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thepaivaVR-4
08-05-2005, 05:17 PM
ok here the deal i've allways hated base model 3kgt because i thought they were slow as hell and had like 145 hp or something like that (i cant remember where i got that from) but i was looking some specs and in two web sites i saw that base and sl models had 222 hp now is this right because if they have 222hp why does every one say theyre so slow ?
one more question whats the top speed on a base model?

Zeiss
08-05-2005, 05:47 PM
I dont have a 3000gt but Im pretty sure that 97+ base models got the 161hp engine, so maybe thats what you are thinking of. The earlier years had the 218hp engines. All of the stealth base models had the 164hp engine. ES and RT had 222hp.

93_R/T_TT_Stealth
08-05-2005, 05:59 PM
they say there slow cause they weight a decent amount.

Zeiss
08-05-2005, 06:21 PM
3000lbs is not that much

talskinyguy
08-05-2005, 08:43 PM
top speed....we took my friends up to about 150

sLADe781
08-05-2005, 11:35 PM
If you want the specs to GTs and Stealths, check this site out: http://www.daveblack.net/asp/3SiSpecs.asp

93_R/T_TT_Stealth
08-05-2005, 11:52 PM
most suv's weight like 3k-5,500 lbs how is that not much - it is when ur racing someone in a small import such as a honda,subaru,ect... its alot but thats one reason why they have such amazing handling when you have the awd - i never drove a fwd stealth so i have no idea but i am sure it handles pretty good.

Zeiss
08-06-2005, 10:02 AM
TTs weigh quite a bit more then NA :) But then again we dont have twin turbochargers :icon16:

talskinyguy
08-06-2005, 10:34 AM
An SUV weighing under 4k? Unless its a car(unibody) that looks like an SUV there is no way in hell.

Hotshot8792
08-06-2005, 11:18 AM
An SUV weighing under 4k? Unless its a car(unibody) that looks like an SUV there is no way in hell.

my SUV weighs 3,000 lbs, but then again its a wrangler :p

but yea, to clarity weight issues, base model weighs around 3100 lbs, the SL around 3300lbs, and the vr-4 around 3800lbs. Supras weigh 3600, 300ZXs weigh 3500, 03-04 cobras weigh 3800lbs, other mustangs weigh around 3500 lbs as well as camaros and trans ams, EVOs and WRX's weigh 3300, AWD DSMs weigh 3300, FWD DSMs weigh 3100, most hondas and integras weigh in the 2900, and some of them in the 3,000s. Our cars are not as heavy as everyone presumes them to be.

talskinyguy
08-06-2005, 11:48 AM
Wow, I had no idea they were that light. Thats just nuts.

thepaivaVR-4
08-06-2005, 12:30 PM
yeah i know 3kgt's are real heavy all of them are espcially vr-4( i mean what other sport car weighs almost two tons) anyways, sl models have 222hp but if so do base models why are sl's faster... and holy crap 150 is fast as hell for a car that people say is slow... so how fast can sl's go

Zeiss
08-06-2005, 05:39 PM
um, they should be relatively the same. Base weighs less thats the only major diff i know for the 3000. But then again, I own a stealth so i wouldnt know :biggrin:

Hotshot8792
08-06-2005, 11:16 PM
Wow, I had no idea they were that light. Thats just nuts.

SUV's are heavy, its just the wrangler thats light, if you look at them, there's not much to them other than the 4x4. The car is a lot shorter than most other cars, and half of it is made out of soft top convertable material that hardly weighs anything.

97SLGT
08-07-2005, 12:41 AM
3000lbs is not that much
I think it's more like 3,300.

Hotshot8792
08-07-2005, 10:50 AM
I think it's more like 3,300.


like i said, depends on the models (these are all aproximate weights)

base model stealths SOHC 164 hp 3,000 lbs
stealth ES 222 hp 3,100 lbs
stealth R/T 222 hp 3,250 lbs
stealth RT/TT 320 hp 3,700 lbs

pre 97 3000GT base, 222 hp 3,100 lbs
pre 97 3000GT SL, 222 hp 3,300 lbs
post 97 3000GT base, 161 hp 3,050 lbs
post 97 3000GT SL, 218 hp 3,300 lbs
3000GT VR-4 91-99 320 hp (assuming 1st gens done free boost mod) 3,800 lbs

Old and good
08-08-2005, 09:00 AM
yeah i know 3kgt's are real heavy all of them are espcially vr-4( i mean what other sport car weighs almost two tons) anyways, sl models have 222hp but if so do base models why are sl's faster... and holy crap 150 is fast as hell for a car that people say is slow... so how fast can sl's go

u guys are way off. these are not real world weight numbers.
my base stealth is regesterd 1420KG's thats 3124 pounds, the other day i took the car onto a car scale and it was with driver and full gas tank 1560kg's thats 3432 punds.

i think the real world weight is called GVWR or gross vehicle weight someting. and many sports cars are well nearing 2 tons for example a pontiac trans am GVWR is 1941kg's or 4280punds TAKE A LOOK (http://photos2.ebizautos.com/794/708931_44.jpg) , i am going to corect hotshot8792 to get it clear that 99-04 mustang gt's GVWR weight is 2036kg thats 4479punds and the new GTO is around the same weight as the mustang.

so compared to many american cars the 3000gt/stealth are not so heavy but still prety heavy compared to a 2200pound honda civic and such. but for a real size sports coupe they dont weigh to much, i still think the rx7 takes the prize concerning power/weight!

93_R/T_TT_Stealth
08-08-2005, 05:04 PM
1 thing id like to add is generaly a car with a 6cyl block shouldnt be gettin its weight compared with cars that have a complete rear end (with a pumkin)
such as all the V8 Cars that are being compared to our vehics. cause damn - how about u get some weights from cars with relevantly the same engine size like 6cyl. cars - ford cont. -grand am -honda accord - dodge stratus - or intrepid - chevy cav. mitsu eclipse ... ect..... u will find our cars are pretty dominant in weight...

93_R/T_TT_Stealth
08-08-2005, 05:06 PM
a big thing is when u have cars with more displacement - you tend to have alot more oils coolants yada yada ...

93_R/T_TT_Stealth
08-10-2005, 03:18 PM
understood

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