Maxima or Integra

I drive a 1997 Maxima that I smashed recently so I am selling it. (repaired of course) Anyhow I love the car but want a manual. Recently my friend told me to get an integra with him. An LS model with a civic si head. This makes it comparable with a GSR I think and with a few mods almost as fast as a Maxima with a 5 speed. So if anyone has any Idea on what car...please tell me before I make the big decision =P

Your better off buying a GSR integra than getting an LS with the head swap. Putting the B16a (DOHC VTEC Civic engine) head on the B18b block (DOHC non-VTEC Integra engine) can be done, but its easy to screw it up and cause major head aches futher down the line. Its not a bolt in job, and requires some machine work, and rewiring. If your a profesional engine builder, or are getting a pro to do the work then you have a pretty good chance it will all work, maybe.
However your better off just buying the GSR model, that way you get the B18c which is already a DOHC VTEC, and im pretty sure should be a lot faster than a Maxima, it will cost a little more than an LS, but shouldn't be any more than the cost of the B16a head swap.

Also remember that the Integra is a VERY diffrent car to your old Maxima, its lighter, handles a LOT better, has less room inside, will be a little noisier, etc. Take one for a long test drive first, just to be sure its the style of car you would like to own.

:sun: :sun:

or you could just get a Type R :)

After talking to people and finding out pro's/con's I hear from people at DYNAMIC autosports that it is done successfully on a regular basis with 0 problems. A maxima however is still faster then these cars according to stats I have seen on a Maxima...so until i find a car, I wont know what I am going to do. And remember teh GSR also has a higher insurance.

i'll only say it one more time............. TYPE R

A type R for what when a maxima can do this

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http://www.seas.ucla.edu/%7Efarhana/ButtonWillow/NabilvsR.jpg

That Maxima is ahead of that Integra because the Integra is braking.

The integra was just giving up =)


http://www.geocities.com/maximasesc/images/Nissanownsyou.jpg

they couldnt all be breaking?

Originally posted by Nickkzx
A type R for what when a maxima can do this

http://www.seas.ucla.edu/%7Efarhana/ButtonWillow/NabilvsR.jpg



Thats just a pic of 3 cars driving down a track/road. It dosnt really show anything. The maxima maybe a great car, but its no Sports car, and regardless of how fast you think it is in a straight line round a corner it will get walked on by even a GSR teg, let alone a Type-R.

You drive a Honda Dont you?

Yeah stock, it will get outhandled, but it is far more powersome then any 4 bangin honda except an S2000 obviously. And also check out www.maximadriver.com You would be suprise at what a Maxima can do, sure would whoop your hondas ass in a second!

maxima is a 4 door family car..... a modded Type R could destroy a modded Maxima, stock too

Your just another Moron being decieved by the 4 doors....
Type R 1/4 15.0
Maxima 1/4 15.0

Adding a modification to a v6 motor adds quiet a bit more power just because the engine is bigger it notices bigger gains. Anyhow obviouly a modded type R will take out a stock Maxima, but common sense, two of them with equal mods would be wel equal?

By the way, my original question was SHOULD I GET A LS INTEGRA BECAUSE TYPE R'S ARE OVER PLAYED WHERE I LIVE OR SHOULD I GET A NISSAN MAXIMA. YOU GUYS CAN GO PISS OF WITH YOUR TYPE R BULL SHIT BECAUSE THEY AREANT AS FAST AS THEY ARE PLAYED OUT TO BE

Originally posted by Nickkzx
Your just another Moron being decieved by the 4 doors....
Type R 1/4 15.0
Maxima 1/4 15.0

Adding a modification to a v6 motor adds quiet a bit more power just because the engine is bigger it notices bigger gains. Anyhow obviouly a modded type R will take out a stock Maxima, but common sense, two of them with equal mods would be wel equal?

By the way, my original question was SHOULD I GET A LS INTEGRA BECAUSE TYPE R'S ARE OVER PLAYED WHERE I LIVE OR SHOULD I GET A NISSAN MAXIMA. YOU GUYS CAN GO PISS OF WITH YOUR TYPE R BULL SHIT BECAUSE THEY AREANT AS FAST AS THEY ARE PLAYED OUT TO BE

That's not how you talk to an AF senior, you fuckin newbie.... i'm not gunna start flaming you cause that's not the AF way. Type R 0-60mph is around 6.3s while the maxima is around 7.8s. That's a quite a big difference, and the V6 in the maxima won't do shit for you cause the car weighs a fuckin ton more than the Type R.... don't forget about the shit ass handling you get compared with the Type R, the Type R is the best handling FWD car, imagine if you but strut bars on it and other handling mods, that would be an amazing handling car. Equally modded Type R vs. Maxima..... the Type R would destroy.



.............. moron

and how could a type R be overplayed...... they look almost the same as the LS, so therefor in your eyes all integras should be overplayed........ do you know how many type Rs were made? there is no way there are more Type Rs than LS integras where you live, and even if there was, why would you wanna get the shittier car, you would get the shit car just because you think too many people have the good car...... sorry but that's juss dumb

Actually where I live, M3's are the most over played car...you see at least 5-10 a day. Next over played car is the C class mercedes, then like GSR and Type R. There is at least one Lexus at every stop light, excursions are in place of minivans.....so yeah they are over played where I live =)

so you're still an idiot for getting a shitty car, just because more people have the good car

In my neighborhood people always get a wide range of cars, nobody wants to get the same car as somebody else on the street, everyone wants to have a better car than the neighbors :) The only car that i see more than one of everyday is the Mercedes SL500......... it seems like every old person has the damn car (including my dad :D)

Are all americans so stupid to drive japanese mother@#$%ing cars?? :huh:

You all should go to the doctor and check your.... :mad:

what's up with all these newbies talkin so much shit?
If you don't like japanese cars than stay out of the japanese forums!! My family doesn't own any Japanese cars, but I like them

we only own euro cars

you're right, best thing about ls is the insurance cost....way way lower than a gs-r, even thou i have a gs-r myself....a friend of mine pays pennies for his turbo'd ls, while i'm paying much more for the gs-r.....and he's blowing past me now w/ that thing.....

only other benefit of ls over type r is many more paint colors to choose from, lol.....

integ over maxima unless you have a family or sumthin'....integ is the real racer, ain't no real racing in a family sedan, even thou it has awesome performance....that's only my personal opinion....

good luck thou....

The new Altimas come with a V6 with I believe 260 hp and does the 1/4 in 14.0 and goes from 0-60 in less than 6 seconds (5.7 I believe). The new 4 cylinder Altimas have around 176 hp. I saw a review of this car on Speedvision, cant remember who in particular was doing the tests. Oh yeah, the Mustang Cobra w/ 320 hp is only .3 sec faster than the 4-door family car Altima!

http://www.motortrend.com/july01/altima/altima_f.html
Nissan is doing it right! Check out the Nissan forums too for more info on this topic...

Nissans are great cars but dont confuse a maxima with a twinturbo300zx or a skyline. The maximas are not built for good quick responsive handling and their suspensions arent that great. you say that "a maxima can run 15s", well anyone can make a car run under 10s, even integs. just depends on how much $$ u have. If you have the $$$ why not just get your self a s2000 with a comptech supercharger? It have 340hp at the wheels, easily run under 14s. maybe 13s?:flash: :flash: :flash: cant go wrong with honda. get a GSR or type R.

uhm. I own a 98 GS-R and well..let me see...I dont quite know about 97 maxima..but a 2001 and up maxima..would own any integra on the road..straight line, plus the 2001 maxima's skidpad is someone near .90 which isnt quite that bad either...it has a killer 255hp V6, in a 3400 lb 4 door. check out those #'s I think it calls for easilly mid 14's or lower. stock. like I said I dunno bout 97, but I do know ti has the same engine as the 255hp 2001...so it cant be THAT far off... ive heard 15.0's btu ive heard 14's also...a type R would'nt quite sqeeze anything better than 14.8 correct? just my 2 cents. but I would still rather own my GS-R, long live vtec..great great system. oh and btw im a old 94 mustang GT user...and with my gt I could only manage a 14.8@93mph...in a 5.0..stock but..you know....my teg GS-R runs 15.2s, a catback, headers and mabey camshaft upgrade..and Im rdy for 14's :)

-blue
just my 2 cents.

First of all by no way are Maximas and Integras in the same league!
For one a Maxima is a LUXURY SEDAN! Whereas the integra comes in three trims family sedan, family coupe, sporty coupe!
Secondly (some may be offended) but the GSR and Type R are NOT sports cars! If you wanna race them thinking that they are racers go ahead but they aren't! They are a four seater coupe with some SERIOUSLY POWERFUL engines!!!!
In my opinion nothing is a sports car unless it has two requirements:
1 - a two seater!
2 - at least 6 cylinders!

Dont get me wrong the Acc is a bad ass car however it's not a racer!
I personally would never pay money for anything again associaed with the H but I respect an Integra thats why you would never see my racing any Acc with the model ending with an "R" which brings me to my conclusion ...... I though I'd never say this when comparing Honda and Nissan.. But it would blow the shyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt outta a Maxima
Not even close no comparison!
But I'd still prefer a Maxima cause its got way more power/torque and horsepower NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH ACCELERATION!!!!!:rolleyes:

If you are gonna flame me first take this into consideration


well anyone can make a car run under 10s, even integs. just depends on how much $$ u have. If you have the $$$ why not just get your self a s2000


I rest my case, That says it all!

This is a very simple situation. I "used" to drive honda's. I thought that they were the coolest thing and so wonderful. The a got a deal on a Maxima, and to put it bluntly, now I know better.
The only reason to get the Integra over a Max is if you want to completely rice it out. I'm not ripping on them at all, I have respect for them, but there just not as much car as a maxima. As far as power goes I don't care what you do to a honda engine, there's just no replacement for displacement. Also uunless you are on a track V-TEC is nothing more then a way to get higher horsepower numbers for marketing purposes. And can anyone say torque I won't even go there.

If you go the Integra route I agree that you should go no lower then a GSR model. As far as a Max, get a manuel it makes a huge difference. I will bow down to the stock handleing of the go cart... I mean integra. But with a few slight suspension models and good tires a max will eb right there.

P.S. If you are into all that engine moding stuff, then absolutely get a maxima and tweak the transmission for faster 0-60 and 1/4 miles. The late 90's maxima tranny's are deffinately gear for a smooth ride rather then being quick, there is HUGE potential here. E-mail me for more info on anything.


Both are great cars its a personal taste issue good luck.

Originally posted by Nickkzx
Your just another Moron being decieved by the 4 doors....
Type R 1/4 15.0
Maxima 1/4 15.0

Adding a modification to a v6 motor adds quiet a bit more power just because the engine is bigger it notices bigger gains. Anyhow obviouly a modded type R will take out a stock Maxima, but common sense, two of them with equal mods would be wel equal?

By the way, my original question was SHOULD I GET A LS INTEGRA BECAUSE TYPE R'S ARE OVER PLAYED WHERE I LIVE OR SHOULD I GET A NISSAN MAXIMA. YOU GUYS CAN GO PISS OF WITH YOUR TYPE R BULL SHIT BECAUSE THEY AREANT AS FAST AS THEY ARE PLAYED OUT TO BE

What was the fastest you seen Maxima gone? I have driven a 14.3 stock 97 ITR.

Originally posted by M-type
Nissans are great cars but dont confuse a maxima with a twinturbo300zx or a skyline. The maximas are not built for good quick responsive handling and their suspensions arent that great. you say that "a maxima can run 15s", well anyone can make a car run under 10s, even integs. just depends on how much $$ u have. If you have the $$$ why not just get your self a s2000 with a comptech supercharger? It have 340hp at the wheels, easily run under 14s. maybe 13s?:flash: :flash: :flash: cant go wrong with honda. get a GSR or type R.

I don't think you would want the Comptech SC. It does nothing good for the car anyways. S2000 stock can run high 13's already.

The only force induction I will consider is Speedcraft's T4 Turbo. Gain through the entire powerband unlike Comptech. 8psi = 400hp at the crank for F20C engine.

Originally posted by 98vtech
uhm. I own a 98 GS-R and well..let me see...I dont quite know about 97 maxima..but a 2001 and up maxima..would own any integra on the road..straight line, plus the 2001 maxima's skidpad is someone near .90 which isnt quite that bad either...it has a killer 255hp V6, in a 3400 lb 4 door. check out those #'s I think it calls for easilly mid 14's or lower. stock. like I said I dunno bout 97, but I do know ti has the same engine as the 255hp 2001...so it cant be THAT far off... ive heard 15.0's btu ive heard 14's also...a type R would'nt quite sqeeze anything better than 14.8 correct? just my 2 cents. but I would still rather own my GS-R, long live vtec..great great system. oh and btw im a old 94 mustang GT user...and with my gt I could only manage a 14.8@93mph...in a 5.0..stock but..you know....my teg GS-R runs 15.2s, a catback, headers and mabey camshaft upgrade..and Im rdy for 14's :)

-blue
just my 2 cents.

2001 Maxima had 227hp. You do know skidpad # had a lot more to do with tire size than anything. Type R have done better than 14.8 seconds! Also for your information the Pre-2002 Maxima pulls .85 on skidpad!

Originally posted by CanadianG
First of all by no way are Maximas and Integras in the same league!
For one a Maxima is a LUXURY SEDAN! Whereas the integra comes in three trims family sedan, family coupe, sporty coupe!
Secondly (some may be offended) but the GSR and Type R are NOT sports cars! If you wanna race them thinking that they are racers go ahead but they aren't! They are a four seater coupe with some SERIOUSLY POWERFUL engines!!!!
In my opinion nothing is a sports car unless it has two requirements:
1 - a two seater!
2 - at least 6 cylinders!

Dont get me wrong the Acc is a bad ass car however it's not a racer!
I personally would never pay money for anything again associaed with the H but I respect an Integra thats why you would never see my racing any Acc with the model ending with an "R" which brings me to my conclusion ...... I though I'd never say this when comparing Honda and Nissan.. But it would blow the shyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyt outta a Maxima
Not even close no comparison!
But I'd still prefer a Maxima cause its got way more power/torque and horsepower NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH ACCELERATION!!!!!:rolleyes:

I don't agree because a lot of the world's sports car would not fit that requirement then.

It should be this

1. Mid-engine setup
2. Rear wheel drive

Originally posted by cdx910
This is a very simple situation. I "used" to drive honda's. I thought that they were the coolest thing and so wonderful. The a got a deal on a Maxima, and to put it bluntly, now I know better.
The only reason to get the Integra over a Max is if you want to completely rice it out. I'm not ripping on them at all, I have respect for them, but there just not as much car as a maxima. As far as power goes I don't care what you do to a honda engine, there's just no replacement for displacement. Also uunless you are on a track V-TEC is nothing more then a way to get higher horsepower numbers for marketing purposes. And can anyone say torque I won't even go there.

If you go the Integra route I agree that you should go no lower then a GSR model. As far as a Max, get a manuel it makes a huge difference. I will bow down to the stock handleing of the go cart... I mean integra. But with a few slight suspension models and good tires a max will eb right there.

P.S. If you are into all that engine moding stuff, then absolutely get a maxima and tweak the transmission for faster 0-60 and 1/4 miles. The late 90's maxima tranny's are deffinately gear for a smooth ride rather then being quick, there is HUGE potential here. E-mail me for more info on anything.


Both are great cars its a personal taste issue good luck.

What's the the rice out statement? Which car comes with altezza rear lights stock?

Nickkzx

The only way you should consider LS is if you are going turbocharging.

Originally posted by gang$tarr


while the maxima is around 7.8s. That's a quite a big difference, and the V6 in the maxima won't do shit for you cause the car weighs a fuckin ton
............. moron

:rolleyes:

Here we go again with these bogus #'s. First of all, the Max is pretty light for it's catogory. Around 3000lbs. for the '95 GXE. (baseline)

And AGAIN 7.8 is for the 2k Auto's becuase they are fatter and don't redline. (revvs limited at 5600 i think)

The '95-99 Maxima automagics will do 0-60 in around 7.3-7.6, depending on the year/trim/track conditions.

The '95-99 Maxima Manuals will do 0-60 in around 6.5-6.9, dependin on year/trim/track conditions.

Yes, the Maxima's suspension is rather cheep, but with some strut bars, springs/shocks/struts, wider tires, it can handle damn good. The integra's just came that way from the factory becuase it's a different type of car.

Personally I love having a car that's somewhat of a sleeper to unknowledgeable people that has the power, and ROOM to haul 6 of your friends and their mothers luggage around in. :)

I've got a '99 5-speed SE and I really don't think they are the fast. The brand new ones a probobly down there but I woudl say more like 7 or so.

Lets seee I think I'll go Maxima if I had a choice. Not saying it would outrun an Acc but between the two the Maxima is definately in a much higher class!

Moving to Car Comparisons. I don't know why it lasted this long without being moved. Sorry. :)

the acc get roasted!

i think a gsr will smoke the pants of a maxima....

Im not contesting that the GSR wouldn't out run a Maxima. What Im sayin is that a Maxima is more of a car than a 'Teg.
Bigger engine
More trunik space
More interior space
and definately more $$$$
so if I was offered I'd definately choose and SE over a GSR without hesitation

integra being less of a car?????? well it just depends on if you want a 2 dr or 4 dr. dont buy a 2dr and whine about not having enough doors haha.

I posted that response over summer under Nickkzx.....haha boy am I glad I didnt get a lousy integra =)

They are slow and uncomfortable, I would take a maxima anyday, especially an 02 with 255HP

is that why u got a 97? haha hey i live near orange, maybe i'll see you on the street and teach you a lesson or two.

I run bone stock....drag racing is pure pointless, its all about how much money you drop into your motor....but dont race my maxima....race some of the guys that do a few mods w/mnaul transmission.....the maxima is such a stronger/better/more powerful/nicer looking car then your little gsr

hey keep telling yourself that when you go to sleep, maybe it might come true. by the way i've already taught those guys. peace!

sure thing buddy......whatever makes you feel all warm and tingley inside

This topic is totally senseless the way it´s going!! Why do you ask about our opinions when you like the Maxima better anyways?? Just buy your superfly ice-daddy Maxima and let us drive our Tegs or whatever. IMO it´s really uncool to go into another forum and flame the people for what car they are driving. I´m sure that a stock ITR will kill a stock Maxima on the track and that´s all what´s counting IMO. The rest is just a question of money! Peace!

:rolleyes:

Originally posted by M-type
is that why u got a 97? haha hey i live near orange, maybe i'll see you on the street and teach you a lesson or two.

Originally posted by Nickkzx
Your just another Moron being decieved by the 4 doors....
Type R 1/4 15.0
Maxima 1/4 15.0

Adding a modification to a v6 motor adds quiet a bit more power just because the engine is bigger it notices bigger gains. Anyhow obviouly a modded type R will take out a stock Maxima, but common sense, two of them with equal mods would be wel equal?

By the way, my original question was SHOULD I GET A LS INTEGRA BECAUSE TYPE R'S ARE OVER PLAYED WHERE I LIVE OR SHOULD I GET A NISSAN MAXIMA. YOU GUYS CAN GO PISS OF WITH YOUR TYPE R BULL SHIT BECAUSE THEY AREANT AS FAST AS THEY ARE PLAYED OUT TO BE I have raced my neighbors Type-R Integra and it is quick but no top end what so ever. I beat him by 2 car lenghts. Who gives a shit about 0-60 times. It's the 1/4 mile times that count.

0-60 and 1/4 Mile or even a 2 Mile run. It's still straight and require no turning skills. It's what you can do on the track that counts.

F20 dont hate on the maxima :flipa:

I don't hate Maxima. Just far too many people think 1/4 mile run is a true test to one car's ability.

UHH IT IS A TRUE TEST OF A CARS ABILLITY.....SO IS HANDLING.....0-60.....and slalom

YOur a real genious areant ya

How is going in a straightline a true test of one car's ability. If that's what you care you should be looking at American Muscle. The ultimate test is lapping Nurburgring track in Germany.

in that case wouldnt a VW, which holds the world record be a bit more of a car for that task

anyhow, how is turning a true test...use common sense, there is an argument around this from every angle.

F20C.....how old are you by the way?

Straightline speed is just the brute force the engine puts out. However doing well on a track requires a nice balanced of things. Which is by far a better judgement of car's ability than going straight!!

dont make me be a jack ass and have a smart ass remark and say

your only saying that cuz pussy non torque honda motors are under powered and dont drag as well a motor with torque.

just drive your Audi and sell your honda....at least you will still have a cool car :)

Ask anybody which is a better judgement for car's ability; Drag or Track.

Originally posted by JBL85
dont make me be a jack ass and have a smart ass remark and say

your only saying that cuz pussy non torque honda motors are under powered and dont drag as well a motor with torque.

just drive your Audi and sell your honda....at least you will still have a cool car :) Maybe Hondas don´t have much torque but that doesn´t matter much IMO because they are still "fast" and have got a very good handling! Even my grandma would be able to drive fast on a straight street but when it´s about cornering....You don´t need any skills for that and it really doesn´t show how good a car is.

Originally posted by JBL85
UHH IT IS A TRUE TEST OF A CARS ABILLITY.....SO IS HANDLING.....0-60.....and slalom

YOur a real genious areant ya How old are YOU, dude????:rolleyes: It´s maybe a true test of a cars engine performance but not of the car in general!!
By the way, F20C we should ignore his flaming and try to help him with his massive personal problems! Maybe our "Street Racing Pimp" has lost his balls in one of his dangerous 1/4 mile races so that he needs to flame about other people´s cars or anything like that. My advice would be: go and buy a tractor! They have got a lot of torque and their handling will suck on the track, too! You know, over here we don´t care about the 1/4 mile because the guy with the most money will win most of the time and that´s really unsporty IMO! Like it is unsporty to flame on other people´s cars! You´re just an ignorant %"(()$/&"= but definetly not pimp! By the way, I like Nissan, too! So I´m not writing that because I don´t like the Maxima or because it maybe faster than a Honda. I give a shit about that. There will always be someone with a faster car than mine. Only morons think they are pimp because they are driving a phat car. You aren´t pimp for what you have got but for what you are!! And you have got nothing else than massive personal problems I would guess.....:( :rolleyes: Go and smoke some weed!:bonghitte

Im not gonna waste my time reading your life story in that thick paragraph because your probably just saying how great honda is....their motors are still weak....I guess i like motors with some torque in them