94' Grand Am speed

Does a 94 Grand Am go fast? I see they only have 115 hp, is that even a little fast

Faster that walking, quiker than a bicycle. It'll only go as fast as it can go, with no relevance to HP. What GM lists as HP is usually under rated for better insurance prices. From what I've seen anyway. This isnt always so, but a 99 GA GT says 185 hp, a GA SE says 175hp. My 99 SE was tested at 182hp(at the wheels) with nothing changed. So they vary from car to car. So, any car is faster than walkin. \,,/

oh thanks, I thought it that was too low of HP. Should I make mine a project car? I mean will it be worth it.

what do you mean project car? If you were going to race at the track, you'd need alot of work and money. 115hp is low at the track, but 115hp is easy on the gas. DO you have a quad 4, 2.4L ? I'm sure if you search these threads, you will find all kinds ideas on things you could do to improve the HP which would give better performance. I'd start simple and inexpensive. \,,/

I got a quad 4

the quad 4 i believe is a 2.3....Mines a 95 SE and i found it to be listed at 150HP. So i guess its where ya look for the numbers at haha but its certainly more than 115 trust me. As far a project car goes its not really the best car to upgrade. Theres no mods for the engine other than maybe putting on new headers. They dont even manufacture cold air intakes for the 2.3 (closest they make is 2.2 and 2.4) although you can easily just make one yourself to fit. So basically the only thing you can do is add a body kit and tint your windows lol. If you are willing to spend some time and money i understand that the 3100 V6 is a good swap engine. Theres a ton more mods you can do to it



xeroinfinity, where did you get the stats on HP that you mentioned above??

GASE 95, the manuals that come with the car, and the dealershits is where I seen what the HP is Supposed to be. Some Chilton Manuals list these also as GT 185hp, and SE 175hp thats a 3.4L engine though.

My 99' SE now is around 240hp now, but I've spent a little over 3k$ on the engine and exhaust. It was DYNO'd at the wheels, 255hp with 93 octane and a fuel additive(i went easy on it).upgraded to the 62mm throttle body, upper intake ported polished lower intake was only ported to fit upper IT, rocker rollers, perf. pushrods, headers, dual oil filters, tranny kooler, custom duals, super chip , and of course the CAI.

So frankieG, you can do alot with a 3.4L, but there are turbos, and alot of other fun stuf you can do for your Quad 4. It just costs a little money. Maybe GASE 95 is right about not the best car to spend lots of cash on, but it is ur car. Have fun with ur moding and keep it safe!

the quad 4 i believe is a 2.3....

Just wanted to state that have been many versions of the quad 4, 2.3L and 2.4L, SOHC & DOHC, the HP will be different depending upon rods, displacement, heads, intakes, how many cams it has, ect . . .

here is a link that I found that has worked out well for me to make sure I got the right stuff for my motor, im sure its been posted here before, but for all the newbies here it is again ... everything I've looked into appears to be accurate

http://www.babcox.com/editorial/ar/ar40032.htm

ps, if you know what your doing im sure with the right parts a SOHC could become a DOHC pretty easily & cheaply, especially if your doing a rebuild & can put the right crank, rods & pistons in, don't forget to make sure the valves have enough clearance!

I have a DOHC 2.3L that im still working the bugs out of, but im impressed with what I can get that little motor to do.

hey Gmack thanks for the link. I found it very usfull myself. :)

I had an SE with the V6 and it ran like a scalded dog. 94's were also one of the least troublesome years from a quality satndpoint. My only complaint was that the thing was a squeak and rattle champion thanks to the stiff suspension and low profile tires it came with.

I've had my 95 gt quad 4 up to around 130mph on a track, and with such a light car you really don't want to go much faster as they start getting awfully light in the front end. And according to the stealership the 95 gt with the dohc quad motor it was 180 hp stock, I added a CAI, w41 cams, full length header and custom exhaust, it screams....

My 93' w/95 3.3L was built to blast. Bored, stroked, lower compression to9:1, for the turbo, hella tuff tranny. I only had it on the track once, toped out at 160mph+. But Skibum1111 my frontend didnt get light, it was my rear, think the wing was causeing lift and one day at 140mph on the damn road(i was young and stupid) made a pass and when I pulled back in the right lane the car FLEW into the ditch. I survied the car didnt, looking for the photos so I can show everyone how speed kills. \,,/

What were you using for a wing? Couldn't have been factory, all that thing does is keep you straight when it gets windy out...

ya it was the factory wing. I dont think it was made or tested at those speeds. Weird things happen when you're going too fast. It did keep the car strait in the wind, better than the new models do.

GASE 95, i think i can do alot more than tint my windows and add a body kit. I can put a dvd player in it put racing seats, a dash cover blue fog lights, paint it, put 20 inch rims on it. I can do alot more.

I have a 94 GA with the 6 cylinder in it and up to the time that I parked it, it ran great. I do massive traveling and I have had mine up to an easy 90-95 and still had pedal left to push. My problems only started after I parked mine. Mine has over 170K on it and has had very little motor work done to it. I highly reccommend the car!

There are lots of mods for lots of cars. I just try and be original and step outside the box. Do things people arent doing. GA's are great cars to drive and own. Thats why we are all here. I'd like to take a GA and make it AWD with a V8. Lower it to the ground, throw on some Candy Green metalic. That would be a sweet a** ride!

Have fun with the mods. \,,/ \,,/

My 93' w/95 3.3L was built to blast. Bored, stroked, lower compression to9:1, for the turbo, hella tuff tranny.
Any 1/4 mile track time?

ya I do 11.4's @ around 126mph, with pump gas, the cheap stuff. Some more some less this was the average time outta 6-7 runs. It was a hot day, could have gotten alittle I think. The engine was new, 300miles on it. I took it easy, was running it around 4lbs of boost. Took me a month just to get it running. Alot of advanced things had to be delt with. I wasn't famillure with turbos, just found a used one of a Civic and made it work. Had to build a custom intercooler.

Today you can probley go buy off the shelf what I had to fabricate yrs ago. It lasted 2yrs, till the crash, and I enjoyed every minute of it. That was before traction control, was hell on tires though. LOL!

Pics??

Sounds like a hell of a set-up. How much did the car weigh?

Factory weight. Plus the extra weight from the turbo/intrecooler set up which wasnt much. A big speaker box w/ 2x 12s. It was a street eating machine. I kept the engine/tranny it wasnt damaged, still runs i'm sure, just been stored in my garage for 8yrs. might have a few fury gremlins livin in it . I spent more on the engine build than most newer used cars cost. I believe it was close to $8k. But that was full race parts, thought if it was good for the track ought to be great on the street.

So frankieG we got you convinced it's a Good car to mod?

How much power to the wheels man??

4 PSI and trapping 126MPH? That requires 500+ at the wheels. I just can't see that without more boost. What was the displacement?

3.3L bored 35over with a sleeve. it was beyond max bore so I stuffed a sleeve in case I bunrt a cylinder. YA it was a 4-5psi and at the wheels on a DYNO it turned 465hp with 93octane and fuel additive/alkyholl. track times were all with 83oct. at the same boost, just advanced the timming and turned up the fuel reg. This engine alone is close if not over 300hp, this did also have dual exhaust with no converter and high flow exteranl fuel pump. The turbo is a stage two w/custom bypass valves. With wimpy stock exhaust it made the headers glow in about 5 min. i'll find my track slips, they're with my fotos i cant find, well the wife cant find. And I have a build sheet somewhere on file.

WOWA! That was a MR. typo' above, I hadnt read what I wrote. Still , had really good times, but I did spend 7750$ on the motor not including teh near yr it took to build. It was 11.5@116.26, May 11, 95' round 8:30 am, when the gate opend. After noon times were slower due ambiant temps. rising was causing overheating. Also a little secret the rods were shortend to get more displacment, hehehe :) Some secrets I'll never share though... :)

As far as the wing discussion, wings were introduced back in the 60's to put downforce on the rear tires to give you traction, there isn't a reason to have them on a front wheel drive car!!! They are only there to make them appear more sporty, the downforce on the hood keeps traction there, the rear wheels follow. Will the rear wheels lift if your going fast enough, yes, but lets not confuse the wing on the back of a grand am and a real wing like the one on the back of a dodge dayton! Lets not even get into the park benches that are put on honda's by teenagers that have no idea what a 60's muscle car is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't do that to your ride, its a discrase to you and me! Now if we really want to get something started we could talk about tach's that are big enough to tell time & latitude and longitude! My ultimate dis came when a guy pulled up to a light with a honda and a 6" tach, "Nice tach man, does it tell time?" Forgot to mention I was riding in my buddy's shelby glhs charger at the time! Even my dis wasn't enough to get him to race us!

this was a wing, like the one on a plane. Daytonas you mean, they had big ass flopin wings.LOL! A nice body kit does look nice, may not be functional but looks real nice. Who needs a stinkin Tach anyway. Keep it outa da ditch \,,/

Mr Luos it was bored more than .035 more like to a 4.3L w/5lbs boost. i just moved so soon as i find those pics I'll post'm somewhere conveneant \,,/