civic vs SSS (b16a vs sr20de)
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incoming
05-05-2002, 09:53 PM
hehe
i can add another notch to my belt!!!
standing start, we both had good launches... no wheel spins just traction!!!...
well i'd have to say that was one of my better runs cos there was no wheel spin and vtec kicked in within the 1st 15m,... i was pretty surprised cos i was infront the whole time and pulled him by two car lengths and getting further!! ahahah
he said he had done his driveline in his SSS and he got it back about a week eariler...
my friend with his MY02 wrx wants to race for fun... i know ill get my ass kicked but i wana see by how much heehe
i can add another notch to my belt!!!
standing start, we both had good launches... no wheel spins just traction!!!...
well i'd have to say that was one of my better runs cos there was no wheel spin and vtec kicked in within the 1st 15m,... i was pretty surprised cos i was infront the whole time and pulled him by two car lengths and getting further!! ahahah
he said he had done his driveline in his SSS and he got it back about a week eariler...
my friend with his MY02 wrx wants to race for fun... i know ill get my ass kicked but i wana see by how much heehe
Moppie
05-05-2002, 10:10 PM
What sort of SSS?
If it was a Bluebird then there was no race in it. Even an old crappy VTi could take one of those.
If it was an early SR20 powered Sentra (circa 1990) then thats not a bad kill. And it certinaly counts. If it was a later one, then well unforunatly they got heavier and slower, and so the race becomes easier and easier.
If it was a Bluebird then there was no race in it. Even an old crappy VTi could take one of those.
If it was an early SR20 powered Sentra (circa 1990) then thats not a bad kill. And it certinaly counts. If it was a later one, then well unforunatly they got heavier and slower, and so the race becomes easier and easier.
incoming
05-06-2002, 01:47 AM
Originally posted by Moppie
What sort of SSS?
If it was a Bluebird then there was no race in it. Even an old crappy VTi could take one of those.
If it was an early SR20 powered Sentra (circa 1990) then thats not a bad kill. And it certinaly counts. If it was a later one, then well unforunatly they got heavier and slower, and so the race becomes easier and easier.
it was a nissan pulsar SSS, umm.... it was a aussie model not the jap.
its a 5 door hatch, like the nissan pulsar gti-r but 5 door heheh with out the turbo/bonnet...
certainly looks better (to me anyhow)
What sort of SSS?
If it was a Bluebird then there was no race in it. Even an old crappy VTi could take one of those.
If it was an early SR20 powered Sentra (circa 1990) then thats not a bad kill. And it certinaly counts. If it was a later one, then well unforunatly they got heavier and slower, and so the race becomes easier and easier.
it was a nissan pulsar SSS, umm.... it was a aussie model not the jap.
its a 5 door hatch, like the nissan pulsar gti-r but 5 door heheh with out the turbo/bonnet...
certainly looks better (to me anyhow)
Setanta
05-06-2002, 05:04 AM
Not wanting to burst your bubble or anything, but beating an Aussie spec SSS (or most Aussie 4s for that matter) isn't much to write home about :D
Nailing a rotary, turbo or 8 in a NA Honda maybe, but that's about it ;)
Nailing a rotary, turbo or 8 in a NA Honda maybe, but that's about it ;)
Integra-F20C
05-06-2002, 05:16 AM
SR20DE without turbo = DIE!
jOYRiDe
05-06-2002, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Setanta
Not wanting to burst your bubble or anything, but beating an Aussie spec SSS (or most Aussie 4s for that matter) isn't much to write home about :D
Nailing a rotary, turbo or 8 in a NA Honda maybe, but that's about it ;) yeah thats true!! hahaha give it to him setanta
:devil:
Not wanting to burst your bubble or anything, but beating an Aussie spec SSS (or most Aussie 4s for that matter) isn't much to write home about :D
Nailing a rotary, turbo or 8 in a NA Honda maybe, but that's about it ;) yeah thats true!! hahaha give it to him setanta
:devil:
Moppie
05-07-2002, 03:41 AM
Well the NZ spec 1990ish SSS Sentra had 160hp, same as my car, but the SSS is a lot heavier, and the SR20 DOES NOT like to rev.
In fact compared to the B16a its very very agricultural.
However the next model I believe only had the standard 140hp, same as all the other SR20 cars. = SLOW!
In fact compared to the B16a its very very agricultural.
However the next model I believe only had the standard 140hp, same as all the other SR20 cars. = SLOW!
spunkymunky
05-07-2002, 11:10 PM
i had about 4 runs with a my01 wrx the other night... very interesting.
he absolutely killed me twice (mad fwd traction).
but i noticed he didn't seem to be pulling.
then he bogged it, so i got about 1/2 a car off the launch. he didn't draw level with me until about the end of third gear... maybe 140km/h or so.
he had a loud-as exhaust system and bov.
i'm basically stock. i was feeling pretty chuffed after that.
the rest of the runs weren't so interesting as we kept getting stuck behind other cars... damn epping road traffic.
he absolutely killed me twice (mad fwd traction).
but i noticed he didn't seem to be pulling.
then he bogged it, so i got about 1/2 a car off the launch. he didn't draw level with me until about the end of third gear... maybe 140km/h or so.
he had a loud-as exhaust system and bov.
i'm basically stock. i was feeling pretty chuffed after that.
the rest of the runs weren't so interesting as we kept getting stuck behind other cars... damn epping road traffic.
TOYVTi
05-07-2002, 11:28 PM
wat do u drive man?
Spunkymonkey
05-08-2002, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by spunkymunky
i had about 4 runs with a my01 wrx the other night... very interesting.
he absolutely killed me twice (mad fwd traction).
but i noticed he didn't seem to be pulling.
then he bogged it, so i got about 1/2 a car off the launch. he didn't draw level with me until about the end of third gear... maybe 140km/h or so.
he had a loud-as exhaust system and bov.
i'm basically stock. i was feeling pretty chuffed after that.
the rest of the runs weren't so interesting as we kept getting stuck behind other cars... damn epping road traffic.
140km isn't the end of third gear :p
I should know... I hit it the other day ;) closer to 175 - 180 :p
i had about 4 runs with a my01 wrx the other night... very interesting.
he absolutely killed me twice (mad fwd traction).
but i noticed he didn't seem to be pulling.
then he bogged it, so i got about 1/2 a car off the launch. he didn't draw level with me until about the end of third gear... maybe 140km/h or so.
he had a loud-as exhaust system and bov.
i'm basically stock. i was feeling pretty chuffed after that.
the rest of the runs weren't so interesting as we kept getting stuck behind other cars... damn epping road traffic.
140km isn't the end of third gear :p
I should know... I hit it the other day ;) closer to 175 - 180 :p
Spunkymonkey
05-08-2002, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by TOYVTi
wat do u drive man?
he drives integra...same model as mine, and your old one :)
wat do u drive man?
he drives integra...same model as mine, and your old one :)
Ssom
05-09-2002, 03:21 AM
the b16a is the DOHC VTEC like in Moppies car right????????????????
if that is the case, the thought of an SR20DE even trying to keep up with one is completely ludicrous
if that is the case, the thought of an SR20DE even trying to keep up with one is completely ludicrous
Moppie
05-09-2002, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi
.........................if that is the case, the thought of an SR20DE even trying to keep up with one is completely ludicrous
The Boy learns quickly.
He must be watched and trained in the ways of the Honda before the power of the Euro Side gets to him. For I also feel that it is strong with in him.
.........................if that is the case, the thought of an SR20DE even trying to keep up with one is completely ludicrous
The Boy learns quickly.
He must be watched and trained in the ways of the Honda before the power of the Euro Side gets to him. For I also feel that it is strong with in him.
Ssom
05-09-2002, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by Moppie
The Boy learns quickly.
He must be watched and trained in the ways of the Honda before the power of the Euro Side gets to him. For I also feel that it is strong with in him.
yaya:D
There is no need all-mighty respected elder, I come from a family that, until recently has been 100% VTEC Honda drivers (Jimmy and my Dad are still the only traitors)
The Boy learns quickly.
He must be watched and trained in the ways of the Honda before the power of the Euro Side gets to him. For I also feel that it is strong with in him.
yaya:D
There is no need all-mighty respected elder, I come from a family that, until recently has been 100% VTEC Honda drivers (Jimmy and my Dad are still the only traitors)
Moppie
05-09-2002, 03:39 AM
Originally posted by Moss1O6GTi
yaya
There is no need all-mighty respected elder, I come from a family.............................
There is no Yaya here my child. Only powered by Honda. :cool:
And do not heed the words of the Euro ones, for they are followers of the Euro side, and do not know the goodness of the Honda.
They live on name only, a name that has lost its greatness and relys on the badge enginering and the Marketing to lie to the people.
Only the Honda stands strong and independant, and builds greatness that needs no false marketing.
yaya
There is no need all-mighty respected elder, I come from a family.............................
There is no Yaya here my child. Only powered by Honda. :cool:
And do not heed the words of the Euro ones, for they are followers of the Euro side, and do not know the goodness of the Honda.
They live on name only, a name that has lost its greatness and relys on the badge enginering and the Marketing to lie to the people.
Only the Honda stands strong and independant, and builds greatness that needs no false marketing.
spunkymunky
05-10-2002, 09:22 AM
hehehe..
.. no 180 is getting near to the end of 4th gear if not right on the end of 4th.
2nd will hit about 110, 3rd is good for roughly 140-160
.. no 180 is getting near to the end of 4th gear if not right on the end of 4th.
2nd will hit about 110, 3rd is good for roughly 140-160
Spunkymonkey
05-10-2002, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by spunkymunky
hehehe..
.. no 180 is getting near to the end of 4th gear if not right on the end of 4th.
2nd will hit about 110, 3rd is good for roughly 140-160
hehehe :p
well I was in 3rd overtaking a semi trailer, another truck and a SAAB on picton rd, and 3rd cut out just after 170 - 180 :p
changed to 4th then, and it was fine :p
hehehe..
.. no 180 is getting near to the end of 4th gear if not right on the end of 4th.
2nd will hit about 110, 3rd is good for roughly 140-160
hehehe :p
well I was in 3rd overtaking a semi trailer, another truck and a SAAB on picton rd, and 3rd cut out just after 170 - 180 :p
changed to 4th then, and it was fine :p
Setanta
05-10-2002, 09:33 AM
hmmm... second on the SiR is good for 100-102, third runs out to 140 and 4th heads upwards but I usually upshift at that stage. Only run up to 180 once and then the speed limiter cut in and scared me - thought I'd broken something - same the first time I'd bounced off the rev limiter.
Spunkymonkey
05-10-2002, 09:39 AM
You do realise that I dropped to 3rd from 4th, as the SAAB was going less than 80km in a 100 zone, and I already had to drop from 5th, cause it felt like "chug chug".
Only reason I let it go that long, was cause I was overtaking those 3 on the wrong side of the road, down a hill, and I just caught a glimpse of a car coming around the corner.
Only reason I let it go that long, was cause I was overtaking those 3 on the wrong side of the road, down a hill, and I just caught a glimpse of a car coming around the corner.
Setanta
05-10-2002, 09:47 AM
heheh - beats the truck/downshift/brakes/ nip in front of the commodore manouver :devil:
Spunkymonkey
05-10-2002, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
heheh - beats the truck/downshift/brakes/ nip in front of the commodore manouver :devil:
Bugger..cause of the server problem...lost my post.
I was saying:
you still haven't gotten over that have you? :p
my record is 5 on the opposite side of the road - did that twice (one of those instances that included 2 semitrailers) this was in the civic :p
doesn't beat Lang's 7 though...in her old GL.
heheh - beats the truck/downshift/brakes/ nip in front of the commodore manouver :devil:
Bugger..cause of the server problem...lost my post.
I was saying:
you still haven't gotten over that have you? :p
my record is 5 on the opposite side of the road - did that twice (one of those instances that included 2 semitrailers) this was in the civic :p
doesn't beat Lang's 7 though...in her old GL.
spunkymunky
05-10-2002, 10:13 AM
did about 10 cars in one go on the road to forster... in dad's old car which i borrowed for a road trip ;) nothing like a v8 bruiser for country road overtaking.
Moppie
05-11-2002, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by Setanta
hmmm... second on the SiR is good for 100-102, third runs out to 140 and 4th heads upwards
Well If you've still got the Y1 the factory fitted then:
1st is about 60kph. (good to drop into it at 50 to pass really slow cars. :D )
2nd will go to about 105kph
3rd goes to about 150kph
4th to about 185kph
and 5th is 242kph.
hmmm... second on the SiR is good for 100-102, third runs out to 140 and 4th heads upwards
Well If you've still got the Y1 the factory fitted then:
1st is about 60kph. (good to drop into it at 50 to pass really slow cars. :D )
2nd will go to about 105kph
3rd goes to about 150kph
4th to about 185kph
and 5th is 242kph.
Spunkymonkey
05-11-2002, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Moppie
Well If you've still got the Y1 the factory fitted then:
1st is about 60kph. (good to drop into it at 50 to pass really slow cars. :D )
2nd will go to about 105kph
3rd goes to about 150kph
4th to about 185kph
and 5th is 242kph.
Do you know from testing your car out Moppie? :D
Well If you've still got the Y1 the factory fitted then:
1st is about 60kph. (good to drop into it at 50 to pass really slow cars. :D )
2nd will go to about 105kph
3rd goes to about 150kph
4th to about 185kph
and 5th is 242kph.
Do you know from testing your car out Moppie? :D
Setanta
05-11-2002, 09:07 PM
Yeah - still the Y1 in there moppie, but I normally shift at 8K, I hate it when I misjudge 8200 and the rev limiter kicks in :D
Moppie
05-11-2002, 09:30 PM
Thats why you shift at 8,190 :finger:
Spunkymonkey
05-11-2002, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by Moppie
Thats why you shift at 8,190 :finger:
LOL...thats one thing I miss without my vtec controller....digital read out of rpms :p
Thats why you shift at 8,190 :finger:
LOL...thats one thing I miss without my vtec controller....digital read out of rpms :p
Setanta
05-12-2002, 03:30 AM
You have time to read a digital display between shifts??? :bloated:
Moppie
05-12-2002, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
You have time to read a digital display between shifts??? :bloated:
You have time to even look at the tach? :rolleyes:
The Civic is only the 2nd car Iv ever owned with a working tach, and the only car with an accurate tach in it. So although I use it occasionaly I have learned to drive almost intierly be feel.
I can feel exactly when the engine is at just the right shift point, (Which is just before it hits the limiter ;) ). So I very really thit he limiter, but I am very good at timing my shifts at just the right point. (especialy the 2-3 shift, very important for passing.)
You have time to read a digital display between shifts??? :bloated:
You have time to even look at the tach? :rolleyes:
The Civic is only the 2nd car Iv ever owned with a working tach, and the only car with an accurate tach in it. So although I use it occasionaly I have learned to drive almost intierly be feel.
I can feel exactly when the engine is at just the right shift point, (Which is just before it hits the limiter ;) ). So I very really thit he limiter, but I am very good at timing my shifts at just the right point. (especialy the 2-3 shift, very important for passing.)
Spunkymonkey
05-12-2002, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
You have time to read a digital display between shifts??? :bloated:
hahaha....
I could set it to beep at a certain RPM range...which was handy, then I used to just wait for the beep. It took a while to get used to checking the tacho every once in the while....
Hehehe....this is my first car that has had a tacho, the civic didn't.
You have time to read a digital display between shifts??? :bloated:
hahaha....
I could set it to beep at a certain RPM range...which was handy, then I used to just wait for the beep. It took a while to get used to checking the tacho every once in the while....
Hehehe....this is my first car that has had a tacho, the civic didn't.
Spunkymonkey
05-12-2002, 05:17 AM
Yeah, its a combo of engine/exhaust noise for me.....its totally different in the vtir civic though...its so quiet, you forget your speeding half the time :p
in answer to your question Setanta.... the teg is about 3400 rpms @ 110km. Drove through Stanwell, coastline to the gong tonight :)
in answer to your question Setanta.... the teg is about 3400 rpms @ 110km. Drove through Stanwell, coastline to the gong tonight :)
Setanta
05-12-2002, 05:21 AM
Thought so - about 600-700 rpm less than the SiR :)
Spunkymonkey
05-12-2002, 05:33 AM
got stuck behind a 4wd on the Lawrence Hargrave Drive....with the falling rock section...doing 40.....hmmm...fun
dam...that is the best part of that drive too :p
couldn't have fun on the bends :(
but soon overtook him afterwards....feel sorry for the 4 or so cars stuck behind....
Hmmm....probably be the same if I encountered Mr T's boat :p
dam...that is the best part of that drive too :p
couldn't have fun on the bends :(
but soon overtook him afterwards....feel sorry for the 4 or so cars stuck behind....
Hmmm....probably be the same if I encountered Mr T's boat :p
Setanta
05-12-2002, 07:49 AM
As long as there's no calling out "ahoy there Captain Feathersword" as you zip past :D
Spunkymonkey
05-12-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Setanta
As long as there's no calling out "ahoy there Captain Feathersword" as you zip past :D
LOL :p
As long as there's no calling out "ahoy there Captain Feathersword" as you zip past :D
LOL :p
spunkymunky
05-14-2002, 01:09 PM
<on another note>
muahaha :bandit:
i tested it out tonight, 3rd gear gets me to 148-149km/h when just about to headbutt the rev limiter. 180 is more like the top of 4th!
muahaha :bandit:
i tested it out tonight, 3rd gear gets me to 148-149km/h when just about to headbutt the rev limiter. 180 is more like the top of 4th!
Spunkymonkey
05-14-2002, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by spunkymunky
<on another note>
muahaha :bandit:
i tested it out tonight, 3rd gear gets me to 148-149km/h when just about to headbutt the rev limiter. 180 is more like the top of 4th!
I was close to 160 when it was about to redline the other day. Think I was closer to 170 when it cut out the other time, I was driving down hill though. But like I said it was extreme "whoops"
<on another note>
muahaha :bandit:
i tested it out tonight, 3rd gear gets me to 148-149km/h when just about to headbutt the rev limiter. 180 is more like the top of 4th!
I was close to 160 when it was about to redline the other day. Think I was closer to 170 when it cut out the other time, I was driving down hill though. But like I said it was extreme "whoops"
spunkymunky
05-14-2002, 09:32 PM
are you a betting kind of lady?? :p
Spunkymonkey
05-14-2002, 09:35 PM
:p
although other factors involved... like my eye sight :p
speedo...etc :p
although other factors involved... like my eye sight :p
speedo...etc :p
incoming
05-14-2002, 11:56 PM
hey u guys... stop tearing up my thread!
it was about a civic vs SSS not teg vs teg!!! haha:flipa:
it was about a civic vs SSS not teg vs teg!!! haha:flipa:
Setanta
05-15-2002, 05:55 AM
but your thread was determined to be a no-kill as a 2yo on a trike could beat a SSS :D
Besides, monkey 1 and munky 2 got thread locked before so they are whoring it up here now :p
Of course, put the SiR and a certain nutty VTiR into the equation and I have a feeling there would be at least one embaressed 'teg ;p
Besides, monkey 1 and munky 2 got thread locked before so they are whoring it up here now :p
Of course, put the SiR and a certain nutty VTiR into the equation and I have a feeling there would be at least one embaressed 'teg ;p
spunkymunky
05-15-2002, 07:16 AM
speaking of whoring..... (here we go again) lately i've been dragging with some very fast machinery. i guess that makes me a drag whore.
or not.
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every car i pull up next to i want to run!!
or not.
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every car i pull up next to i want to run!!
spunkymunky
05-15-2002, 07:18 AM
maybe drag slut is closer to the truth
Spunkymonkey
05-15-2002, 07:19 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
but your thread was determined to be a no-kill as a 2yo on a trike could beat a SSS :D
Besides, monkey 1 and munky 2 got thread locked before so they are whoring it up here now :p
Of course, put the SiR and a certain nutty VTiR into the equation and I have a feeling there would be at least one embaressed 'teg ;p
I still haven't raced my sis yet Pete :p
but I beat my cousins coupe.... besides I don't drive around when many cars are about.
but your thread was determined to be a no-kill as a 2yo on a trike could beat a SSS :D
Besides, monkey 1 and munky 2 got thread locked before so they are whoring it up here now :p
Of course, put the SiR and a certain nutty VTiR into the equation and I have a feeling there would be at least one embaressed 'teg ;p
I still haven't raced my sis yet Pete :p
but I beat my cousins coupe.... besides I don't drive around when many cars are about.
Setanta
05-16-2002, 04:02 AM
Pfft - coupes are built in the US and are shonky to start off with. Not to mention they weigh a bit more than a 'teg :p
They look nice though :) Drop in a B18 and they would be the bomb.
They look nice though :) Drop in a B18 and they would be the bomb.
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by spunkymunky
maybe drag slut is closer to the truth
Missed your posts before.
Hmmmmm....how should we take that :p
maybe drag slut is closer to the truth
Missed your posts before.
Hmmmmm....how should we take that :p
Setanta
05-16-2002, 04:36 AM
So what kind of dress does a "drag slut" wear and what were you doing during the Mardi Gras? :finger:
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 04:40 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
So what kind of dress does a "drag slut" wear and what were you doing during the Mardi Gras? :finger:
LOL :p
So what kind of dress does a "drag slut" wear and what were you doing during the Mardi Gras? :finger:
LOL :p
spunkymunky
05-16-2002, 04:44 AM
careful!!
or i'll have to whip out mah great big cock and smack you over the head with it and give you all amnesia.:frog:
or i'll have to whip out mah great big cock and smack you over the head with it and give you all amnesia.:frog:
Setanta
05-16-2002, 04:50 AM
You're taking your large male chicken out of WHERE?????! :finger:
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
You're taking your large male chicken out of WHERE?????! :finger:
NO WONDER.....the chicken didn't cross the road!!!! :D
You're taking your large male chicken out of WHERE?????! :finger:
NO WONDER.....the chicken didn't cross the road!!!! :D
Setanta
05-16-2002, 04:56 AM
[tries to restrain himself]
[fails]
I guess it answers the question as to which came first - it wasn't the egg :D
[fails]
I guess it answers the question as to which came first - it wasn't the egg :D
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Setanta
[tries to restrain himself]
[fails]
I guess it answers the question as to which came first - it wasn't the egg :D
HAHAHA......ROFLMAO :hehehe:
[tries to restrain himself]
[fails]
I guess it answers the question as to which came first - it wasn't the egg :D
HAHAHA......ROFLMAO :hehehe:
spunkymunky
05-16-2002, 05:15 AM
it's ALL going to end in tears.:cry:
Setanta
05-16-2002, 05:22 AM
Perhaps you should use more lubricant? :devil:
T x 2
05-16-2002, 05:29 AM
hmmmm..... dont know what to think about those last few reply's....
This thread sure did jump from one subject to another :rolleyes:
This thread sure did jump from one subject to another :rolleyes:
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 05:33 AM
Originally posted by T x 2
hmmmm..... dont know what to think about those last few reply's....
This thread sure did jump from one subject to another :rolleyes:
You should know Deb...nothing new :p
hmmmm..... dont know what to think about those last few reply's....
This thread sure did jump from one subject to another :rolleyes:
You should know Deb...nothing new :p
T x 2
05-16-2002, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Spunkymonkey
You should know Deb...nothing new :p
yeh... the only thing is, I dont think I would like to know, seeing in that last reply the word lubricant... sort of turned me off... :p
I will call you later tonight :)
You should know Deb...nothing new :p
yeh... the only thing is, I dont think I would like to know, seeing in that last reply the word lubricant... sort of turned me off... :p
I will call you later tonight :)
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by T x 2
yeh... the only thing is, I dont think I would like to know, seeing in that last reply the word lubricant... sort of turned me off... :p
I will call you later tonight :)
OK :D
yeh... the only thing is, I dont think I would like to know, seeing in that last reply the word lubricant... sort of turned me off... :p
I will call you later tonight :)
OK :D
Spunkymonkey
05-16-2002, 05:44 AM
This thread will make everyone think twice before they eat chicken again! :p
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