Whats your stand?
Jergin01
08-08-2005, 07:35 PM
Recently, I came across this website. www.Turbonator.com It is a 79.99$ "supercharger," Do you think this will work at all or is this just another scam? Please post opinions.
Sen Sen
08-08-2005, 07:57 PM
Recently, I came across this website. www.Turbonator.com (http://www.Turbonator.com) It is a 79.99$ "supercharger," Do you think this will work at all or is this just another scam? Please post opinions.
Waste of money
The vortec head on the blazer already creates a swirl
http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines/vortec/index.htm
Waste of money
The vortec head on the blazer already creates a swirl
http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines/vortec/index.htm
MagicRat
08-08-2005, 08:03 PM
Massive scam of huge proportions.
Just using the term 'turbo' and 'supercharge' is factually incorrect and highly misleading because this thing has nothing to do with turbos or superchargers.
As they say, this thing is supposed to swirl the incoming air. But they are swirling the air in the wrong place.
All engines, for decades have relied on introducing turbulence, or swirling the incoming air fuel mixture to improve adomization and power. However, this is done in the combustion chamber itself.
Swirling the air in the intake tube will do nothing at all, since that swirled air has to go past the throttle blades, be split up into 4 to 8 individual runners, down an intake runner and past a valve, before its swirling can have an effect. Therefore, likely its turbulence will have no effect.
In fact, this turbulence may harm the engine power. K&N filters state in their advertising that their filters reduce intake turbulence to increase power.
Just using the term 'turbo' and 'supercharge' is factually incorrect and highly misleading because this thing has nothing to do with turbos or superchargers.
As they say, this thing is supposed to swirl the incoming air. But they are swirling the air in the wrong place.
All engines, for decades have relied on introducing turbulence, or swirling the incoming air fuel mixture to improve adomization and power. However, this is done in the combustion chamber itself.
Swirling the air in the intake tube will do nothing at all, since that swirled air has to go past the throttle blades, be split up into 4 to 8 individual runners, down an intake runner and past a valve, before its swirling can have an effect. Therefore, likely its turbulence will have no effect.
In fact, this turbulence may harm the engine power. K&N filters state in their advertising that their filters reduce intake turbulence to increase power.
ctesla
08-08-2005, 09:30 PM
a spacer (made with aluminum or phenolic (high temp plastic) or even wood) to increase runner length) or headers would be more worth your money, than the piece of 'turbo-tin' sheet metal add-on.
MagicRat is correct.
MagicRat is correct.
XPC2004
08-08-2005, 11:02 PM
If it were that simple, do you think manufactures would build this into their design? Hmmm... they don't... why? Cause it's hooey! Let's make one, here';s a pie pan, let's cut the bottom out, k, here ,, now take the scissors, k, make the blades, fold them.. voila, here sell it to ya for $10.
Had to through in my two cents and typos.
Had to through in my two cents and typos.
muzzy1maniac
08-09-2005, 04:41 AM
Come on! Does this really need to be asked?
If it sounds too good to be true - guess what? - it is!!!
If it sounds too good to be true - guess what? - it is!!!
dmbrisket 51
09-18-2005, 10:21 PM
they do work! just, they only work on vehicals that use a 'wet' intake manifold, meaning the air and gas go through the intake manifold, wheres with our blazers and trucks its a 'dry' intake, meaning just air, the fuel is added in individually by fuel injectors right to the cylender
Rick1488
09-19-2005, 12:09 AM
My uncle bought one similar to this and he said he does notice a moderate difference in mpg and horsepower. I myself don't think it will be a drastic change, but it will improve performance..
Cailen
09-19-2005, 12:53 AM
His moderate gain in mpg + hp is likely a placebo effect.
dmbrisket 51
09-19-2005, 01:25 AM
My uncle bought one similar to this and he said he does notice a moderate difference in mpg and horsepower. I myself don't think it will be a drastic change, but it will improve performance..
how will causing extra turbulence and drag INCREACE anything benificial such as hp, torque, or mpg??? as i said earlyer the only way these devices help is in a wet manifold, and wet manifolds went with the wind years upon years ago
how will causing extra turbulence and drag INCREACE anything benificial such as hp, torque, or mpg??? as i said earlyer the only way these devices help is in a wet manifold, and wet manifolds went with the wind years upon years ago
DINO55
09-19-2005, 11:37 AM
When I Bought my 98 the previous owner had one installed in the truck, I removed it in august of this year when I found it, I noticed my gas milage went up 1mpg since it's removal. HMMMMMM
wolfox
09-19-2005, 09:33 PM
THey are junk, and completely not at all needed on our engines. The "Vortec" engine design incorporates a very trick method of utilizing intake vortices to swirl the fuel/air mixture right at the injection port/intake valve. Our engines ALREADY do what this is trying to do. Makes no sense to put them on Fuel Injected vehicles where the effect does not reach that far into the engine block at all. On older carbureted engines with down-draft intakes/plenums with short runners....got nothing to loose. Swirling the air in this case would lead to a more uniform fuel/air mix. FI engines and in particular Vortec motors already DO THIS, it's a built in design. But personally? I would not push anything into my intake that looks like it could get blown apart under a throttle snap and injested. No F*cking way.
EDIT: Look at the little blurb under the picture of the engine in the center of this page, all will be clear... http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines/vortec/
EDIT: Look at the little blurb under the picture of the engine in the center of this page, all will be clear... http://www.gm.com/automotive/gmpowertrain/engines/vortec/
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