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i need to add a little weight and alot of muscle


speeddemonGtV6
08-07-2005, 10:52 AM
hey guys

im 16 and i am 5'10" and i weigh 122, i want to reach like 130 to 135 and have alot of muscle, right now i have hardly any fat on me and a good amout of muscle but i only started working out recently... any good suppliments (non-steroids) that would help out let me know, and any good eating habits also...... thanks

G-man422
08-07-2005, 12:24 PM
Fat people are going to hate you for this! LOL :lol2:

ghetto7o2azn
08-07-2005, 03:03 PM
steroids are always they way to go .... :icon16:

no but if u get serious u might want to look into glutamine (sp?) and some whey.... there is another thread in here just below this one and people say what brand they use...

as for eating habbits... 5 meals a day high in protein.. the portions will be smaller than an adverage meal on a 3 meal a day diet, but they should be that small... if you do get the shake, try to take it at least 2 times a day... also eat something before going to bed... this isnt usually recamended for "older" people, but at night your body does not take in any food and when it runs out, your body will start to use your muscles for energy, so thats no good.. a good source of protein is chicken breast, because its lean.. try to get most of your protein from your meals instead of your suppliments, because they are just that...

also, when you are on a high protein diet, you have to drink a lot of water to "flush out" the amino acids... try to drink water more often... just when you go to a restraunt or something skip the soda...

just try keep some of those things in mind as the basics...

speeddemonGtV6
08-08-2005, 10:32 AM
Fat people are going to hate you for this! LOL :lol2:

HAHAHAHA what can i say? lol

speeddemonGtV6
08-08-2005, 10:34 AM
steroids are always they way to go .... :icon16:

no but if u get serious u might want to look into glutamine (sp?) and some whey.... there is another thread in here just below this one and people say what brand they use...

as for eating habbits... 5 meals a day high in protein.. the portions will be smaller than an adverage meal on a 3 meal a day diet, but they should be that small... if you do get the shake, try to take it at least 2 times a day... also eat something before going to bed... this isnt usually recamended for "older" people, but at night your body does not take in any food and when it runs out, your body will start to use your muscles for energy, so thats no good.. a good source of protein is chicken breast, because its lean.. try to get most of your protein from your meals instead of your suppliments, because they are just that...

also, when you are on a high protein diet, you have to drink a lot of water to "flush out" the amino acids... try to drink water more often... just when you go to a restraunt or something skip the soda...

just try keep some of those things in mind as the basics...


Man thanks a ton, i was completely lost on what to eat for alot of protein... i was eating alot of PB sandwiches cuz they have some good protein but the chicken sounds better... thanks again

ghetto7o2azn
08-09-2005, 01:19 AM
you might also look into buying some protein bars... wouldnt recamend finding the one with the most protein and then buying a whole bunch because a lot of them taste like crap... try find one you like, as long as it has the stuff inside you need...

also, egg whites and milk have a lot of protein as well... milk usually has ~8g of protein per cup.. which is about for me 16g a glass... put it into perspective when an adverage protein bar has 20g

speeddemonGtV6
08-11-2005, 05:16 PM
yea i never really thought about getting protein bars b4 maybe ill go pick some up.

King Of Crunk
08-12-2005, 05:04 PM
5'10'' and 122lbs is a good amount of muscle? hehe, i'm 5'10'' and I weigh 205....oh well at least you're doing something about you're extreme skinniness....i am doing protein before i lift and then "Cell-tech" afterwards....i've gain about 6lbs of muscle in two weeks...it's insane...

ghetto7o2azn
08-12-2005, 09:16 PM
yes well unfortunately, i am trying to become stronger without gaining much weight since im supposed to wrestle in the 119 wt class next year.. but if i get any heavier i might just have to steal my friends varsity spot at 125 :icon16:

speeddemonGtV6
08-13-2005, 09:32 AM
5'10'' and 122lbs is a good amount of muscle? hehe, i'm 5'10'' and I weigh 205....oh well at least you're doing something about you're extreme skinniness....i am doing protein before i lift and then "Cell-tech" afterwards....i've gain about 6lbs of muscle in two weeks...it's insane...


Yeah i am skinny but i can at least bench more then i weigh lol, i dont think ill weigh 205 any time soo, dont know if i want to but whats this cell tech stuff?

King Of Crunk
08-13-2005, 12:02 PM
Yeah i am skinny but i can at least bench more then i weigh lol, i dont think ill weigh 205 any time soo, dont know if i want to but whats this cell tech stuff?
http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/graphics/Products/MuscleTech/cell_tech_2.jpg

I believe it works by dialating the oxygen receptors in your red blood cells so that they can absorb more oxygen, therefore speeding up your metabolism so you're able to use energy more efficiently...there's more info at---->www.muscletech.com i recomment doing this during wrestling without protein because protein tends to have alot of sugar in it so it makes it kind of hard NOT to gain weigh.....but when you're done with wrestling i would do protein before you lift and then Cell-tech afterwards...even if you don't gain size you'll notice that you're legs will be alot stronger right away, and then the rest of your body will follow...it's good stuff... :iceslolan

speeddemonGtV6
08-13-2005, 02:53 PM
how much do you get it for and can i find it at a local GNC?

kornflakes28546
08-13-2005, 03:18 PM
cell-tech isnt cheap but i does work better than reg. creatine. lift, eat, and wait. you're only 16, you're going to get bigger very soon naturally. if just eat and lift you'll make some nice gains.

King Of Crunk
08-13-2005, 06:41 PM
cell-tech isnt cheap but i does work better than reg. creatine. lift, eat, and wait. you're only 16, you're going to get bigger very soon naturally. if just eat and lift you'll make some nice gains.
He does have a good point.... i would wait a couple of years before hitting the weights hard with supplements and whatnot.... i'm sure you've heard the stories before.... too much lifting will bend growing bones or stunt growth blah blah blah....i don't know it they're true or not but i wouldn't want to risk it....but if you think this is what you want to do, I have gotten all of my protein, creatine, and multivitamins from my local GNC.... if you can't find em there you could try a local health club for that stuff.... :sunglasse

King Of Crunk
08-13-2005, 06:47 PM
i would start with protein right now and lifting monday wednesday fridays, that's what i did back in the day....protein is pretty much harmless and is a cheap buy if you buy the generic GNC brand stuff.....it's the same stuff but ALOT cheaper....like half price cheaper....and if you're going to be spending alot of money at GNC i suggest getting a gold card.... they've saved me a TON of money already and i don't know what i would do without it....if you have any more specific questions you can PM me if you like....my dad used to be a personal trainer so i'm pretty knowledgeable about range of motion and lifting...stuff like that.....good luck with your lifting....and make sure you run too, it doesn't mean anything if you're a big meathead that can't sprint 100 yards without passing out :lol2:

beyondloadedSE
08-14-2005, 08:25 PM
id would try to intake ~180 grams of protein throughout the day. Try and eat every 2 hours. Im in the situation you are. I'm about 5'11 and 150 lbs. Im ripped to shreds (4.9% bodyfat), but need more body mass. I've tried creatine and that stuff didn't even phase me. I took andro and gained about 7-8 lbs while I was on it, but lost it when I got off. Id seriously consider steroids, maybe just something in tablets like dianabol. You could probably pick some up for about $60-100.

ghetto7o2azn
08-14-2005, 10:18 PM
your a retard... no seriously

DO NOT TAKE STEROIDS

plus, it makes no sense to take over 1g of protien per lb of body weight because anything over that is just waisted anyways...

creatine only works when your on it.. its almost like a safe steroid...

King of Crunk,
i started working out when i was 13.. my parents both went to seperate doctors and have looked into it and sofar all the sources say that its just a myth.. there is no evidance that working out young stunts your growth..

ill also look into the cell-tech, but is it actually proven to work, or something that is just believed to work?

King Of Crunk
08-14-2005, 10:22 PM
it worked for me....shrugs*....that's all the proof i need...lol

King Of Crunk
08-14-2005, 10:35 PM
and do not take steriods dude.... although it if you want to slowly turn into a transexual without surgery you should do it...

beyondloadedSE
08-14-2005, 10:43 PM
i dont know why everybody makes a big deal over steroids? Everybody hypes them up so much more than what they really are. This isnt a miracle drug here. Its no more than hitting puberty again. Your body makes testosterone. Steroids adds more hormones (testosterone). Whats the big deal? I agree your balls can shrink with heavy dosages, but thats not long term. Clomid or 6OXO will help put estrogen back into your body to even things out. A doctor here locally actually prescribed steroids to my dad because his shoulder because its bothering him, and steroids can help strengthen joints. Doctors also prescribe streroids to help patients to increase their sex drive. I guarantee just about all the people that bash steroids havent taken them to know what theyre really like.

Btw, its recommened to ingest 1-1.5 times your bodyweight of protein content.

ghetto7o2azn
08-15-2005, 12:51 AM
those are a different kind of steroid used for medical uses... not to bulk up.. people do die from using illegal steroids... its not hype, its reality


amuse yourself

"Steroid inhalers have an important role in reducing deaths from asthma, local steroid injections are useful in treating painful joints and ligaments. Steroid creams are used extensively to treat eczema and other inflammatory skin conditions. Steroids make the whole immune system less active, which can be very useful in illnesses where there is an immune component - a huge number. Steroids are the ultimate anti-inflammatory drugs.

However steroid use in medicine is limited by very serious side effects in the body as a whole. That is why steroids tend to be used sparingly in local preparations such as sprays and creams, which ensure maximum steroid dose where it is needed, and minimum levels in the blood stream."



"Why do people abuse steroids?

So why on earth would anyone who is perfectly healthy want to take steroids? The reason is that one particular type, anabolic steroids, have another side effect which is to stimulate muscle growth. Sadly for the sports enthusiast, this effect only works well if steroid level in the body as a whole is quite high, and that guarantees problems with side effects.

Taking steroids won't increase muscle bulk without exercise but the normal response to exercise is exaggerated. "



"Anabolic steroid side effects

Typical problems you will find in people who abuse anabolic steroids include liver tumors and cancer, jaundice (yellow skin from liver failure), retention of fluid, high blood pressure, heart attacks and strokes, increases in LDL (dangerous form of cholesterol), kidney cancer, acne and trembling.

Men may find their testes shrink, sperm count falls with increase of infertility, their hair falls out, breasts start to develop, and prostate cancer becomes more likely. More than half of body-builder sterod abusers will typically experience enlarged breasts and shrunken male organs.

Women can start looking like men: growing beards, going bald, voice breaking - while their menstrual cycle changes or stops, and the clitoris enlarges.

Steroid abuse is particularly risky for teenagers, because it forces the body rapidly to adulthood, bones stop growing - permanently - and they reach puberty early.

Adolescents--growth halted prematurely through premature skeletal maturation and accelerated puberty changes.

And of course, steroid injecting carries all the other risks associated with other injecting drug use, such as infection with HIV, and hepatitis B or hepatitis C."
http://www.globalchange.com/steroids.htm

which i believe is why there is the myth going arround that weight lifting stunts your growth... there is no proof against weight lifting stunting growth.. though steroids do

"A typical post-workout meal would include 0.5 gram protein per kilo of bodyweight, taken together with perhaps a high carbohydrate drink with 1.5 gram carbohydrate per kilo bodyweight - containing maybe dextrose, maltodextrin or another high glycemic rated carbohydrate."
http://ezinearticles.com/?Bodybuilding-Protein&id=51954

heres the math

0.5g + 1.5g = 2g

1kg = ~2 lbs (2.2 to be more exact)

2g:2lbs = 1g:1lb ratio

I did not get this information only from the internet as well

Mark Phillipi came down to my school and talked about weightlifting.. he is the UNLV weight lifting coach and is on the worlds strongest man competition, although i think he stopped a year or two ago..

King Of Crunk
08-15-2005, 02:17 AM
u da man robert....i was about to put up a link about all the side effects and what not but you beat me to it... :thumbsup:

speeddemonGtV6
08-15-2005, 08:56 AM
thanks guys youve done a great job helpin out, i have to head to GNC today and pick some protein up..

King Of Crunk
08-15-2005, 11:30 AM
alright man, good luck with the lifting..

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