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'98 Prelude vs. 2001 GT-S


RedCavalierRacer
08-06-2005, 02:26 AM
Hey guys, I am looking at a '98 prelude SI for the same price as 2001 Celica GT-S. I want whatever car is faster and more reliable. Any suggestions?

blakscorpion21
08-06-2005, 11:17 AM
i think the celica is faster. there is a discusion about it in here. go to the very last page in the forum its on there.

RedCavalierRacer
08-06-2005, 02:39 PM
Thats great! thank you for pointing that out!

Vip09
08-06-2005, 04:36 PM
Didn't know there was a '98 Prelude SI.. do you mean SH?

Is the GT-S auto or 6speed?

If the Celica is auto, the Prelude is ALOT faster. If the Celica is 6 speed then the Celica is faster.

One of my good friends has a '97 Prelude with intake/header/exhaust/intake manifold and I still barely pull away from him and I'm all stock.

SigmaProjects
08-06-2005, 04:37 PM
I know that in 96 they had an Si version

RedCavalierRacer
08-06-2005, 05:12 PM
Well it said on the car '98 Prelude SI. Maybe he meant 96. Its an older model. I love the Celica body. So I think im going to go with the Celica. I just want my car to be fast. I hate it when people pull up to me and want to race and I can't because i dont want to get embarassed(as you can see I have a Chevy Cavalier Ecotec. Not very fast).

Oh well, I like the Celica and it is a 6-speed with the VVTL-i. I dont know if that makes a difference but it sounds cool. I want to put header-back exhaust and an intake and maybe if i get enough money sooner or later i'll put a turbo in it. But i dont know if the stock Celica engine can handle a turbo.

Vip09
08-06-2005, 10:17 PM
Well it said on the car '98 Prelude SI. Maybe he meant 96. Its an older model. I love the Celica body. So I think im going to go with the Celica. I just want my car to be fast. I hate it when people pull up to me and want to race and I can't because i dont want to get embarassed(as you can see I have a Chevy Cavalier Ecotec. Not very fast).

Oh well, I like the Celica and it is a 6-speed with the VVTL-i. I dont know if that makes a difference but it sounds cool. I want to put header-back exhaust and an intake and maybe if i get enough money sooner or later i'll put a turbo in it. But i dont know if the stock Celica engine can handle a turbo.

Definitely go for the GT-S if they are the same price.

Before you begin modding your GT-S, please check out newcelica.org and do some research before you end up buying parts that don't make much power.

The stock GT-S engine (2zz-ge) can handle a turbo. Hass Autoworks is pushing 327whp / 243wtq on a totally stock 2ZZ with their Stage-II turbo kit running upgraded injectors, water injection, and the GT2871 Turbo.

blakscorpion21
08-06-2005, 10:18 PM
can an auto really be that much slower? are you sure ur not egzadurating (dont know how to spell that). a stock prelude is WAY faster than an auto but a manual is faster than a prelude with like 20 hp worth of mods. that doesnt seem realistic. i know u know more about 7th gens than me but that just dont sound right to me.

Vip09
08-06-2005, 10:35 PM
can an auto really be that much slower? are you sure ur not egzadurating (dont know how to spell that). a stock prelude is WAY faster than an auto but a manual is faster than a prelude with like 20 hp worth of mods. that doesnt seem realistic. i know u know more about 7th gens than me but that just dont sound right to me.

GT-S 6speed: high 14's
GT-S Auto: Low 17's
GT 5speed: High 15's
GT Auto: High 16's

The GT-S auto is slower because it falls so far out of the powerband on each shift. Even with the 6-speed transmission, you can BARELY land in the powerband on the 1-2 shift.. so imagine how far the 4 speed auto falls out. I doubt you've driven a GT-S before, so let me tell you.. if you're not in lift you are barely moving. It takes a long time to get up to 6200rpms. But once you get there, it's pretty quick :) .

The GT Auto is faster than the GT-S auto because it utilizes the powerband better than the GT-S auto. Toyota never should have made the GT-S with an auto option.

jaybratt
08-07-2005, 03:00 AM
You have an ecotec cavalier and you are afraid to race it. I know a guy who has a manual cavalier and that thing is hecka fast for 140 hp. Is your's manual? His wasted my my 91 gt by 3 or 4 car lengths in the 1/4 and I was workin my car as hard as possible. He only had exhaust and intake and I had intake. Those things are quick for as little hp as they have. Anyways the new celicas gt-s has 180 hp, weighs little, and handles amazingly.

blakscorpion21
08-07-2005, 11:58 AM
wow that sucks. i had no idea they were that slow. i thought you raced a 5th gen with some mods and beat him without going into lift. even a 5th gen is not that slow. isnt the ecotec like the 100 hp engine, cause the z24 cavallier has 150hp.

jaybratt
08-07-2005, 04:14 PM
The ecotec has 140 hp and I believe 150 torque, the guy had more mods than me, but it still hauled somem booty.

blakscorpion21
08-07-2005, 09:40 PM
oh i thought the ecotec was like the most economy engine. i dont know much about chevys though.

jaybratt
08-08-2005, 01:21 AM
The new ecotec motor is what most chevy drag racers are runnin, so they can handle somme horse

JDM_USA
08-10-2005, 01:14 PM
GM R&D put out alot of crap for the Ecotec to make it a drag monster. I wish they spent the same amount of money to make good cars.

96 ls
08-12-2005, 02:58 AM
Well I driven both and I think the Celica GT-S would be a better buy. It has good power to weigh ratio and it handles excellent. I had to make this decision not to long ago and I decided to go with the 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS instead. The Celica will definitely beat the Prelude in straight line performance, but would mostly likely lose in the twisties if it’s a Type SH. Both cars both handle well and I couldn’t really tell a difference in handling abilities.

Chiquae07
08-21-2005, 03:59 PM
i know what your talkin about with the cavi. my cuz had on '96 and was the z24. had the 2.4L engine in it. It killed every thing he raced, hella torque off the line in 1st and 2nd, but then power dropped in 3rd. They are quick and light, not easy to find the ones with the 2.4L engine in them. he was stock and was beating integras everywhere we went. im not sure if they were gsr or not, but if u do get some minor mods on one, they are hella fast for the money and good on gas.

Chiquae07
08-21-2005, 04:01 PM
but i honestly would go with the celica, im not rippin on hondas or anything, but i kno people with really old toyotas with more than 600k and still running strong, whenthe honda goes dead. id go celica

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