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Lan.Evo.VIII
08-15-2005, 06:28 PM
hi,

i am noobie at building model kits. I have a few questions.

Are Fujimi's, and Aoshima' models kit good for a beginner's usage?
Are they more detailed than Tamiya? Also, do you build the car engines for those model kits ( the fujimi and aoshimas). What does bonnet mean? Also, is there a substitute brand of putty instead of testors' and tamiya's? Due to that fact that i live a suburban town of New Orleans. Im not familar with the New orleans area, taht is y im trying to find a sub brand for the putty.

Thank you
pls be nice to the noobie. lol

LAterz

MidMazar
08-15-2005, 06:48 PM
Most of the questions can be found in the faq section, but i'll answer some of them.

Tamiya is superior in their kits, fitment and quality is better than fujimi and aoshima.
Aoshima and fujimi sometimes have fitment problems, and have very boring interiors.
I would go with a tamiya for a beginner, engines are mostly in revell kits, tamiya has a few, but i have yet to see a fujimi or aoshima with an engine.

Magic sculp is an excellent brand of putty from what i have heard. I tend to use tamiya epoxy.
Oh and welcome to AF.

Jaymes
08-15-2005, 06:58 PM
I think Tamiya kits would be nice for a beginner. Revell kits (don't know about the newer ones), like someone mentioned, require a bit more effort and modifying to fit perfectly. Revell however has much more detail and extra parts, and build more character :p

g00eY
08-15-2005, 07:26 PM
hi,

i am noobie at building model kits. I have a few questions.

Are Fujimi's, and Aoshima' models kit good for a beginner's usage?
Are they more detailed than Tamiya? Also, do you build the car engines for those model kits ( the fujimi and aoshimas). What does bonnet mean? Also, is there a substitute brand of putty instead of testors' and tamiya's? Due to that fact that i live a suburban town of New Orleans. Im not familar with the New orleans area, taht is y im trying to find a sub brand for the putty.

Thank you
pls be nice to the noobie. lol

LAterz

no worries, we were all noobs once. welcome to the world of automotive modeling!

i would say that you should get either Tamiya or Revell kits. Fujimi and Aoshima are mostly(if not all) curbside(meaning they have no engine detail). Tamiya usually has great fit, pretty good detail for the price, and just fun to build. if you like engines, be sure to read details on the kit to see if it has an engine. Revell is easily found in the USA and is relatively cheap, mostly all having pretty good detail, but sometimes the fit of the kit is just horrible.

a bonnet is a hood.

i just bought some Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty(orange tube) for $3. it will last you awhile, but i dunno how it works yet. try to stay away from Testors products unless it is bottled brush paints. i also have Milliput 2 part epoxy putty.

don't forget to show us some of your models!

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-15-2005, 07:35 PM
where can magic sculp be found?
and also milliput?

thank you

g00eY
08-15-2005, 07:54 PM
i think you'll have to order milliput online. just a word of advice: if you are building bodykits, make sure you use styrene(plastic sheet) to build the frame, and then use 2 part epoxy to build up the shape. do not try using self/air drying putties on big putty spots. the putty will shrink.

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-15-2005, 08:08 PM
what do you mean by plastic sheets?

Also another question. No Offense to anyone.

Do chick usually dig us guys who tends to like building model kits? I like building models due that gundams is wat got me into model kit building. ( also a newbie at that too lol)

g00eY
08-15-2005, 08:43 PM
ahahahaha i dunno dude... i know of 2 girls(i think) that come here to the modeling forum.

plastic sheets are... well... plastic sheets.

http://www.totalmodel.com/workshop/images/plasticard.jpg

they are what they sound like. sheets of plastic that come in varying thicknesses. i think some people have use like... plastic yogurt containers, etc..., but i have never tried that.

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-15-2005, 09:12 PM
i kinda understand and kinda dont but ill figure it out. once i find some putty.
Do you think i can find some at home depot?lol

thank you

g00eY
08-15-2005, 10:23 PM
depends what you wanna do with the putty. Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty is easy to find, and pretty cheap, but not good for making bodykits.

freakmech
08-15-2005, 11:02 PM
I live in New Orleans but im not from the south. There are decent hobby shops here and Baton Rouge. I do recall there being a hobby shop in Bugalusa but i think it was a train shop but they might carry putty and Styrene (sheet plastic). You should really look through the FAQ to answer some of your questions. After all... your biography claims your "smart" so give it a try. Also, your not likely to find Fujimi or Aoshima kits in stores in your area so if your planning on ordering them on-line then get your putty and such there as well.


Oh and NO,"chicks" probably wont dig you more because you build models. Why would you even ask or think that?!? :lol:

Skateboard... chicks dig that... I know :rofl:

willimo
08-15-2005, 11:24 PM
Aoshima are good. Their newer kits are absolutely stellar, and fit as well and are molded as well as Tamiya kits in my opinion. There may be a few inaccuracies or omissions, but I would recommend them to new modelers because of their ease of construction (for the newer kits) and the range of kits available. However, you kind of need to know what you're looking for or you might get stuck with an older, not good kit, and Aoshima tends to be expensive. Fujimi is also expensive, and not worth the expense unless you know what you're doing and can't find a kit by another maker of a car that you absolutely have to have. They have all the omissions and inaccuracies of Aoshima without the shake-the-box construction, though there are a few older kits that are amazingly detailed but amazingly difficult. Tamiya is probably the best bet, though their newer kits usually lack engine, and if the don't they're going to be pretty complex. When looking at Tamiya kits - look for one that says "Full detail" or "Engine included" and look on the box to see if the box art has a cutaway with an engine pictured - these are indicators that the model has a motor. Otherwise it's a "curbside" or a kit without and engine under it's "bonnet." Revell is a good comapny that makes almost all full detail kits with pretty good molding, pretty good fit, pretty good accuracy, and pretty good everything else. Best of all, they're dirt cheap. Revell kits are probably your best bet.

I used to live in Baton Rouge, so I am not sure what you've got as far as hobby shops in N.O., however I do know there are some. I've heard about Hub Hobby which is supposed to be really good and I've driven by Hobbies West on the westbank one day when it was closed. Hit up map.google.com and search "Hobby Shops in New Orleans" and it will give you more information.

I go into this because I've yet to find a suitable alternative to modeling putty. Using Bondo putty can work, but it usually ends up with cracking and splitting on the surface. Don't get me wrong, some people can get it to work great, but being new at this means, to me at least, that you'll want the best and easiest to work with products. Model specific putties are designed to work with model materials - namely styrene plastic, to either bond with it or not depending on your intent. For heavy work you need an epoxy type putty because it won't damage the plastic when you use a lot and it won't shrink or crack much, but for filling small seams and dimples in plastic you'll need a more basic type putty. Tamiya makes superior versions of both of these, which will make your modeling day much more pleasant. Testors products are passable but not stellar.

In either case, the key with putty is to use as little of it as you can.

I've not met many girls that really go for guys that build models, unfortunately, though none of the ones I met or hung out with were averse to it. It's a helluva lot more productive (sort of) than video games, but not quite as cool as being in a band...

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-16-2005, 03:43 PM
thank you for the info.
im might go to the hub hobby place maybe this weekend if i dont have anything to do.

Dang, what is the deal with the band and guitar thing. I now must learn to play a musical instrument lol.

thank you guys.

cfcrules
08-16-2005, 04:55 PM
The best putty or filler is Squadron, it is great, dries, but sands away easily , in fine particles, meaning you can get a great finish easily. You can normally find it in most hobby shops, and its not too expensive. The downside is that the lid is not the best fit, and tends to get all gunked up, meaning that it dries out, but, its only usually the smallest amount wasted. I solved this by keeping it in a plastic bag, tied up, with all of the air squeezed out of it.

I started building with Revell, but found it difficult due to fitment problems, I then bought Tamiya Sauber C9, and it went together so easily, that I onlybuilt Tamiya until I was a bit more confident with my skills. I know alot of you will disagree, but the best model I think to start with is the Enzo, just dont add too much detail. The fitment is perfect, and the body comes in many pieces, meaning if you make any mistakes it is easy to correct by just sanding the seperate panels. However it is very expensive. So the best bet could be to go on ebay and look for a job lot of models, I picked up nine or ten models, for about £18, which I then used to pratice on, and if anythng went wrong I didn't worry about it. I don't really recommend AMT, as the paint schemes are very basic, and so you need to find a lot of reference pictures, which is not always possible to do. I'm still a noobie myself, so this maybe wrong, and it may be best to get advice from somebody else as well.

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-16-2005, 05:35 PM
right now,

I purchased a civic hatchback from revell. The fitment of the bumper does not fit well. Also i dont like how the rear spoiler is, so im deciding to make a new one, simliar to the type r one. That is y i ask about the putty. I also have a tamiya s2k in progress, the body has been primed.

:D
LAterz

g00eY
08-16-2005, 06:37 PM
don't forget to show us progress and completed pics in either the motorsport or street and show forums! i wouldn't recommend making that spoiler without plastic. also remember that scratchbuilding takes practice.

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-18-2005, 07:42 PM
ok, thanks

I also have another question. CSC, does remove chrome paint off the parts? Is it safe for all types of plastic? Everyone here is so nice, it makes me want to cry lol. jk

thank you

MPWR
08-18-2005, 08:25 PM
Yeah, CSC is great for stripping chrome. It's safe for styrene, I haven't tried it on anything else. If you want to know about another type, test it first!

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-18-2005, 08:32 PM
is revell model kits made out of styrene?

MPWR
08-18-2005, 08:39 PM
Yes, and CSC is safe on their kits.

As far as chicks and modeling, modeling is a poor way to meet chicks. That having been said, it's by no means a turn off for chicks. In fact, it can be a good way to tell if you're well matched with a chick- if you tell her you build models, and she's cool with it, then she's worth keeping. If not, look elsewhere- no sense wasting your time (I'm serious here).

I met a chick who was cool with me building. I married her. Then, after getting dragged to too many hobby shops, she got into building. Now she can't get enough- she drags me to hobby shops now. There are chicks out there like her, and they're worth finding.

Gridgirl
08-18-2005, 08:57 PM
Ah, a common misperception, that chicks can be grouped into one common thought pattern. Some chicks do like musicians, I know exactly one, some chicks like guys who skateboard, some chicks like guys with long hair, some like guys with short hair...... The truth is that different chicks look for different things in guys. What you are looking for is a chick who likes the things you do (and likes you for it). I personally, wanted a guy who does stuff, like woodworking, playing with cars, building models, fixing stuff. I always envisioned a guy who spent time in his garage or workshop. Some girls aren't into that. So just be who you are and let that speak to the girls you meet..... don't try to be who you think that they want you to be, you'll only be selling yourself short.

freakmech
08-18-2005, 11:40 PM
Wow, Gridgirl, your my perfect dream girl! I build models, and i mill wood for a living! And im from Maryland (north eastern, a small place called Colora). Will you marry me? Though i am in the south now, boo. please say yes!

oh and the E36 chassis, what a dream, id work on your car all day, nothing dirty, i love the Mmmmmmmm...3's. where have you been all my life?;)

EDIT: oh god i hope your not like 15.....lawsuit....errr

Sticky Fingers
08-19-2005, 02:41 AM
Freakmech, you really make me smile sometimes! :lol2:

Gridgirl
08-19-2005, 08:50 AM
EDIT: oh god i hope your not like 15.....lawsuit....errr

Yeah, you should see the insurance rates for a 15 year old with an M3 :rolleyes:

However, you're about 6 years too late, as I'm happily married to a guy who does stuff. Nevertheless there are other girls like me out there!

freakmech
08-19-2005, 09:47 AM
Nevertheless there are other girls like me out there!

Lies i tell you.... lies.... :disappoin

willimo
08-19-2005, 10:58 AM
There are.

Still, I admit I used to run in and out of Hobby Lobby's half off sales, lest the cute LSU girls in there for party cups caught me with an armload of Tamiya and Revell.

g00eY
08-19-2005, 11:46 AM
lol...

anyways, i haven't tried CSC but from what other people say it doesn't strip some paints. so beware if you plan on using it to strip certain types of paint.

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-19-2005, 05:26 PM
ok, thank you.

about the chick thing. well, i asked my sister, from a girl's point of view. is car building and gundam building geeky or a set off. She said she dont know but i think she would say yea that stuff is geeky lol.

thank you.
maybe more questions to come along soon.

g00eY
08-19-2005, 06:07 PM
i feel that model building is geeky. but i'm here and i build models so yea...

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-19-2005, 11:45 PM
CSC works wonders. Im addicted removing the paint of almost everything chrome now lol.

willimo
08-20-2005, 07:45 AM
Just a point of interest, the parts on the chrome tree in your kit aren't painted, they're actually coated with chrome like the real thing. They lay a layer of cleal lacquer over the parts, then dip them into a metal coating bath (though it may not actually be chrome) to make the parts metallic and shiny. It's not paint.

Lan.Evo.VIII
08-23-2005, 10:01 PM
hi again,

i was going through some of the older threads and notice a s2k with an engine built. What model kit is that? or is it an scratch build? I also wat is a good brand of clear coat? my s2k is going fine but at i read some of the threads it makes me wonder if how i can improve my car's finish.
Also i have another question, wat is the different between car modeling and car diecast? is it the body is made out of metal?

thank you pple

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