is it real?
ArchangelGTR
08-23-2005, 05:09 PM
Doh! (In my best Homer Simpson voice) :evillol:
Just when I'm about to go on vacation.
Just when I'm about to go on vacation.
Peloton25
08-23-2005, 05:12 PM
It looks real. So does the gear shifter and the piston/con rod/valve combo he has listed in separate auctions.
It's not really uncommon for stuff like this to show up on Ebay. With the GTRs, there were lots of spare parts over the years.
>8^)
ER
It's not really uncommon for stuff like this to show up on Ebay. With the GTRs, there were lots of spare parts over the years.
>8^)
ER
F1 monster
08-23-2005, 08:55 PM
Strange how the picture shows the "McLaren" at the top right in the actual motor, and it's on the bottom right in the item. The "BMW" is also reversed. Wonder if the other side is the same--they might be different on purpose, to make sure that the correct one is bolted on. Peloton, others....got reference pics for both sides?
ArchangelGTR
08-23-2005, 09:44 PM
Good eye F1. Seems like every reference photo I have is reversed like you noted on pic of the motor.
I looked at both driver and passenger sides of some of the cars and they were positioned the same: Mclaren on the upper right and BMW M Power on the lower left on both sides.
Wonder why this one's different?
I looked at both driver and passenger sides of some of the cars and they were positioned the same: Mclaren on the upper right and BMW M Power on the lower left on both sides.
Wonder why this one's different?
zupster
08-23-2005, 10:13 PM
Good eye F1. Seems like every reference photo I have is reversed like you noted on pic of the motor.
I looked at both driver and passenger sides of some of the cars and they were positioned the same: Mclaren on the upper right and BMW M Power on the lower left on both sides.
Wonde why this one's different?
hmm, weird??? are they different for the variants of mclaren f1? really weird??? ill be bidding anyway!
I looked at both driver and passenger sides of some of the cars and they were positioned the same: Mclaren on the upper right and BMW M Power on the lower left on both sides.
Wonde why this one's different?
hmm, weird??? are they different for the variants of mclaren f1? really weird??? ill be bidding anyway!
Peloton25
08-23-2005, 10:14 PM
I noticed that too, and had the same thoughts that you did - 'maybe the other side was reversed'. I should have gone looking earlier.
I've now gone through every folder of images that I've got and there hasn't been a single F1 engine photographed where the valve cover had matching markings to the one in the Ebay auction. In ALL cases that I have reference on, the "McLaren" logo is ALWAYS on top, and the "BMW M Power" logo is ALWAYS on the bottom on both sides of the engine. Even on the XPs and GTRs that I have reference on it doesn't match. Also on the Noble GTR-based F1 mule, "Edward", which supposedly had the first ever S70/2 V12 fitted, the valve cover I can see is not the same.
Now it does appear the valve covers could be interchangable from left to right, as on the left side of the car the McLaren logo is towards the rear of the engine, and the BMW M Power is towards the front. On the right side of the engine those placements are reversed. Maybe the part isn't reversible though, and they just used the same milling program to cut out the logos, assuming they weren't cast in.
Since there's little chance someone is making these in their spare time - and if someone was you'd think they would get it right - I'm going to guess and say this is an early piece and that McLaren decided they wanted their logo on top. That's all I can think of, but who knows. Someone should ask the seller... ;)
>8^)
ER
I've now gone through every folder of images that I've got and there hasn't been a single F1 engine photographed where the valve cover had matching markings to the one in the Ebay auction. In ALL cases that I have reference on, the "McLaren" logo is ALWAYS on top, and the "BMW M Power" logo is ALWAYS on the bottom on both sides of the engine. Even on the XPs and GTRs that I have reference on it doesn't match. Also on the Noble GTR-based F1 mule, "Edward", which supposedly had the first ever S70/2 V12 fitted, the valve cover I can see is not the same.
Now it does appear the valve covers could be interchangable from left to right, as on the left side of the car the McLaren logo is towards the rear of the engine, and the BMW M Power is towards the front. On the right side of the engine those placements are reversed. Maybe the part isn't reversible though, and they just used the same milling program to cut out the logos, assuming they weren't cast in.
Since there's little chance someone is making these in their spare time - and if someone was you'd think they would get it right - I'm going to guess and say this is an early piece and that McLaren decided they wanted their logo on top. That's all I can think of, but who knows. Someone should ask the seller... ;)
>8^)
ER
SD F1
08-24-2005, 12:43 AM
Hey Peloton, GOt any of those Noble "Mule" shots to share?
Thanks
WG
Thanks
WG
Peloton25
08-24-2005, 02:34 AM
No copy of Driving Ambition on your bookshelf yet? :(
They have a chapter devoted to the cars called "The Heavenly Twins". It's one of my favorites because it offers something you might never know about the F1 development if they had never written the book.
I'll get some up later.
>8^)
ER
They have a chapter devoted to the cars called "The Heavenly Twins". It's one of my favorites because it offers something you might never know about the F1 development if they had never written the book.
I'll get some up later.
>8^)
ER
theflinger
08-24-2005, 09:57 AM
SDF1, Pelo is right. That chapter is a great part of an amazing book. You gotta trust us, it's soooo worth it!!
ArchangelGTR
08-24-2005, 10:36 AM
Anyone and everyone who is interested in the McLaren should own a copy of Driving Ambition :iceslolan It will inform you, it will inspire you.
murraydeschot
08-24-2005, 02:06 PM
Anyone and everyone who is interested in the McLaren should own a copy of Driving Ambition :iceslolan It will inform you, it will inspire you.
Agree wholeheartedly ... was the first guy in Holland (apparently) to own his copy. :)
Agree wholeheartedly ... was the first guy in Holland (apparently) to own his copy. :)
SD F1
08-24-2005, 05:45 PM
OK OK OK I was waiting until I could afford to get the limited edition leather one but I can no longer wait! :loser:
BTW, anyone who has the limited edition leather bound one I would be interested in making you an offer! :1zhelp:
Thanx guys
WG
BTW, anyone who has the limited edition leather bound one I would be interested in making you an offer! :1zhelp:
Thanx guys
WG
F1 monster
08-24-2005, 06:33 PM
Have any of the limited editions ever been on the market except from McLaren? Did they sell for more or less than the original price? I would think anyone buying one of those would pass it on to their heirs.
Peloton25
08-25-2005, 04:22 PM
I've never seen one of the Ltd Edtn Driving Ambitions listed on Ebay. The place to sell one would probably be a motoring auction put on by Christies, Bonhams, Coys or the like.
A hard cover version of the F1 launch brochure just sold for 410£ though:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/bb/c5/38_1_b.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5232230404) <-- Clickable
Yowsa!! :22yikes:
>8^)
ER
A hard cover version of the F1 launch brochure just sold for 410£ though:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/bb/c5/38_1_b.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5232230404) <-- Clickable
Yowsa!! :22yikes:
>8^)
ER
zupster
08-26-2005, 02:48 PM
I've never seen one of the Ltd Edtn Driving Ambitions listed on Ebay. The place to sell one would probably be a motoring auction put on by Christies, Bonhams, Coys or the like.
A hard cover version of the F1 launch brochure just sold for 410£ though:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/bb/c5/38_1_b.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5232230404) <-- Clickable
Yowsa!! :22yikes:
>8^)
ER
just checked the auction for the engine part.
guy reckons you can take those bits off, someone has asked the seller a question about it!
anyone from in here who done it?
p.s. i have a driving ambition special edition!!!
A hard cover version of the F1 launch brochure just sold for 410£ though:
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/bb/c5/38_1_b.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5232230404) <-- Clickable
Yowsa!! :22yikes:
>8^)
ER
just checked the auction for the engine part.
guy reckons you can take those bits off, someone has asked the seller a question about it!
anyone from in here who done it?
p.s. i have a driving ambition special edition!!!
PatrickT82
08-26-2005, 03:10 PM
whats the difference of the limited edition with the normal driving ambition?
Peloton25
08-26-2005, 03:11 PM
Interesting - I would have never guessed those pieces were removable.
Can you tell me about your copy of the special edition of Driving Ambition? Comparing it to the normal version, what do the additional ~130 pages include?
>8^)
ER
Can you tell me about your copy of the special edition of Driving Ambition? Comparing it to the normal version, what do the additional ~130 pages include?
>8^)
ER
zupster
08-26-2005, 08:01 PM
Interesting - I would have never guessed those pieces were removable.
Can you tell me about your copy of the special edition of Driving Ambition? Comparing it to the normal version, what do the additional ~130 pages include?
>8^)
ER
yer, thats what i thought, like the cover is one piece or sumin?
im a little confused as whether or not to bid?
Let me dig it out driving ambition, and take some pics for you! i might even try to scan some pages in, depends on how lazy i am on the day!!!
give me a day or so, and ill get some images on here for you!
Can you tell me about your copy of the special edition of Driving Ambition? Comparing it to the normal version, what do the additional ~130 pages include?
>8^)
ER
yer, thats what i thought, like the cover is one piece or sumin?
im a little confused as whether or not to bid?
Let me dig it out driving ambition, and take some pics for you! i might even try to scan some pages in, depends on how lazy i am on the day!!!
give me a day or so, and ill get some images on here for you!
SD F1
08-27-2005, 06:35 AM
p.s. i have a driving ambition special edition!!!
Just curious...it was never called "special edition". It is and was issued as a "limited edition", Hand-crafted by order, Connoly Leather (like my Range Rover and I have to say that is great leather) covered, 400 page, "Hand bound" edition at $600 (+/- 50) pounds when offered. It was delivered or held for pickup at the factory complete with a Chassis plate, a tour invitation and 2 other collectibles.
How did you come by this item? Do you wish to part with it? Please PM the price.
Regards
WG
Just curious...it was never called "special edition". It is and was issued as a "limited edition", Hand-crafted by order, Connoly Leather (like my Range Rover and I have to say that is great leather) covered, 400 page, "Hand bound" edition at $600 (+/- 50) pounds when offered. It was delivered or held for pickup at the factory complete with a Chassis plate, a tour invitation and 2 other collectibles.
How did you come by this item? Do you wish to part with it? Please PM the price.
Regards
WG
zupster
08-28-2005, 05:24 AM
No copy of Driving Ambition on your bookshelf yet? :(
They have a chapter devoted to the cars called "The Heavenly Twins". It's one of my favorites because it offers something you might never know about the F1 development if they had never written the book.
I'll get some up later.
>8^)
ER
To all those who dont have the driving ambition yet, and want to purchase it on the cheap, buy it from here!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/great-book-on-McLAREN-F1-car-Mint-book_W0QQitemZ6556812398QQcategoryZ48442QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem
i have never seen it so cheap! how can people even sell it at such a price!!!
They have a chapter devoted to the cars called "The Heavenly Twins". It's one of my favorites because it offers something you might never know about the F1 development if they had never written the book.
I'll get some up later.
>8^)
ER
To all those who dont have the driving ambition yet, and want to purchase it on the cheap, buy it from here!!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/great-book-on-McLAREN-F1-car-Mint-book_W0QQitemZ6556812398QQcategoryZ48442QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem
i have never seen it so cheap! how can people even sell it at such a price!!!
zupster
08-30-2005, 02:39 PM
What do you mean 'expensive', it's only 0.99£. :lol:
>8^)
ER
hey peloton, it really is expensive now!
i really wanted to bid, i cant bid that much :-( i dont have enough monies!!!!
i think the title for this thread actually is true now
>8^)
ER
hey peloton, it really is expensive now!
i really wanted to bid, i cant bid that much :-( i dont have enough monies!!!!
i think the title for this thread actually is true now
ArchangelGTR
08-30-2005, 03:01 PM
Once he clarified the logo's were interchangeable, it opened the flood gates. There are people bidding that I don't normally see bidding. We'll have to see if the BentleyBoyz spoil anything once again.
Peloton25
08-30-2005, 03:18 PM
I saw the other day that BentleyBoyz was no longer a registered user. No worries though - he/she/it has several other Ebay identities. :shakehead :screwy:
When I told Gordon about the F1 pedal set that sold on Ebay for around $1000, he stated that person had gotten quite the deal as those parts cost McLaren quite a bit more than $1000 to produce for the car.
>8^)
ER
When I told Gordon about the F1 pedal set that sold on Ebay for around $1000, he stated that person had gotten quite the deal as those parts cost McLaren quite a bit more than $1000 to produce for the car.
>8^)
ER
zupster
08-30-2005, 03:37 PM
I saw the other day that BentleyBoyz was no longer a registered user. No worries though - he/she/it has several other Ebay identities. :shakehead :screwy:
When I told Gordon about the F1 pedal set that sold on Ebay for around $1000, he stated that person had gotten quite the deal as those parts cost McLaren quite a bit more than $1000 to produce for the car.
>8^)
ER
well, im not going to get a loan, or spend my life savings on some mclaren pieces of art, but i wish good luck to anyone with enough dough to blow!!!
what pedal was on ebay? who was selling it? bentleyboyz???
When I told Gordon about the F1 pedal set that sold on Ebay for around $1000, he stated that person had gotten quite the deal as those parts cost McLaren quite a bit more than $1000 to produce for the car.
>8^)
ER
well, im not going to get a loan, or spend my life savings on some mclaren pieces of art, but i wish good luck to anyone with enough dough to blow!!!
what pedal was on ebay? who was selling it? bentleyboyz???
peter i
08-30-2005, 03:47 PM
wohoo!!! This is too much, remind me of the classic Ferrari F1 engine and body parts for sale......
ArchangelGTR
08-30-2005, 03:51 PM
No. The BentleyBoyz just seem to always come in at the last second and outbid everyone.
zupster
08-30-2005, 03:53 PM
No. The BentleyBoyz just seem to always come in at the last second and outbid everyone.
i think people are mad. £385.00 the engine bit sold for.
still gearknob and piston pieces to go!
nutters!!!
i think people are mad. £385.00 the engine bit sold for.
still gearknob and piston pieces to go!
nutters!!!
Peloton25
08-30-2005, 04:56 PM
what pedal was on ebay? who was selling it?
Someone sold the gas, brake and clutch pedals from an F1 on Ebay. I don't recall who the seller was, but I believe the winner may have been terry3000me for roughly $1000 USD. My bid on those was about $200 too short. :(
>8^)
ER
Someone sold the gas, brake and clutch pedals from an F1 on Ebay. I don't recall who the seller was, but I believe the winner may have been terry3000me for roughly $1000 USD. My bid on those was about $200 too short. :(
>8^)
ER
zupster
08-30-2005, 05:01 PM
Someone sold the gas, brake and clutch pedals from an F1 on Ebay. I don't recall who the seller was, but I believe the winner may have been terry3000me for roughly $1000 USD. My bid on those was about $200 too short. :(
>8^)
ER
too bad. my bid wouldnt have been about $950 short!!!!!
does anybody have interesting mclaren pieces here? i would love a f1 seat!
+ i would trade an arm and a leg for one if anyone is interested!!!!
>8^)
ER
too bad. my bid wouldnt have been about $950 short!!!!!
does anybody have interesting mclaren pieces here? i would love a f1 seat!
+ i would trade an arm and a leg for one if anyone is interested!!!!
ArchangelGTR
08-30-2005, 05:18 PM
You'd have to trade more than that. :iceslolan The last time I saw a GTR seat for sale anywhere was back in 98 from the 96 Gulf car. Same car I've been getting most of my parts from. I regret not getting it back then. :crying: It was going for $1200 plus freight. I'm sure someone can fetch a pretty penny for it now.. with all the collectors coming out of the woodworks.
zupster
08-30-2005, 05:23 PM
You'd have to trade more than that. :iceslolan The last time I saw a GTR seat for sale anywhere was back in 98 from the 96 Gulf car. Same car I've been getting most of my parts from. I regret not getting it back then. :crying: It was going for $1200 plus freight. I'm sure someone can fetch a pretty penny for it now.. with all the collectors coming out of the woodworks.
well im no millionaire! but i would have paid that for it if it was for sale and i knew about it!
what have you got from a mclaren? you say 96 gtr gulf livery? you must be a big enthusiast!
well im no millionaire! but i would have paid that for it if it was for sale and i knew about it!
what have you got from a mclaren? you say 96 gtr gulf livery? you must be a big enthusiast!
jcsaleen
08-31-2005, 10:28 AM
What! only 385 Euro's aka 385 x 1.6 = Usd price (too lazy to do the math) Not alot for a legend....
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