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Viper_Storm
08-12-2005, 07:41 AM
I have a some questions here,
1: would an automatic tranny be any good in drift, or auto cross? (id like to try both of them atleast once)
i orginally planned to go with a t56 but now i am un sure if that would be a good thing or not, some ppl go with 4.11 gears out back for acceleration, but if you raise the gears in the tranny so that even with 4.11 gears out back you have the same acceleration but now a new higher top speed, but you could go to like 5.11 rear gears and get that acceleration back up, but with the tall gears you wouldnt be shifting from 1st, untill later, like 40-50 mph (maybe more).
2: would it be worth having a manual that you prob wont even get out of 1st gear in?
3: what i said up above is just an example, i donno i might go with 5.38 rear and slightly taller tranny gears then stated above.
why go for such a high top speed with that kind of acceleration? if i do get the chance to take it to a drag strip i will blow past alot of stuff.
in the end it shouldnt be much diffrent then a normal car with 4.11 gears out back, just with a higher top speed.
4: what do you think?
auto or manual? would it be worth it in the end? is auto any good for drift or autocross?
1: would an automatic tranny be any good in drift, or auto cross? (id like to try both of them atleast once)
i orginally planned to go with a t56 but now i am un sure if that would be a good thing or not, some ppl go with 4.11 gears out back for acceleration, but if you raise the gears in the tranny so that even with 4.11 gears out back you have the same acceleration but now a new higher top speed, but you could go to like 5.11 rear gears and get that acceleration back up, but with the tall gears you wouldnt be shifting from 1st, untill later, like 40-50 mph (maybe more).
2: would it be worth having a manual that you prob wont even get out of 1st gear in?
3: what i said up above is just an example, i donno i might go with 5.38 rear and slightly taller tranny gears then stated above.
why go for such a high top speed with that kind of acceleration? if i do get the chance to take it to a drag strip i will blow past alot of stuff.
in the end it shouldnt be much diffrent then a normal car with 4.11 gears out back, just with a higher top speed.
4: what do you think?
auto or manual? would it be worth it in the end? is auto any good for drift or autocross?
1986Z28
08-13-2005, 12:30 PM
you need a manual to drift im pretty sure
Viper_Storm
08-13-2005, 04:43 PM
cant you get a better launch with a manual then you could with a auto?
Rally Sport
08-13-2005, 06:50 PM
Im actually pretty sure its easy with both as long as you know what you're doing. I think it would be HARDER to drift with a manual since you got to keep downshifting/ upshifting unless you're really good, and I mean good like able to shift perfectly to make your car faster because its a manual than an auto. I really think its opinion.
Viper_Storm
08-13-2005, 06:54 PM
Im actually pretty sure its easy with both as long as you know what you're doing. I think it would be HARDER to drift with a manual since you got to keep downshifting/ upshifting unless you're really good, and I mean good like able to shift perfectly to make your car faster because its a manual than an auto. I really think its opinion.
can you get a better launch with a manual or is it about the same if you know what your doing? how hard can it be to take your foot off brake and mash down the gas?
can you get a better launch with a manual or is it about the same if you know what your doing? how hard can it be to take your foot off brake and mash down the gas?
Rally Sport
08-13-2005, 07:03 PM
Actually you need to put one of your feet sideways I think, well you do need to do this to make a turn perfectly when racing with a manual, you got to use both feet, have one sideways pushing the gas and brake at the same time and your other pushing the clutch.
JJ122
08-14-2005, 12:05 AM
you will want a manual because you can control it more. in drifting you want it to stay in one gear while spinning the tires so they keep going and when you mash the gas it doesnt down shift. and in autocross you'll want manual because of the same reason that you need control and you dont want it to downshift on hard accelerations. So the best thing to do is learn how to shirt fast and learn what gear you need to be in
seanmc12
09-20-2005, 03:07 PM
Is anyone looking to unload a 5 speed tranni for a 68 camaro
Earlsfat
09-20-2005, 04:34 PM
Is anyone looking to unload a 5 speed tranni for a 68 camaro
If it'll fit in a 70, mate up to a 454, and it's the right ratio's I'm interested. What are you asking for it?
Oh and Viper... I may be wrong here... but I seem to remember someone saying someplace that if you have the gears too tall the engine won't be strong enough to move them.
AND, if you're gonna have a 2.xx or 3.xx first gear and then 5.11's.... what in the hell would that accomplish for a street car.... 5.11's @ 22" tires @ first gear of 3.xx @ 35 MPH = 8200 RPM's... BABOOOOMMMMM!!! BYE BYE CAR 5.38's pushes it up to 8600 RPM's - RichmondGear.Com Street Gear Calculator.
I'm having the same issue, trying to figure out what rear to put in with which trans, and which is better in terms of performance and cost. Posting my own thread ... slightly different issues.
If it'll fit in a 70, mate up to a 454, and it's the right ratio's I'm interested. What are you asking for it?
Oh and Viper... I may be wrong here... but I seem to remember someone saying someplace that if you have the gears too tall the engine won't be strong enough to move them.
AND, if you're gonna have a 2.xx or 3.xx first gear and then 5.11's.... what in the hell would that accomplish for a street car.... 5.11's @ 22" tires @ first gear of 3.xx @ 35 MPH = 8200 RPM's... BABOOOOMMMMM!!! BYE BYE CAR 5.38's pushes it up to 8600 RPM's - RichmondGear.Com Street Gear Calculator.
I'm having the same issue, trying to figure out what rear to put in with which trans, and which is better in terms of performance and cost. Posting my own thread ... slightly different issues.
Earlsfat
09-20-2005, 04:35 PM
My bad just re-read that. I'm LOOKING for a bullet-proof 5 speed.
tcfco2005
09-20-2005, 05:35 PM
wouldnt a automatic with a manual valve body be best because you can keep it in the gear you want but you dont have to worry about the clutch.
Matt365
09-20-2005, 05:40 PM
2 lazy to create my own thread, but would a ls1 or ls2 bolt up to a 97 firebird auto tranny.
JJ122
09-20-2005, 06:24 PM
it should if the tranny is from a V8 bird. If Im not mistaken all of the LS and LT engines are built on a 350 block so it should work
Matt365
09-20-2005, 06:29 PM
no, its from a v6, sry, forgot to list that
JJ122
09-20-2005, 08:59 PM
then it wont fit and you wouldnt want that with a V8 it cant handle the power. I had the same problem when I was about to get a new engine for my 'maro and I dont think there are any trannys that will bolt to both
Mr. Luos
09-20-2005, 09:09 PM
I have a some questions here,
1: would an automatic tranny be any good in drift, or auto cross? (id like to try both of them atleast once)
i orginally planned to go with a t56 but now i am un sure if that would be a good thing or not, some ppl go with 4.11 gears out back for acceleration, but if you raise the gears in the tranny so that even with 4.11 gears out back you have the same acceleration but now a new higher top speed, but you could go to like 5.11 rear gears and get that acceleration back up, but with the tall gears you wouldnt be shifting from 1st, untill later, like 40-50 mph (maybe more).
2: would it be worth having a manual that you prob wont even get out of 1st gear in?
3: what i said up above is just an example, i donno i might go with 5.38 rear and slightly taller tranny gears then stated above.
why go for such a high top speed with that kind of acceleration? if i do get the chance to take it to a drag strip i will blow past alot of stuff.
in the end it shouldnt be much diffrent then a normal car with 4.11 gears out back, just with a higher top speed.
4: what do you think?
auto or manual? would it be worth it in the end? is auto any good for drift or autocross?
Let's see here....
1. Any roadracing (including drift) would be best off with a manual tranny. You are more able to control the amount of power to the wheels with the stick shift. Imagine drifting, and having the tranny shift, and you lose your wheelspin.
2. Drag racing. AUTOMATIC!!!!! Best launch. No missed shifts. Lightning fast shifts.
1: would an automatic tranny be any good in drift, or auto cross? (id like to try both of them atleast once)
i orginally planned to go with a t56 but now i am un sure if that would be a good thing or not, some ppl go with 4.11 gears out back for acceleration, but if you raise the gears in the tranny so that even with 4.11 gears out back you have the same acceleration but now a new higher top speed, but you could go to like 5.11 rear gears and get that acceleration back up, but with the tall gears you wouldnt be shifting from 1st, untill later, like 40-50 mph (maybe more).
2: would it be worth having a manual that you prob wont even get out of 1st gear in?
3: what i said up above is just an example, i donno i might go with 5.38 rear and slightly taller tranny gears then stated above.
why go for such a high top speed with that kind of acceleration? if i do get the chance to take it to a drag strip i will blow past alot of stuff.
in the end it shouldnt be much diffrent then a normal car with 4.11 gears out back, just with a higher top speed.
4: what do you think?
auto or manual? would it be worth it in the end? is auto any good for drift or autocross?
Let's see here....
1. Any roadracing (including drift) would be best off with a manual tranny. You are more able to control the amount of power to the wheels with the stick shift. Imagine drifting, and having the tranny shift, and you lose your wheelspin.
2. Drag racing. AUTOMATIC!!!!! Best launch. No missed shifts. Lightning fast shifts.
Matt365
09-20-2005, 09:24 PM
actually, my tranny has over haul kit and other mods, so its currently rated at 500 plus torque, so yes, it would handle it if i can find a way to bolt onto it.
Savage Messiah
09-20-2005, 10:27 PM
No Matt, the v6 and V8 have different input shafts and bellhousings
Rally Sport
09-20-2005, 10:34 PM
Let's see here....
2. Drag racing. AUTOMATIC!!!!! Best launch. No missed shifts. Lightning fast shifts.
Yeah definatley.. because most automatics or I think all that Chevy has right now are 4 speed, and 4 speed is best for dragging, that is unless you're for highway racing.
2. Drag racing. AUTOMATIC!!!!! Best launch. No missed shifts. Lightning fast shifts.
Yeah definatley.. because most automatics or I think all that Chevy has right now are 4 speed, and 4 speed is best for dragging, that is unless you're for highway racing.
Matt365
09-20-2005, 11:39 PM
No Matt, the v6 and V8 have different input shafts and bellhousings
bahhhhh that freaking sucks i just spent 2 grand on a dam useless tranny.
bahhhhh that freaking sucks i just spent 2 grand on a dam useless tranny.
Rally Sport
09-21-2005, 12:09 AM
bahhhhh that freaking sucks i just spent 2 grand on a dam useless tranny.
What kind of tranny? Also that sucks.
What kind of tranny? Also that sucks.
Matt365
09-21-2005, 12:24 AM
stock tranny that comes on a v6 bird, now it has overhaul kit, new solenoids, xtra clutch plates, and yahoo shift kit in it.
Savage Messiah
09-21-2005, 01:44 AM
auto tranny?
instantkevin
09-21-2005, 02:49 PM
don't change the topic... that's annoying... if you have something else to talk about start your own thread... it's just as easy (one button to click).
Mr. Lous is exactly right. for drag races you can change the stall in an auto to give much better launches. in drift you want to be able to control your gears manually, which is why manual is easier. however you can adapt an auto to work like a manual for drifting. get the Transgo shift plate (which will hold gears manually, and prevent the transmission from shifting when you don't want it to). and also get a ratchet shifter, this will make shifting a lot easier and prevent overshifting into other gears accidentally which happens easily with the factory shifter. This setup can/will give you the best of both worlds.
Mr. Lous is exactly right. for drag races you can change the stall in an auto to give much better launches. in drift you want to be able to control your gears manually, which is why manual is easier. however you can adapt an auto to work like a manual for drifting. get the Transgo shift plate (which will hold gears manually, and prevent the transmission from shifting when you don't want it to). and also get a ratchet shifter, this will make shifting a lot easier and prevent overshifting into other gears accidentally which happens easily with the factory shifter. This setup can/will give you the best of both worlds.
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