This guy is really crazy

http://www.studiojc.idv.tw/crazymodeler/crazymodeler.htm

I found that most products are very similar/exactly same as others such as Studio 27, Tabu design, Renaissance, Laubak, MSM Creation...etc.
I know he's a member in AF. If you are Crazy Modeler, please stop copying other company's products.:nono:

well... i'm Chinese, but i can't read it... :( .

but if what henry says is true... then stop. just stop.

now thats lame!

Seems so wrong..but I'm so cheap...but knockoff decals..Hmmm..ahh..no! But:wink:..no.. :nono: Bad bad man!

I don't understand what the problem is- so what if S27, etc. has put out a decal set? Why should that mean that another company shouldn't put out a set of the same subject as well?

Do we whine when Tamiya and RoG both release an Enzo or 360? Is it any different?

well i'm a bit confused myself, but henry says that they are almost, if not, exact copies.

Well, you can compare these images

http://www.msmcreation.com/images/msmt002a.JPG
http://www.studiojc.idv.tw/crazymodeler/DC67.jpg
If he draw his own the art work, it'll be fne, just like Tamiya & Revell design their mold to make the same model car. Obviously this is not the case. He just copy the artwork from others and even the distribution of the graphics on the paper is the same :rolleyes:.....sigh

True, it does look suspiciously like a copy of the artwork. This is definately wrong, then, and of course illegal. Idealy, international copywright law should deal with this, however it is notoriously poorly enforced in China.

lol man... no offense to him but he isn't too smart. way to make a decal sheet with the same art in the exact same positioning as the original.

i agree - a patent or copyright in china is worthless..
But also I dont think tamiya, fujimi etc..would own the rights to say the shell logo, unless it is an officially licensed product.

Who makes the photoetch hood pin set?

i wonder if crazymodeler is reading this thread... that would be pretty rofl.

or we should just have everyone PM him and tell him to stop copying stuff that others work hard to make.

How would you copy someone's photoetch sheets?

Seems like we are just giving the guy publicity, as of right now 417 people have seen his site and have become potential customers. Unless he is copying your work or someone else that is a member here then just ignor him and let the companies he is ripping off worry about him.

:owned: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I've purchased from him on Ebay with no problems !

Well, you can compare these images

http://www.msmcreation.com/images/msmt002a.JPG
http://www.studiojc.idv.tw/crazymodeler/DC67.jpg
If he draw his own the art work, it'll be fne, just like Tamiya & Revell design their mold to make the same model car. Obviously this is not the case. He just copy the artwork from others and even the distribution of the graphics on the paper is the same :rolleyes:.....sigh

Regardless, its not exactly stealing someone else's work. He would still have to do his own artwork, which takes many hours, or commission someone to do it which costs quite alot - this is what S27 do anyway so they don't own the artwork. On top of that there are the manufacturing costs involved. So, he's not exactly making a profit on the back of others when he's forking out for the cost himself, its not the same as bumping off mine of S27's resin kits.

Also its quite possible that he has commissioned the same guy who does S27 stuff to do his. I know for a fact that he will happily give you the artwork for a decal set commission by S27 and just rearrange it for you, its his work afterall.

So what if he copied it - if it's cheaper then fairplay!
Do you actually enjoy paying high prices?
It's about time that someone with the ability to produce decals used it to help others instead of hogging it!

Good luck to the guy!

Good luck to him!

If I could only figure out how to order :D

I actually don't mind he doing copies. He may need to more efforts to made his copy from my tiny logos on the decal sheet, which I was really appreciated!

I'm confident with my LB production decal. I believe buyer's eye are crystal clear. Who will pay nearly the same price for a copy instead of original?

Also the market is open so I can't say we should forbid him to sell his own product. Like the case of Skyline GTR from both Tamiya and Aoshima. Guys, judge yourself!

I actually don't mind he doing copies. He may need to more efforts to made his copy from my tiny logos on the decal sheet, which I was really appreciated!

I'm confident with my LB production decal. I believe buyer's eye are crystal clear. Who will pay nearly the same price for a copy instead of original?

Also the market is open so I can't say we should forbid him to sell his own product. Like the case of Skyline GTR from both Tamiya and Aoshima. Guys, judge yourself!

Babelfish?

yoink

Just what are you two jokers above on about?

Babelfish?

If you're trying to be funny it's not working.
Like you, English is not Lau's first language, as it is, his post was perfectly understandable.

If you're trying to be funny it's not working.
Like you, English is not Lau's first language, as it is, his post was perfectly understandable.

I was just wondering because i haven't ever heard anyone say "Judge yourself" to me.

In case of LB Prod. it is not so nice to copy almost the whole decal and sell it as own item. Because Lau is small decal maker. But if you copy a S27 decal I think is not a big guilt.

Anyhow I would buy from this guy the P/E part and the Nismo Zero decal but do not know how. On that page there isn1t any email address. Also what currecy he use? Can anybody help me?

I don't see what you guys are on about. They are company logos for a particular race car. No matter who makes them, they are going to look the same. You want the decal to look the same. Would it make you feel batter if he had arranged them in a different pattern? Studio 27 did not design those logos, advertising people working for the various companies did. There is no copying here except what is necessary to produce an accurate set of decals. I would think you would want it to be accurate and the same for a cheaper price. The only thing he may be doing wrong is not paying the corporate fees for using their logos on a sheet of decals, thus making it cheaper.


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I think you need to get like a license to use the logos though.

So what if he copied it - if it's cheaper then fairplay!
Do you actually enjoy paying high prices?
It's about time that someone with the ability to produce decals used it to help others instead of hogging it!

Good luck to the guy!

Good luck to him!

Good help to let us disappear... Thanks a lot.

You told about high prices, but I'm quite sure I would easily exchange your pay against mine.

Good help to let us disappear... Thanks a lot.

You told about high prices, but I'm quite sure I would easily exchange your pay against mine.

Agree with Etienne! This would kill small companys and the hobby. Do you guys notice that you got fewer decals and kits recently? Please think again. There are lots of better business for money. We're not doing this business for money but for enthusiasm.

let's say, he did just photo copy, and reprint. what kind of decal paper does he use? I can rely on S27 for great decals, and PE. what if this guy is just using the Testor's decal stuff? I don't see anything wrong with it. I am quite sure the quality of film will be of lower grade. Remember the old saying "you get what you pay for".

now on the flip side of this coin. I do not condone, or approve of this action of "RE-POPPING". if he has done something to improve on the original, then good, but if not...that's just wrong.