Dub City Mustang 500KR

Here is a rendering of my BigTime Muscle model.

http://www.saenzartworks.com/art/500kr_sm.jpg

Thx for checking it out.

Nice. The perspective of the front is off a bit, but overall, I really like it.

oooh im feelin that. that my friend is hot.

looks awesome Al!

real nice to see more of your work.

-Lemorris

i got that same car except mine is silver and black

That's pretty radulous. Chrome is looking good.

allright, al. that is bad ass. i love your rendering style. i have seen you progress so much in the time i have been here.

your style is wonderful and watchable again and again. you have become very adept at textures, metal, glass, rubber, all of the telltale car textures. and you have a style that is not staid or boring. it has humanity yet is serious drawing skills.

fix the windshield a bit to match the plane of perspective of the front grille/fascia. after that, you rock the house.

my mouth felt open!!! Thats really awsome stuff dude!!! I love how you did the rims!! And a black car...very well done!!!

Fantastic work, the colors and reflections just jump out.

Thx guys and lady :)

I am trying to figure out what is up w/ the perspective. I guess the windshield is (far side) needs to me fixed. I think the frame needs to be remove (farside) because that would not be viewable based on the curvature of the window.

I need some help, pls describe the perspective problem. The car is at a funny angle and the front is actually closer to the viewer. I think part of the problem is the fact the car is dead on the horizon making the bottom of the body a near straight line. I didn't check on my perspective. I will next time. It was such a long time ago when I sketched this car. I just finish the coloring yesterday.

I also want to say I have been taken what Bonz and Lemorris say to heart. There is only one way to get better and that is to keep practicing, keep rendering. I feel I had some major break through w/ this car. I will share some of the things I have done differently w/ you all. I need to get to work right now.

Thx
al

i think the perspective is fine. on those 'Stangs, the hood came up high in the middle anyways. great drawing!

I love it, dub cities always looked silly to me, but you made it look respectible, awesome job!

Thx Swaag and Gman.

Ok I checked my ref. photo and I did messup the front perspective. I still have problems keeping my eye on my reference too. :)

I went ahead and stretched my rendering in photoshop. I didn't like the toon look. Jada toys do look alittle bit toony (nothing against toons).

al

for those who like to read long posts..hee hee

Changing things up:

I am drawing on 11x14 and 11x17 paper now.
I can take my note pad everywhere and work on several cars at the same time (luv it).
I was drawing on Bristol 20x something heavy paper, way to big for my ellipse template set. I had to combine several templates to get larger major axis. That was very time consuming. Larger ellipse templates sets range from 2.25 to 4 in. and are about 125$; I didn’t want to spend the money.

I purchased sweeps aka ship curves. I do not use my flex or French curves anymore. The ship curves are better suited for cars. They save a ton of time (don’t have to adjust the flex curve anymore). Thom Taylor failed to mention that sweeps are also called ship curves so for 4 yrs I didn’t know they existed. Taylor says that he made his so I thought all people had to. Thom’s book along w/t H Hot Wheels book make a complete set for rendering in pastel/marker. There is lots of other cool stuff in them too. If you only get one get the Hotwheels book. I don’t use frisket film anymore (Thom’s book). I use several paper copies of the original line drawing (Hot wheels). That is good as long as you stay w/ 11x14 or 17in paper. I just make several copies of the line drawing at Staples/Kinkos. Those are used form the masks instead of frisket film. That stuff is expensive.

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http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?userid=aa7EAWwBFW&btob=Y&pwb=1&ean=9780760314807

Check half.com for used/new books first.

Ship curves can be found here
http://www.artstuff.net/ships_curves.htm
great service too

I purchased a 12$ large plastic tool box from Target. I put my templates, sweeps, and magazines along w/ my eletric sharpener in the bottom. It stores every thing except my 2ft sweeps.

So for work I just grab my tool box (large sweep if I need them) and my 11x14 drawing pad.

I finally bought Prisma Verithin pencils pencils. These are awesome and better suited for line drawing than Prisma color pencils. They keep the point longer and can withstand my electric sharpener.

If you read all this good for you J
I talk too much.

al

Hell the chrome is AWESOME!!!

Great colors!!

I think it's a hard angle, yeah, maybe it's because it first looks lika a completely side view, then you see the front later. Hard to say.

Great work anyway!!!

Looks damn good. Simply extravagent.

you should make a tutorial on making them chrome rims

Great work, nice work with the colors.

Those modern wheels really make the old stang body look amazing. Looks much better than the recent designs being put out by ford. Awesome drawing!

I have a couple questions Al.

You said you're carrying your drawings in a pad? How are you keeping them rotected?

Since you're drawing smaller now...believe me I understand the ellipse issue...how are you blending your chalk dust? Are you using your fingers or stumps or q-tips or anything?

Are you photographing your art? Then posting, or is this a scan.

Last but not least can you talk a little about all the colors in rendering a black body car?

Thanks

-Lemorris

Thx Fellas

Dshelton, I will do a write up(the chrome rims).
I don't have a lot of experience rendering them; this is my 2nd attempt.
But I can share what I know. I have a 69 Camaro in the pad waiting for chrome. I will turn that into a mini tutorial.

Lemorris, glad you posted again. I have a question for you and Bonz.

I am currently using the absolute cheapest pastels. I think 48 pastels for like 12$ or something from AC Moore. Would going to a higher quality pastel improve my renderings? I notice the nice ones are made into smaller sticks. My cheap ones are larger.

I have a couple questions Al.
You said you're carrying your drawings in a pad? How are you keeping them rotected?

I tear them out when I apply pastel. They stay in the pad for penciling, and marker. Pastel and painting are my last steps.


Since you're drawing smaller now...believe me I understand the ellipse issue...how are you blending your chalk dust? Are you using your fingers or stumps or q-tips or anything?

Ok, I am still experimenting w/ that. I have read that ppl (hot wheels book) scrape chalk off w/ an x-acto into lil mounds. They then mix colors and perhaps some baby powder. Then they apply the color w/ industrial cotton pads. I need to give them a try. On this one I applied chalk to the drawing. and then smeared it w/ my finger. I also used stumps to apply chalk in smaller areas (rims). I also used make-up wedges. I can't remember the name of those industrial pads but I think they are good because they will not remove too much chalk off of the paper. I also apply chalk over marker; the spokes facing the ground (top ones) have light gray applied and then yellow chalk layered over them (stump).


Are you photographing your art? Then posting, or is this a scan.


I am photographing my artwork. I was slack on this one. I usually setup my halogen flood lamps and my tripod/camera @ night in my garage. I hit the artwork w/ 45 degrees of lights from both sides w/ the tripod in the middle (everything on the same plane). This time I just photographed it in my house w/ dresser lamps (they do not provide enough or clean light). I learned how to photograph art from a book I found at my library.
http://www.artistsnetwork.com/nlbooks/display.asp?id=2118


Last but not least can you talk a little about all the colors in rendering a black body car?


I used three colors on this car. I first applied blue to the surfaces facing up and then added the black. For the side and areas facing down I applied yellow and then black. I notice that Thom uses a more orange and yellow combination. I will try that next time. I think if I scrape the chalk off I can blend the blue w/ lht blue to get a more accurate color for the sky. I need to try that. I might also try blue directly on the paper then light blue and then black.

AWESOME work Al! Almost has an airbrushed effect to it. Nice job blending the pastel. Overall the composition is great and the angle you chose to draw along with the color makes the car look really aggressive. The chrome is gorgeous... you nailed the reflections. How long did this take you?

Alex

In general I have always felt that you get what you pay for. A $20 brush holds a point better and lasts much longer than a $5 brush. As far as pastels are concerned I can't say that more expensive ones are gonna help. Your blends are already great. You might try a different surface or some of those blending and applying techniques.

Thanks for the insight into the black car thing. i think I'm gonna render that Passat black...fingers crossed.

-Lemorris

al, more expensive pastels do make a difference, as there are many kinds of pastels. i prefer the pure-pigment types from rembrandt. they are very expensive. but the color is very saturated like paint. i will often mix cheap with expensive pigments, too. i will use many different brands in the same picture, as some manufacturers offer tones and hues that other ones do not.

i use sandpaper to shape the tips for effects, and then apply the dust to my fingers and finger paint with them. i either use the pastel itself to lay pigment down, or i use my fingers. or both. i will often make a mark with the pastel, only to then blend it with my finger. i work very large, as well, with pastels.

for small drawings, i use ad markers. with hi-lites of prismacolor pencil and gouache.

Thanks Bonz

when you say "very expensive"...like how much?

Thanks Bonz

when you say "very expensive"...like how much?

compared to what one may expect out of a boxed set of 24 cheap ones, you may be able to buy about 4 of the serious pure-pigment ones. you can get a box of 4 rembrandts for about USD$10.00. ---that is only 4. not 20. not 10. --only 4. and that is a set of the same color, a package combo meal deal on wheels.

if you want a la carte colors, expect that price to double. so if you want a red, yellow, blue, black, and white set, a la carte, you may pay $20 or more. add in the siennas and umbers, that doubles again. so you get about ten pastels for about $40. a bit less if you shop around. and this is just off the top of my head. if you find it cheaper, then yippee kai yay.

specific prices, i'd have to look online to compare. i have not bought them for quite some time. but you will notice a difference --that is 400% guaranteed. but you don't go buying them to economize. you throw that rationale out the window.

like if you buy pure sable oil brushes, you can pay $75 for ONE brush. you can easily spend $600 on a few paint brushes. but you will know why you did. you can spend $10 on one sheet of paper. an engineering scale rule can cost $20. one template set of ellipses can top $100 easily --and that is just the small set. the large ellipses cost another $100.

so now you've just spent about $500 on miscellaneous art supplies. and you haven't even bought any pencils yet. :evillol:

Thx Bonz and Lemorris for sharing

I went ahead and bought some Nupastels (Prisma Color) sp. I am too tired to look up the spelling.

I ment a person that actually had an art degree. I told me he has spent 300$ for 12 pastels before. He had a friend that spent 2000.00$ for six pastels. My jaw dropped. After that I didn't feel bad for spending 25$ for 24 pastels. He said, "With art supplies you really do get what you pay for."

Lets see what kind of smooth graduations I can get w/ these higher quality pastels.

a.

$2000 for 6 pastels? :eek2:.... Are they gold plated or something?

That is what the dude told me. Now I am doubting my ears but I do know it was over $1000.

Daang my last post didn't make much sense. It was 3am or something.

Alex I am not sure how long it took, perhaps 8-10 hrs.

wow. $6000 for pastels. i am floored. you can buy a good used car with that.

dude you can buy me for $6000...hell I'd paint my face Orange and let you call me Pastel.

dude you can buy me for $6000...hell I'd paint my face Orange and let you call me Pastel.

:lol:

Wow