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Noises coming from front brake area


RedScorp
08-07-2005, 02:10 PM
I have an '02 GLS and recently changed the front pads. I've had some odd noises that have cropped up since then and perhaps someone may be able to give me an educated guess as to what may be causing them.

Noise #1
When baking up and applying the brakes a click is usually made. This sound is does not exist when the brakes are applied while driving forward.

Noise #2
When I cut the wheel sharply to turn around in the street (the wheel is cranked all the way) the brakes squeel very loudly. Similarly, this is the only time this noise happens too.

Noise #3
When I'm driving down a road that is slightly bumpy or across the road dots there is a rattle coming from the bront brake area also.

I've checked and rechecked to make sure the calipers were secured tightly and they both are, so I'm really at a complete loss for what all the noises are for. The rotors had already been turned a few weeks prior so all I did was change the pads with ceramics (is there something related to the pads possibly?)

Thanks in advance!

Scott

RedScorp
08-09-2005, 07:06 PM
***Update***

SO I went to the dealership on Monday morning. Let me first say that if the Glendora Hyundai here is turning into a service center that resembles Romero Ontario, or the one in Puente Hills, or Pep Boys I'll be in despair.

I described the problems to the service rep (a new guy). First he wrote the work order incorrectly and gave the service tech this description...
"Customer states brakes making noise backing up turning". I looked at it and that is not what I told him. He left out all the specifics that if I were the mechanic I'd want to know about before digging into someones car.

So the service rep. comes back and tells me I need new brakes up front. I told him I just replaced the pads 2 weeks ago. I upgraded to higher quality aftermarket ceramic pads. He blamed my problems on 3 things.

1. The rotors were unturned. I told him they had been turned 2 weeks prior to my replacing the brake pads. They are fine.

2. The pads are aftermarket and not factory. The pads are a much higher quality and grade ceramic thus this should have absolutely nothing to do with anything. Ceramic is much less noisy than semi-metallic so he really can't even argue that the noise is created from the new pads.

3. The pads were installed incorrectly and were grabbing the wrong direction. I had to contain myself so badly from laughing in his face. Pads installed the wrong direction? WHAT? That's impossible.

So after wasting all morning there I was too pissed to deal with his incompetence any longer. The last straw was him lecturing me about how he was a service manager for Pep Boys for "x" amount of years. I thought to myself this guy just said it all didn't he? Now I know why he's a moron. So in the end they took all morning to look at the car and put it back together and nothing is fixed at all.

Does anybody have any ideas???

Thanks.

lowsonoma1999
08-10-2005, 09:51 AM
The rattling noise is more than likely something was left loose. I have seen brake pads installed backwards before. We had a customer with a Sante Fe, we recommended front brakes to him, and he didn't like our price, so he replaced them himself, and the noise was still there. He brought it back to us. First, he didn't turn the rotors, and he had the pads installed upside down. (the curve of the pad was opposite of the curve of the rotor, if you know what I mean). So he ended up paying us to do the job correctly anyways. You might want to try another dealer though and see what they say.

RedScorp
08-10-2005, 06:54 PM
The pads are installed correctly. I assure you that. I'm not really sure how someone would manage to screw that up but I guess there's always someone who will. =)

The only thing I could think of as the culprit would be that the shims were left off. But I've never run into a problem with leaving shims off before. I guess it IS a HYUNDAI so in an educated guess could this be it?

RedScorp
08-10-2005, 06:57 PM
Now that I think about it. I did notice that the passenger side was without the two screws that go into the rotor. It didn't look like the rotor could move with them out, and in fact the noise wasn't present before the pad change so I didn't think that to be the problem either.

All in all, I'm not really wanting to pay the dealership to solve a few noises for a job that was done correctly. So again, an educated yes or no or further comment is much appreciated!

Thanks!

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