700r4 or T5

i have both transmissions the 700 is in my car now and i just bought the t5 they are both in about the same condition, they both work they both will just need to be rebuilt so they can handle the 350. The questions is which one should i throw behind the 350 when i do the swap. ive been going back and forth on this for a few months now. whichever one i dont use im going to sell...to throw the money into the rebuild my tranny piggie bank.What do yall think will work better and longer.

If I remember correctly, the 700 is in the car now, right? If so, the question is do you really want to switch a a manual setup? Not only do you need to add a clutch pedal, but then you also have to plumb up clutch setup and pluas deal with the routine maintnance of clutch inspection and whatnot.

You ahve some pros and cons to think about.

ya i know what you mean about the pros and cons thats why im asking yalls opionions ... so far the 700r4 is on top, all i have to do to it is rebuild it but if i go with the t5 i have to do the whole auto to manual conversion plus i have to wory about clutches and that shit, just like you said. the auto theres not much maitenece after its rebuilt.

Manual is superior. Dont rebuild (not worth it). Just get a low mlg one from any car. The conversion to manual is pretty simple too-again junk-yard parts. Since you put in the transmission just get a nice clutch (such as "Six pack") and you good to go. Screw all those people who say it wont hold up. Who cares, they are cheap and easy to replace. Automatics SUCK!!! (good for track only)

The T5 will die behind the 350. stick with the 700R4 and put a good rebuild kit, shift kit, and converter on it. trust me, youll be more than pleased. and its a helluva lot less of a headache than switching to a manual. a manual is more fun to drive if you have open roads, but im one of the few people ive met in real life that dosnt curse and spit venom at driving a manual in traffic. shit i live basically in D.C., so i kinda like having my automatic, easier to drive, and its faster ;) as for putting a part on the car i know is gonna fail and ill have to replace on a regular basis, shit my car has enough problems from the factory that im dealing with, why the hell would i add to it lol.

Yeah dude automatic all the way, the 700R4 is one of the best trannies ever and can handle up to 500 torque, which ofcourse can be done after adding a few things like Erik said above me, it will be easier too since you dont have to do anything AND the 700R4 has the great overdrive thing that makes it one of the BEST transmissions for the street/everyday driving.

Screw that. Than get a T56 with a custom cross member
and whole bunch of other things to make it work. Manual is still way better. I drove many of them, but never a camaro with a t5.
It makes you feel like you are driving.
Gives more control over the car.
You can always push start it.

ok, can i ask a question here?

can the 700r4 be built to handle like 1500 hp or more?

Dont think so, the most I think it can handle is about 500..

You know i was definitely along the lines of buying a T-5 and swapping it, but after a lot of thinking and researching, the 700r4 would be the better way to go. Just like 89 said (welcome back man, i didn't even know you came back, couldn't resist right?) add shift kit, bigger stall, rebuild, cooler, rachet shifter, the tranny would be bullet proof, and faster than a manual. And to do all that wouldn't even run you alot of money. I mean, who can shift better than the computer?

Not many can shift better than the computer, for those who say that manual is faster thats by a fraction of a sec..

Don't all who drag (doesn't right) use auto's anyway?

A) The 700r4 IS NOT cpu controlled

B) most drag cars I've seen even tho they are 'auto' the driver still manually shifts each gear, instaed of replacing the tranny after each run I'd presume.

What are they TH350 or 400 with manual valve bodies? Yeah, i forgot the 700r4 weren't cpu controlled the 4l60e were... samething... almost.

well, to be fair the fastest drag cars dont even have transmissions, they just have clutchpacks that they replace every run.

but the general breakdown is that manuals are more fun to drive, autos are faster, at least on a strait line, manuals are faster around a road course. as i said i have an auto tranny, and i definatly feel like im driving, i think someone who claims you have to have a manual to really be a driver is compensating for something......

antoher quick question, what auto tranny could be built to handle like 1500+ hp? there has to be atleast one, what the hell do ppl use that have pro street vehicles?

Th400

thanks. any idea where i can get a stock one? did they come in cars that i could possible look for at the junk yard? or are they like aftermarket?

factory made for about 30 years lol, dunno if you can still find many at the junkyard, kinda the same era as the 12 bolt rear. around here there arent any cars old enough to have them. maybe out on the west coast in the bone yards.

a point here to remember is that while TH350's and TH400s rule the track, they are not overdrive trannies and will suck on the highway, they also do not have lockup converters, so a drag converter at 3000rpm stall will suck on the highway, combined with 4.10 gears and you see where this is going...... they SUCK on the highway. but they are blazing fast in the quarter mile. these are the cars that you keep for weekend duty to take your friends out in, floor it and literally watch the gas guage go down.

For a street strip car, stick with the 700R4 or a T56, the 700 can be built to handle 500hp reliably, and lets be honest, you dont need more than that on the street.

local news paper/parts section they are 3 speed. 700 r4 is a kick ass tranny too. In automatics that would be the one to use.

Are you gonna get a 1500 + hp monster-motor?

What the.. me being bored looked up Th400 and it came up with this..
http://www.thaiprettygirl.com/cd/thumbnails/th400.1.jpg

What're you trying to do, Erik?

Oh btw, Erik. Please go here and help this guy out, seems like he could use your know-it-allness. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=448078

local news paper/parts section they are 3 speed. 700 r4 is a kick ass tranny too. In automatics that would be the one to use.

Are you gonna get a 1500 + hp monster-motor?

well 2 things, i want 1000 hp to the wheels, maybe more, so what ever i do it gotta hold up, like right now i want 1000 hp at the wheels (this is with turbos) but maybe later (im sill trying to research stuff) i might go for 1500 at the wheels, in the end i want it to also be street legal.

but as a cusion i rather it be able to hald 1500hp if i go for 1000 at the wheels and handle like 2000hp if i shoot for 1500 at the wheels this what i have some cusion incase something happens and i end up with more hp then planned.

lol i am not responsible for the ineptatude of your search engine, and if that guy comes back about the ford, and can actually make clear what he wants, id be happy to try and help him. actually the 700 swap into fords is very popular, im sure i know some bobtail owners that can help him better than i can. if thats what hes lookin for.

you want a street legal, 1500hp car................. and it has to be easy to drive, and get 30mpg to boot right??? dude, im gonna try real hard to not be a dick about this, but i think youre aiming a little high. that much hp on the street is not safe, no matter how you cut it.

my uncle had a 69 camaro that was street legal and made 1050 hp, oh sure we took it on the interstate once or twice just for shits and giggles, were also lucky we didnt kill anyone. and it sure as shit wasnt fun to drive. you have to really work at not breaking the tires loose and after a while working to stay off of the gas pedal gives you a cramp in your calf, not to mention its street manners were horrable, youd get a headache (no mufflers) your back would hurt (drag racer idle) and much more. Trust me, that much power is not going to be streetable, sure you may be able to drive it on the street, but i give it a week before you go out and buy a new daily driver because you no longer enjoy driving he camaro.

you want a street legal, 1500hp car................. and it has to be easy to drive, and get 30mpg to boot right??? dude, im gonna try real hard to not be a dick about this, but i think youre aiming a little high. that much hp on the street is not safe, no matter how you cut it.

my uncle had a 69 camaro that was street legal and made 1050 hp, oh sure we took it on the interstate once or twice just for shits and giggles, were also lucky we didnt kill anyone. and it sure as shit wasnt fun to drive. you have to really work at not breaking the tires loose and after a while working to stay off of the gas pedal gives you a cramp in your calf, not to mention its street manners were horrable, youd get a headache (no mufflers) your back would hurt (drag racer idle) and much more. Trust me, that much power is not going to be streetable, sure you may be able to drive it on the street, but i give it a week before you go out and buy a new daily driver because you no longer enjoy driving he camaro.

ok, i will aim lower, what about 700hp?

with turbos, 700hp is doable for a regular daily driver, at low boost levels it will have better manners and then you can wind it up and tear it loose. i believe hypsi had something like a boost controller in his car that let him adjust the ammount of boost he was running, something like that would probly allow you to hit the 700hp and still have a very streetable package. it would still be one mean motherfucker. ill be quite happy with my 350-400 rear wheel hp tank you veddy much, we have these things called rain and snow where i come from ;)

with turbos, 700hp is doable for a regular daily driver, at low boost levels it will have better manners and then you can wind it up and tear it loose. i believe hypsi had something like a boost controller in his car that let him adjust the ammount of boost he was running, something like that would probly allow you to hit the 700hp and still have a very streetable package. it would still be one mean motherfucker. ill be quite happy with my 350-400 rear wheel hp tank you veddy much, we have these things called rain and snow where i come from ;)

same here, but where i come from they make snow tires, and the good year eagle f1-gs's have very good wet traction.


oh and btw this 25 - 26 mpg issue is :bs: i cant find anything on it, so either its a lie or they are runing some other type of fuel and they car isnt street legal, i was talking to lous about it and he said he never believe that shit ever, he thinks that its more like 26 gallons per mile.

Rain and snow? WDF IS THAT?!

Rain and snow? WDF IS THAT?!
i dunno either ive never seen any here in texas

what 25-26mpg bs???? im afraid you came outta left feild on this one, bring me up to speed.

what 25-26mpg bs???? im afraid you came outta left feild on this one, bring me up to speed.

anything you startdoing to these cars they are for sure gonna start guzzling gas, specially when you are hitting over 600hp using turbos and shit, i still havent been able to find any kind of info on make a pro street car with 2300 f-ing hp get 26mpg so unless you have some info on it, i think its bs.