Civic vs. Viper

A heavily modified Honda Civic races a Dodge Viper in a class street race.

http://www.car-videos.net/videos/streetracing/Civic_vs_Viper.wmv

...this is a classic race video...so no need for the REPOST smilies.

A heavily modified Honda Civic races a Dodge Viper in a class street race.

http://www.car-videos.net/videos/streetracing/Civic_vs_Viper.wmv

...this is a classic race video...so no need for the REPOST smilies.

Great, so a heavily modded civic with a good driver can beat a stock viper with a bad driver. I'd still rather have the viper.

Great, so a heavily modded civic with a good driver can beat a stock viper with a bad driver. I'd still rather have the viper.

So would I. Not only that, but the Civic only really ripped him out of the hole (because it's lighter) but by the end they were even. So I would deffinately take a viper any day over that.

Speaking of civics, I thought I'd just throw in that I drove a civic today for the first time = :(. I guess it's something every man must endure at one point in his lifetime.

That Is heavily modified Honda Civic Kick Asses

That Is heavily modified Honda Civic Kick Asses

I'm pretty sure that doesn't actually count as a coherent sentence.

I'm pretty sure that doesn't actually count as a coherent sentence.

None of his posts actually use sentances, but he's somewhat new to the english language or something like that.

Hes a ferral drunk I've heard :grinno:


FWD ball sucks thinks me :smokin:

That Is heavily modified Honda Civic Kick Asses

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o wait.
which car won.
you guys are being biast because it is an "import".

I would take that civic any day over the viper.

o wait.
which car won.
you guys are being biast because it is an "import".

I would take that civic any day over the viper.

Wow... your grammer is almost as bad as Crrrazy's.

Biast because it's an import?? Ok. :screwy: LoL spend 20,000 dollars on bringing an econo-box up to 500 hp, and then have it still hang even in the end with a non-modified Viper being driven by a driver who takes 5 minutes to complete the shift from 1st to 2nd gear.

It's a fast civic, after mucho money. I'd take the Viper any day.

Coming from a neutral persepective (Neither american nor japanese) as a Briton I'd choose the viper. Front wheel drive is and always will be the drive of budget vehicles. Invented as it was cheaper, space saving and mildly lighter than rwd. If a company was to decide to build a racer it wouldnt be fwd! To get a fwd car to handle or put down the power aswell as a rwd car your looking at major modifications and your in to big money then...

when did this forum became so dependant on proper grammer.

I be saying what things any think i wants when ever i wants ti be saying thum.

ok Mr. Professor

o wait.
which car won.
you guys are being biast because it is an "import".

I would take that civic any day over the viper.

At the end of the day that highly modded Civic is still just a Civic.

At the end of the day that highly modded Civic is still just a Civic.

there is nothing wrong with that.

o wait.
which car won.
you guys are being biast because it is an "import".

I would take that civic any day over the viper.

Yup you caught me. I'm "biast" against imports. Even though I've only ever owned/driven imports. I'm actually biased against american cars, but lets do the math:

Honda Civic. Built for economy, FWD, boring styling, too common, bland at best:
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/drivers.under.25/05.honda.civic.500.jpg

Dodge Viper. Built for whooping ass on the track, RWD, exotic styling, rare, sexy at worst:
http://www.allautoreviews.com/auto_reviews/dodge/photos/viper-1.jpg

Lets not forget, had the viper had a better driver it probably would have won.

there is nothing wrong with that.

There's nothing wrong with a Civic, no, but no one in their right mind would take one over a Viper, imo it's inconceivable.

Honda Civic. Built for economy, FWD, boring styling, too common, bland at best:
http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/drivers.under.25/05.honda.civic.500.jpg

Dodge Viper. Built for whooping ass on the track, RWD, exotic styling, rare, sexy at worst:
http://www.allautoreviews.com/auto_reviews/dodge/photos/viper-1.jpg

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P W N 3 D !!!!!1

*Sniff Sniff*... do I smell.... BURNAGE?!????

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come on now.thats like taking a FOCUS instead of a DIABLO.hooked up or not.people will still say thats only a focus.but a stock DIABLO...people on the streets would go nuts. i understand what you import lovers mean tho.

BY THE WAY... lets not forget that the civic in this video is just about as modded as it could be, whereas the viper is STOCK. If you wanted to put a little money into the viper, you could whoop any civic's ass any and every day of the week.

Ahh but could you take the kids to school in the Dodge :grinyes:


Over here we dont get any import Vs home grown. Mainly cause Britains car industry dryed up years ago :lol: Wait thats not funny :confused:

We get FWD hatchback fans over here... Im unsure why :screwy: Id take my 28 year old £300 Rear wheel drive Triumph over somethign with far less soul like a civic any day :grinyes:

BY THE WAY... lets not forget that the civic in this video is just about as modded as it could be, whereas the viper is STOCK. If you wanted to put a little money into the viper, you could whoop any civic's ass any and every day of the week.


i would be willing to bet that the viper cost 2x more than the civic( mods included).
a little money..
dont get me wrong, a viper would be sweet to have but, i was just triyng to be a little realistic. ive seen faster civics anyways.

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if you put as much money into the Viper as the Honda had in it, along with someone who actually knows how to drive stick, and the Viper would have kicked the Honda's ass.

The viper alone cost fuckin BANK!!! thats the point! so shut up

The viper alone cost fuckin BANK!!! thats the point! so shut up

You could get a used one. Or for the same price I would get myself a nice 1995 SC400 (V8 soarer for you foreigners) and build it up a little bit, (comes stock with a quad cam V8, 250hp) and I bet I could win.

Lets not forget, had the viper had a better driver it probably would have won.

If the VIPER had a better driver, it probably would have beaten the CIVIC? How sad is that?

If that '79 Trans Am 400 I kicked the crap out of yesterday had a better driver, he might have beaten me...or maybe not. I didn't stick around to see if he was embarrassed he lost so bad to a station wagon with 1/3 of his engine size, twice, but I'm fairly confident he had the same big question mark over his head that the guy that plopped down $80,000 for that Viper had after he lost to a $15,000 Honda with 1/4 of his engine.

If one car is faster than another, why can't some of you guys just admit it and move on? There are very fast cars of all shapes, sizes, and prices. Where it's manufactured or where its stockholders live or what model it was once based on are beside the point. In a race, the faster car or driver is simply faster. No excuses.

if you put as much money into the Viper as the Honda had in it, along with someone who actually knows how to drive stick, and the Viper would have kicked the Honda's ass.

I think you've got it way, WAY backwards. If you put as much money into the Honda as the Viper costs, you'd have one incredible monster that no production car could touch. I'm talking well beyond Porsche Carrera GT territory. It would take an additional $30k to get the $80k Viper into that range.

In that case give us a price sheet with all the mods a civic would need to become faster than a viper and then well work it out :)

In that case give us a price sheet with all the mods a civic would need to become faster than a viper and then well work it out :)

A newly fabricated tube chassis and aluminum body, longitudinally-mounted H22 engine with a 30 psi turbo and S2000 RWD drivetrain...
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Does that still count as a "Civic"? Or a better question is, is that even cheaper than a Viper?

No..... its not a civic. A civics FWD and built for shopping lol

Dumb argument.

Viper is performance
Civic is a fuel economic family car turned semi-performance.

End of argument.

And I don't believe anyone won that race, simply because we didn't see them actually cross a line, so to say who won is a far-out statement. Just because the description is "civic beats viper" doesn't mean it did. I can't see anywhere in that video any evidence that it did, or did not.




Viper pwns j00

Im not really into all out speed like this, so I still prefer a small car over the Viper. crazy i know. Thats too much for me. Its kind of like being rich vs having to earn everything. I do think its cool that people are building cars like that. I would appreciate a car that i put so much effort and money into more than a car that I just wrote a check for or whatever.

i just found this page and ive read all of the nonsence ok, if u buy a civic for under 3000(mine cost 1500) and u get a STOCK Integra Type-R engine and gutout ur interior u will be running mid 13's. After that if u internals like turbo pistons-$450,turbo cams-$700,turbo $4000 at 16 PSIand blah blah blah here are sum vids that to show all u honda haters http://www.cheesefrog.com/frog/cheezevsal.mpg and he had his hand brake look at his rear brakes The Viper had heads/cam and some other stuff and was laying down around 580whp.The Civic was pushing around 430whp. http://videos.streetfire.net/player.aspx?fileid=2A5277A4-AF7C-4068-9847-4176887B7BF4 and yet another viper owned kinda sad v10 vs inline 4 that why i go for civic

Like its been said before. The viper is more reliable, rwd, better looking, and a much better car to pick up chicks in then a civic. Unless you count the civics back seats for picking up chicks... but wait your civic is gutted, and uncomfortable.

You just picked a few videos where civics beat vipers, but I could tape a viper killing 50 hondas in one night no problem.

Why even bother defending the civic? It started out as an econo-box, and certainly people have made exceptional performance cars out of them, but it will always be held back by its humble beginnings IMO.

picture it like this. A man has no legs but learns to run on his hands. He maybe able to beat some people that are on foot, but never will he be as fast as the runners born with feet and he sure as hell had to work harder to be that fast. You get the point.

pick up chicks??? in a viper how many chicks are u gonna pick up 1 same shit as a civic they are both 2 seaters and which one cost more $$ base price for USED viper is $40000 with $40000 and a civic u can make that civic beat that shit out of the viper like i said sad how a v10 loses to civic all i got to say is that i myself and many other people that know about japanese cars know that imports are taking over the US and no Q's and also dont get me started on the skyline o if u do choose the viper over the civic u will have to stop every hour to fill up ur gas tank the fully moded civic doesnt even waste as much gas as a STOCK viper does sad sad sad.... :nono: :nono: :loser: :loser: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :iamwithst

pick up chicks??? in a viper how many chicks are u gonna pick up 1 same shit as a civic they are both 2 seaters and which one cost more $$ base price for USED viper is $40000 with $40000 and a civic u can make that civic beat that shit out of the viper like i said sad how a v10 loses to civic all i got to say is that i myself and many other people that know about japanese cars know that imports are taking over the US and no Q's and also dont get me started on the skyline o if u do choose the viper over the civic u will have to stop every hour to fill up ur gas tank the fully moded civic doesnt even waste as much gas as a STOCK viper does sad sad sad.... :nono: :nono: :loser: :loser: :rofl: :rofl: :lol: :lol: :iamwithst

Blah, blah, blah. You sound like the prototypical ricer. You fit every stereotype to a t. It's people like you who make people that actually work hard on thier imports look bad. Ask any real racer/car guy/enthusiast which car is the better car, and every single one of them will tell you the Viper is. It started out as a true no holds barred performance machine. That is what it will always be. The RT/10 a neo-classic, limited production, high performance automobile, no doubt about it. I don't care what you do to a Civic, it will still be a Civic and will still depreciate in value, where as the Viper will a Barret Jackson in the future.

I hate these posts because they're never ending but I'll go on to say something anyways. A fully modified civic that can keep up with a viper will get bad gas mileage too. Unless you plan on using the stock fuel system with the turbo. :uhoh: Gas mileage? Who gives a shit, what a lame ass arguement.


What do you mean don't get me started on the Skyline I didn't say shit about a car that you could actually make an arguement with. The skyline was built as a sports cart not an economy car. This is not an import vs. domestic debate it's economy car vs. sports car IN A PERFORMANCE ARGUEMENT!


And imports are taking over performance wise? You must be talking about the european ones. Nme all the cars currently in the sold in the U.S. (stock cars) that are faster then the current vipers, vettes, and cobra mustangs. Save the new GT-R which will not be here for a couple years and maybe the current nsx. none? Taking over huh?

Don't get me wrong I love japanese cars just as much as the next person, but I'm not as biased to say that they're taking over.. by any means.

As for what I said about the number of seats in the two cars it's a joke. To dumb it down for you I meant how many more girls are going to want to jump in your civic modded out the ass or not compared to even a stock gen 1 viper?

Wow... your grammer is almost as bad as Crrrazy's.

Biast because it's an import?? Ok. :screwy: LoL spend 20,000 dollars on bringing an econo-box up to 500 hp, and then have it still hang even in the end with a non-modified Viper being driven by a driver who takes 5 minutes to complete the shift from 1st to 2nd gear.

It's a fast civic, after mucho money. I'd take the Viper any day.

wow thats the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life ok let me make things straight I'd rather have the vyper too but lets be fair man. Yeah he put 20,000 into it a civic but how much MORE does a vyper costs lol. If you really wanna be fair you'd have to put all the money yu would save from buying a vyper into that civic which than the civic would whoop that vipers ass. My friends civic is faster than that and he didn't put anywhere near 20,000 into it

and wait not only that buy vypers handle like complete shit I've been in a cyper and it handles like shit not only that but its so powerful its scary why do you think its never rated that high compared to other CHEAPER cars in car and driver and other magazines. Fact is for the amount of money you would spend on a viper you can make your civic, faster, handle better, break better, look awesome. Oh yeah and if you need a viper to pick up girls than thats just sad lol. My friend drives his viper and the only girls he picks up are hoes anyway that'll fuck any guy anyway lol

and wait not only that buy vypers handle like complete shit I've been in a cyper and it handles like shit not only that but its so powerful its scary why do you think its never rated that high compared to other CHEAPER cars in car and driver and other magazines. Fact is for the amount of money you would spend on a viper you can make your civic, faster, handle better, break better, look awesome. Oh yeah and if you need a viper to pick up girls than thats just sad lol. My friend drives his viper and the only girls he picks up are hoes anyway that'll fuck any guy anyway lol

1. Your post is so riddled with gramatical errors it is nearly incoherent.
2. A viper convertible pulls 1.01 g's on a skidpad. Stock. (I'm not sure how well a "cyper" handles though, so we might be talking about 2 different things.) A civic pulls, what, a measly .85 with mods? Yeah, my 15 year old stock bimmer can do better than that.
3. If you are a competent driver, you shoudn't be "break"ing the car anyways. If you mean braking, however, a stock srt-10 does 60-0 in less than 100 feet and comes stock with brembo calipers and 14 inch rotors. How well can a (even a modded) civic stop?

Look, you're wrong. Viper owns civic. End of story.

This=most retarded arguement ever.

Oh yeah and if you need a viper to pick up girls than thats just sad lol. My friend drives his viper and the only girls he picks up are hoes anyway that'll fuck any guy anyway lol

I'm making a point that vipers are better looking. Why does everyone twist my shit up? I never said a person who purchases a viper should use it to pick up chicks. The car is better looking to most anyone despite a few who apparently really like the look of economy cars :uhoh:

The reason they don't rank high in alot of test if you havent read the actually magazine articles is because its a raw sports car, and always loses in other categories not directly related to performance. If you look at most articles you'll find the viper whooping ass in the performance category despite wether they like the feel of the car or not.

There is an article in I believe R&T where Mario Andretti tests a viper against a range of other sports car, and sweeps the entire performance category, but gets 3rd or 4th because he didn't like the feel of it.

Alright no more posting unless someone that doesnt suck (IMHO) replies.

I've learned you can't change the minds of these import guys. Ignorance is ignorance. You can't explain good taste to those who do not posess it.

I've learned you can't change the minds of these import guys. Ignorance is ignorance. You can't explain good taste to those who do not posess it.

HOLY SHIT SMARTEST N00B EVER


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ok, I own a '99 Mitsubishi Mirage and a '68 Chevy Camaro, so I am not biased towards either the tuners or performance-based cars, and I would have to say that for the money invested, the Honda is by far the better car. Sure, the Viper could be tuned to crush the Honda, but for how much the Honda owner spent compared to how much the Viper owner has already spent, the Honda is the better car to me.

ok, I own a '99 Mitsubishi Mirage and a '68 Chevy Camaro, so I am not biased towards either the tuners or performance-based cars, and I would have to say that for the money invested, the Honda is by far the better car. Sure, the Viper could be tuned to crush the Honda, but for how much the Honda owner spent compared to how much the Viper owner has already spent, the Honda is the better car to me.

I'm glad you brought spending. The reality is that no matter how much money you "invest" in the Civic it's value will decrease at a much higher rate than the Viper's, so in the end after all is said and done you will still be better off with a Viper. You will never, ever get the amount back out of the Civic you put in it. Where as the Viper will appriciate over time.

I like tuners, I understand and appriciate their passion, the same way I understand and appriciate the passion of muscle car guys, I like both also. With that said under no circumstances does a Civic/Focus/Cavalier/Neon/Celica/etc = a Viper. They may be as fast, but they aren't comperable vehicles.

I'm glad you brought spending. The reality is that no matter how much money you "invest" in the Civic it's value will decrease at a much higher rate than the Viper's, so in the end after all is said and done you will still be better off with a Viper. You will never, ever get the amount back out of the Civic you put in it. Where as the Viper will appriciate over time.

I like tuners, I understand and appriciate their passion, the same way I understand and appriciate the passion of muscle car guys, I like both also. With that said under no circumstances does a Civic/Focus/Cavalier/Neon/Celica/etc = a Viper. They may be as fast, but they aren't comperable vehicles.


...end of discussion! :cheers: