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2004 Boxter S vs 2005 SLK 350


Cinque
08-03-2005, 01:38 AM
I bought my Porsche Boxter S around a year ago. It was a really tuff decission. Aside from the Porsche I was also looking at the Mercedes SLK 350, BMW Z4 3.0 and BMW M3. In the end I got the Porsche and I'm happy I did. A close friend of mine recently bought a SLK 350. He swears that his car is faster than mine. I must admit that his car is quick, but with that 7G transmission its an uninvolving drive. Anyway hes challenged me down the quater mile. Now being from Australia I read all the major magazines which all use kilo watts (not horse power), and the reviews gave my car a 13.7 pass and his a 14.1 pass. I am desperatley trying to find something on the net that I can Email to him and shut him up. Can anyone suggest a link or site where theres quater mile times for the 2004 Boxter S and the 2005 SLK 350? Additional to this.... Are there any comparisons between the Boxter S and the SLK 350. I was Emailed one but I deleted it six months ago. Someone please help me!!

SLK350
08-04-2005, 12:26 AM
SLK is and all round better car it is quicker in the short run... Boxster may will on a track but slk will leave the boxster s with its pants down at any set of lights....

Boxster technology is about 10 years behind SLK...

Your friend has invested for the future... Good on him...

Your living in the past...

Porsche_Daddy
08-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Lets compare apples to apples. 05 S to 05 SLK 350. R&T and C&D have both run 5 flat 0-60 runs and 1/4's @ 13.4 and 13.5 sec respectively. The best time I have seen for a SLK 350 is 13.7 sec which would make it dead even with a pre-05 S and a bus length or so behind a 05 S. I'm don't even need to mention what would happen to the Merc in the turns. Kinda funny...10 yr old Porsche technology is still ahead of the Benz.

SLK350
08-07-2005, 09:11 PM
Lets compare apples to apples. 05 S to 05 SLK 350. R&T and C&D have both run 5 flat 0-60 runs and 1/4's @ 13.4 and 13.5 sec respectively. The best time I have seen for a SLK 350 is 13.7 sec which would make it dead even with a pre-05 S and a bus length or so behind a 05 S. I'm don't even need to mention what would happen to the Merc in the turns. Kinda funny...10 yr old Porsche technology is still ahead of the Benz.


i have another car it is an 95' integra GSI it has just the same features as a boxster bar the engine capacity and roof....

SLK is never classed as a racecar (hence the weight of the hard roof made for style and class) although would put most cars to shame off the mark including 911 wanna-be's.... this is first hand info...

on my way to work and cruising around the traps on weekends, i have never encounted a race track... but if i do, i will spend the extra $30000 odd for the great turns (who needs the latest technology such as head scarf, dvd, satnav, tv, hardtop roof, cd stacker, manual gear shifters).

boxster is the most overprice car on the market, i scoff at those drivers who have one... if you sit inside a slk 350 and take one for a spin, you will understand.... let alone driving a SLK55...

i think the 2 cars can not be compared to each other..

Boxster = Car with race track appeal
SLK 350 = Masterpiece, all round best value for more car and more

Final Comments:
If boxster was a better car, i would be driving one...

Cinque
08-08-2005, 09:10 PM
I think "Mr SLK350" needs a little reality check....

I should point out that when I was shopping for a car, I was looking at four seperate ones. The first was the BMW 3 Litre Z4. The BMW M3. The Mercedes SLK350 and of coarse the Porsche Boxter S.

The Z4 had a wonderful chassis. Infact it could be said that it was almost as good as that of the Porsche. Where it lacked was its lack of sheer power relative to the competition. Out of the bunch it was the cheapest and so I had more room to play with.

The BMW M3 was and still is a serious machine. Handling was amazing. BMW has always been known for is 50 / 50 weight distribution, and let me tell you that if the Z4 was great, the M3 was better. It had the most power out of the bunch and as a result was noticably quicker. For the same money as the Boxter S it was a true contender. I should also mention that it had more features than the SLK350 including a launch control button. The only thing that sent me in the other direction was the fact that I new the shape would date quickly. A year on and the new 3 series shape has come out. With in another year the new M3 will be out. Another thing was that unless you knew about cars, it was very difficult to tell between a 3 series or M3. The fact that heaps of people around town decided to put M badges on their cars was also a deterent.

Then there was the SLK 350. I was truly impressed. Although still feminine, it was a much better car all round. For 20 odd grand more than the Z4 and 30 odd grand less than the M3 and Boxter S it showed good value. Sat Nav, 7G, DVD etc. It had a lot of things going for it. I couldn't help but feel like all these toys were compensating for something else. I was right. Out of all four cars, this was the least enjoyable to drive. It had its own version on the launch control and in fact in a straight line it was simply point and shoot. There was no driver involvement what so ever. I have dragged one and to be honest I was very impressed with their bottom end power. Take off was excellent and i kept losing time everytime I had to change gears. But as soon I got into 3rd gear, I was going noticably faster. The other major short coming was its handling. Next to the other 3 vehicles it was a station wagon.

Finally I had a look at the Porsche Boxter S. Where it lacked was its interior. It had all the mainstream gadgets. There was not sat nav and it didn't look at cutting edge as the others, in particular the SLK 350. But what it lacked in interior it made up for in sheer driving pleasure. The power was comparable to that of the M3 and with a good enough driver might even beat one. The handling was exceptional and only really threatened by the BMW's. Porsche was the superior though. The refinement was the best out of all of them. When you sit in a Porsche, the seats are tailored to you. You feel in control the whole time. This was the most purposefull car. Porsche never tried to do something they didn't set out to. They gave me a sports car that was able to be driven everyday. The Z4 had the same sort of creditials but felt a little cheap inside. Too much plastic possibly. The M3 felt like a sedan inside which was to be expected. It had the most comfort and the most power. The SLK was almost caught in the middle. Its as if Mercedes were try to make a cruiser a sportscar. In the end, the ride in a SLK was very similar to the one in a Z4 or Boxter S.

My choice in the end was bewteen the M3, the Z4 and the Boxter S. These cars really were a threat to each other. The first to go was the Z4. It was the cheapest, and to be honest felt like the cheapest although you couldn't knock its ambition. The M3 was a serious contender though. It was the same money and you got so much more from a gadget point of view. The dynamics and handling were very close. I also liked the idea of the hard top roof. But in the end knowing how quickly these cars date was a big cross against its name. In the end I though along these lines....

A BMW like a Mercedes is a prestige car. They are and always will be bench marks for the rest of the world to follow. But they are a dime a dozen. You see BMW's and Meredes everywhere you go. The cheapest BMW is around 30 grand and the same goes for the Mercedes. The cheapest Porshce is 120 grand respectivly. In the end I bought the Porsche because it is just that.... A Porsche. They are and always will be the best at what they set out to do. The likes of BMW, Mercedes, Audi, and Lexus try to take them on. But Porsche does it better. There is no manufacturer in the world that builds a car for 150 grand that gives you the same driving pleasure. Ferrari, Lamborgini, Aston Martin all try and compete in the higher levels. And even so.... A Porsche Turbo can be driven on a track and be driven daily. Where as the others could never be considered for them same usage short of the Aston that is.

So in conclusion, I say this. The Mercedes SLK350 is a beautifully designed vehicle. Except it has no purpose. On one hand it trys to be that sports car and on the other its trying to be a luxury car. Neither of which it does with conviction. Thats why in the end it was never a serious contender. Porsche are one of the most elite vehicles in the world. Still independantly owned without interferance from any of the other larger companys. Reason being.... They do it right everytime. They're not interested in entering any entry level markets. They ranch their vehicles from $120 to $800 thousand dollars. They control their market sectors bar one. That of coarse being the entry level Boxter. In this instance I would have to say that the SLK350 or the Z4 are much better value for money.

SLK350
08-09-2005, 02:47 AM
You lost me at "I should point out...."

I get bored when i read crape....

You speak as if you drive cars like this all the time... you a immature juvenile wanna-be with a subscrption to cars magazine...

You have never sat or driven in any other car besides your second-hand boxster s before your purchase....

You live your life as you purchased your car, by reading and finding out what others like and think.... You are not a real person but a fake, an imposter....

Bottom-line your driving the cheapest made porsche daddy's money can buy....

Take someone for a drive in your car then i take them, then ask them which car they would like to have....

Answer is simple....

Mercedes gets the ladies....

Porsche's gets the pillow bitters....

Cinque
08-09-2005, 02:58 AM
Have a look at you talking about me driving a second hand car....

The only reason it was bought second hand was becuase I had to wait eight months for a new one. Please note that had I gone for the SLK350 I would have been waiting three to four months. I guess there was more of a demand for the Porsche.

Secondly you should also note that the car was practically brand new with only a few thousand km's done. Thats the only reason I bought it. We should also mention that my car is still the more expensive out of the two.

Thirdly "Where are you goin with Daddys car." You just like me got your father to buy you your car. Why would you even bring it up? You're 26 and I'm 23. I can only imagine what car "My Daddys" going to have for me when I turn 26.

And lastly.... Where did "Mercedes gets the ladies" come from. Of coarse it does!! They're driven the bloody things!!

Anything else you want say madam??

SLK350
08-09-2005, 03:24 AM
Have a look at you talking about me driving a second hand car....

The only reason it was bought second hand was becuase I had to wait eight months for a new one. Please note that had I gone for the SLK350 I would have been waiting three to four months. I guess there was more of a demand for the Porsche.

Secondly you should also note that the car was practically brand new with only a few thousand km's done. Thats the only reason I bought it. We should also mention that my car is still the more expensive out of the two.

Thirdly "Where are you goin with Daddys car." You just like me got your father to buy you your car. Why would you even bring it up? You're 26 and I'm 23. I can only imagine what car "My Daddys" going to have for me when I turn 26.

And lastly.... Where did "Mercedes gets the ladies" come from. Of coarse it does!! They're driven the bloody things!!

Anything else you want say madam??


You have lost the plot, i think you need a satnat...

Cars don't measure a man success... its the number of roots he has had...

Remember i don't envy you in our relationship!!!!!!!

Cinque
08-09-2005, 03:36 AM
Now Shivs....

Do you really want to touch on the topic of roots. My man.... I pull the women in my Porsche by the truck loads.

You on the other hand pull the little boys by the semi - trailor loads. How many times do I need to tell you.... Its that Dam Fag Mobile you call a Mercedes!!

By the way. I don't have sat nav in my car becuase generally I'm going to fast to pay attention. I guess it must be a perk having a car that doesn't move....?

Porsche_Daddy
08-12-2005, 12:56 AM
Bottom line:
SLK's are great for sipping latte's and talking on the cell while going to work. Plus who could forget the headscarf on those chilly nights. Nice vehicle for comfort and relaxation :)

The Boxster S is the real drivers car of two and yes I do take my car on the track and auto-x it regularly as well. I have to say I haven't seen many a SLK at the track and the reasons are obvious. I don't have headscarf or nav and trust me I don't want it. Hell, I don't even have cruise, traction control or full power seats. Throughout history Porsches have been about perfomance not luxary. I'm glad my money went into performance hardware and not electronic doo dads that make me more comfortable. Neither car is bad they just both fill an intended purpose as I pointed out earlier. No need flame each others car. To each his own.

Jaguar D-Type
08-12-2005, 09:04 PM
I'm don't even need to mention what would happen to the Merc in the turns.

While this thread is comparing the new SLK350 to the 2004 Boxster S, Sports Car International (July 2005) enjoyed an SLK55 AMG more than a new 2005 Boxster S.

The Boxster S didn't quite feel right and a visit to the dealer confirmed it. The "alignment was out of whack and the brake system needed attention. With that sorted, I revisited the test route and found the immediacy, precision and magic were back. However, the servicing didn't improve the car's ability to soak up mid-corner bumps. The combination of standard suspension and 19-inch wheels remains a drawback in this regard; stick with the 18s, or order PASM with the 19s."

- page 38

Cinque
08-16-2005, 08:31 PM
While this thread is comparing the new SLK350 to the 2004 Boxster S, Sports Car International (July 2005) enjoyed an SLK55 AMG more than a new 2005 Boxster S.

The Boxster S didn't quite feel right and a visit to the dealer confirmed it. The "alignment was out of whack and the brake system needed attention. With that sorted, I revisited the test route and found the immediacy, precision and magic were back. However, the servicing didn't improve the car's ability to soak up mid-corner bumps. The combination of standard suspension and 19-inch wheels remains a drawback in this regard; stick with the 18s, or order PASM with the 19s."

- page 38

If you look at the intial thread that I posted, I was asking for a comparison between the SLK350 and the Boxter S. All I've ever been able to find is comparisons bewteen the SLK55 and the Boxter S.

In defence of the Porsche.... Its in a different catergory. In Australian dollars the Porsche costs aroud 140 - 145 on the road, where as the SLK55 costs something like 175 on the road.

It has also been said that the 2005 Boxter S is no where near as involving as the 2004 model. But for track performance you should look at the new Cayman coming out. Its priced the same as the SLK55 and will outperform any car on the track. The latest issue of Motor magazine confirms this with the exact same lap times at Bari - Italy as the Enzo Ferrari.

I can't really shead too much light on the issue with the wheels. But I can tell you that the next Porsche I get will have PASM garenteed!!

Cinque
08-16-2005, 08:33 PM
Bottom line:
SLK's are great for sipping latte's and talking on the cell while going to work. Plus who could forget the headscarf on those chilly nights. Nice vehicle for comfort and relaxation :)

The Boxster S is the real drivers car of two and yes I do take my car on the track and auto-x it regularly as well. I have to say I haven't seen many a SLK at the track and the reasons are obvious. I don't have headscarf or nav and trust me I don't want it. Hell, I don't even have cruise, traction control or full power seats. Throughout history Porsches have been about perfomance not luxary. I'm glad my money went into performance hardware and not electronic doo dads that make me more comfortable. Neither car is bad they just both fill an intended purpose as I pointed out earlier. No need flame each others car. To each his own.

By coincidence SLK350 and I were out last night. I let him drive my car on the Highway. If only you could have seen the smile on his face....

Enough said.

Jaguar D-Type
08-16-2005, 09:40 PM
The cheapest Porshce is 120 grand respectivly.

Actually, the cheapest Porsche costs around $42,200.

Cinque
08-16-2005, 09:45 PM
Actually, the cheapest Porsche costs around $42,200.

We're talking Australian Dollars here. A plain Porshce Boxter costs around $120,000 including on road costs. List price is $108,000. Do you any stance on Porsche versus Mercedes?

Jaguar D-Type
08-17-2005, 03:51 PM
We're talking Australian Dollars here. A plain Porshce Boxter costs around $120,000 including on road costs. List price is $108,000. Do you any stance on Porsche versus Mercedes?

I see.

Do I have a stance on Porsche versus Mercedes-Benz?

I didn't like the previous SLK, but the new one seems like a big improvement. I like the new Boxster more than the new SLK though.

Cinque
08-17-2005, 07:26 PM
I see.

Do I have a stance on Porsche versus Mercedes-Benz?

I didn't like the previous SLK, but the new one seems like a big improvement. I like the new Boxster more than the new SLK though.

I recognise now that you're an individual with some integrity. Having driven the new SLK 350 I can tell you first hand that it is no slouch. In fact in a straight line it with go with a Boxter S. Its the 7G Gearbox that gives it the zip though. When I was having a boogie with one in my car (Porsche Boxter S), everytime I changed gear I was losing ground.

Inside the car its a real masterpiece. For the money - you're getting reall value with the Sat Nav and just the ergonomics of the interior in general. But as Porsche Daddy put it the other day.... It doesn't compare to any Porsche on a race track excluding the Cayennes of coarse.

Anyway it was great to hear someone elses feed back. If you want to know more about the SLK range or in particular the 350, just ask "SLK350". He's a friend of mine and the whole reason we're even in the forum is becuase we're forever argueing about who drives the better car.

HB.
09-21-2005, 12:50 AM
And lastly.... Where did "Mercedes gets the ladies" come from. Of coarse it does!! They're driven the bloody things!!




O so so true, There is this some what new out door high dollar mall here in town. It is truly a woman's mall with stores such as saks, j.jill, ann taylor etc etc, and all you ever see is women pulling up with their mercs. I should take a pic of the parking lot one day :rofl: :rofl:

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