TVR Cerbera Vs. Nissan Skyline...

All honesty people do you think a Skyline could keep up with a V8 lighter then air Cerbera lol. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it would be very unlikely. I am a Skyline fan don't get me wrong. But after the the jump, which the Skyline would get a great one at that. It would stop acceling. and the Cerbera would just eat it up. Then again I think a RX-7 would do the same. Once the RX-7 winds up it out just explode pass the Skyline. I'm not trying to make any ememies on here just want your honest thoughts about this issue.

http://www.chriscarsite.com/stats/tvr/cerbera/big1.jpg

http://smilingbro.homestead.com/files/1999_Nissan_Skyline.jpg

http://www.fast-autos.net/rx74.jpg

YOU BE THE JUDGE!

Well, that is the difference in horsepower and torgue. If you give GT-R more boost, Cerbera will be the one to be eaten up ;)

Welcome to AF, btw, I hope you enjoy your stay here, and let me know if you have any questions or problems ;)

Not trying to make enemies?:huh:

If Igor sees this, he'll pop a gasket! I think that RX-7 statement is definitely unfounded. A skyline will blow it away.

Oh! Post some facts with your statements too. Guys in here will eat you alive if you don't back up what you say. Just a little friendly advice.

Well my dad is bigger than your dad:finger:


There will always be someone out there that can smoke you. Give some VALID 1/4 times, and we will talk. Other than that, talk is cheap.

What makes the rx7 so bad is its ability to spin, but that engine has no toque to help it get out of its own way. I do like them, but only if it was capable of producing some torque.

Oh, and like you will ever own Cerbera.:rolleyes:

Thanks for the advice


http://www.chriscarsite.com/stats/tvr/cerbera/big1.jpg
TVR Cerbera:

General Information

Manufacturer TVR
Model Year 1994
Price (USD) $69,000

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 2475 lbs.
Wheel Base 101 in.
Track Front 57 in.
Track Rear 58 in.
Length 169 in.
Width 74 in.
Height 48 in.

Engine Information

Type V8
Displacement 4185 cc.
Horsepower 420 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque 320 ft-lb. @ 4500 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 3.9 seconds
Top Speed 162 mph

http://www.smilingbro2k.homestead.com/files/sky1.jpg

Nissan Skyline:

General Information

Manufacturer Nissan
Model Year 1996
Price (USD) $54,600

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 1530 lbs.
Wheel Base 2720 mm.
Track Front 1486 mm.
Track Rear 1490 mm.
Length 4675 mm.
Width 1780 mm.
Height 1360 mm.

Engine Information

Type I-6
Displacement 2568 cc.
Horsepower 206 kW @ 6800 rpm
Torque 271 Nm @ 4400 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/4WD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 5.5 seconds
Top Speed 180 Km/h

http://www.chriscarsite.com/stats/mazda/rx-7/big1.jpg

Mazda RX-7:

General Information

Manufacturer Mazda
Model Year 1993
Price (USD) $32,000

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 2695 lbs.
Wheel Base 96 in.
Track Front 57 in.
Track Rear 57 in.
Length 169 in.
Width 69 in.
Height 48 in.

Engine Information

Type Wankel Rotary
Displacement 1307 cc.
Horsepower 255 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque 217 ft-lb. @ 5000 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 4.9 seconds
Top Speed 156 mph


Let's throw a Supra in there just cuz.

http://www.chriscarsite.com/stats/toyota/supra/big2.jpg

Toyota Supra:

General Information

Manufacturer Toyota
Model Year 1998
Price (USD) $40,700

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 3505 lbs.
Wheel Base 100 in.
Track Front 59.8 in.
Track Rear 60 in.
Length 177.8 in.
Width 71 in.
Height 50.2 in.

Engine Information

Type I-6
Displacement 2997 cc.
Horsepower 320 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque 315 ft-lb. @ 4000 rpm
Transmission 6-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 4.8 seconds
Top Speed 157 mph

Alter the stats. anyway you see fit let's just be fair about it. And thanks for the greeting folks, laterz.

In one post on here someone said the New Skylines will be a V8 with twin turbo. Okay, why on God's green Earth would someone have to go that darn fast! :bloated: Say good bye to the Vette's looks like the only thing messing with that is going to have to be the new Camaro's

http://www.chriscarsite.com/stats/chevrolet/zl1/big1.jpg

General Information

Manufacturer Chevrolet
Model Year 2000
Price (USD) N/A

Vehicle Dimensions

Curb Weight 3523 lbs.
Wheel Base 101.1 in.
Track Front N/A
Track Rear N/A
Length 193.5 in.
Width 75.5 in.
Height 51.2 in.

Engine Information

Type V8
Displacement 9373 cc.
Horsepower 770 bhp @ 6900 rpm
Torque 683 ft-lb. @ 5200 rpm
Transmission 5-spd Manual
Layout Front Engine/RWD

Performance Specs

0-60 Time 3.0 seconds
Top Speed 230 mph

Just for thought! Hey I'm at work bored with T1 connections you think of something better to do :smoker:

Camaro's dad has to be the biggest with almost 10,000cc's.


Nice job Omega on the specs and pics.:)

The Skyline you posted is a R34, but you have the specs of a R33, also that should 1530Kg not lbs,mmmmmmmk. Thanks.:D

The Cerbera will blow the GT-R and RX-7 and Supra Turbo away. It's lighter and has more power and torque. But they all handle very well. Still, once again the Cerbera is faster though. To tell you the truth though I haven't driven an RX-7 as crazy as I drove the TVR, GT-R and Supra so it's more of a wild card for me. :D

Living, only 10 minutes away from Blackpool where they make that TVR junk, I have raced a Cerbera. (in my R33)

Between 60 and approx 150mph he did pull away from me, but only by what looked to be about 50 metres.

In my defence, It was before I realised that I needed to be using 97 Octane fuel, and my car was running fairly standard at 320-330bhp.

I have had a play with one on the country roads too. They cannot stick with me. The suspension setup and ability to place the power onto the road cannot compete with the competance of a Skyline.

So there!

Oh yeah! And the build quality! The less said the better!

Madman, do you have to say anything to the specs posted??

Hint - "0-60 - 5.5 seconds" :huh:

Stock R34 can do 4.7.... R33 should be able to pull of high 4's as well.

Woooo....TVR...my first love! I'd always liked the TVR and when they introduced the Griffith I just couldn't sleep at night...until I bought my R33 though;) Now, there's no Cebera in M'sia but a lot of Chimera 4.5 & 4.2. I'd driven a 4.5 Chimera. Handles like shite....:rolleyes: especially in the rain. Build quality is sub standard....feels like a plastic car!
One fine day, I'd raced with a 4.5 Chimera. Not exactly a Cebera but about the same displacement. Whupped his arse in 2nd and left him for dead in 3rd! Waited for him about half a km later and the bugger did not even dare to come near anymore! Bring on the Cebera and I'm quite sure it would leave me in 1st and 2nd. But in 3rd or 4th, he...he...anything could happen! On te track though, I think the Cebera does not stand a chance! In last year's 12 hour endurance, the 4.5 Chimera fully worked lost to a fully worked EVO 3 (yes...EVO THREE) and a 170 hp Elise.
On the RX 7, that's a different proposition. My friend's brother has a 400 hp RX 7 and driving it I can tell you it is FAAAAST! His HKS single turbo spools up faster than you can say "boost" and the torque makes you stick to the seat with your tounge going in your throat. And this happens throughout the rev range up to 7000rpm. After driving that car, the owner asked whether I wnated to pit my 33 against his RX. I sheepishly said "no...thank you..." ( a mark of a wise man....:D )
The Supra? I'd take it on anytime. So much wheel spin and it tracks like gel on tarmac:D On the track one day, my car flew pass a Supra and it tried to chase me after the straight. After several slow and fast corners, he gave up!:flipa: :finger:
Would really love to take on a Cebera. No, not that RX 7 though!:(

TVR for the torque.

Yeah, and I think those Camaro stats are...umm...wrong. It's not going to be faster to 60 than the McLaren F1, sorry.

Hmmm Top speed on a Camaro 230MPH!!!!!!:eek2: Where in the WORLD did you get these stats from?!


Stock the RX-7 can not compete against the Skyline when it comes down to straight lines or curves, same goes for the Supra, but tweaked?! Hell a heavily modified Ford "Bogus" could be just about any stock car so not really worth talking about.:alien2:

It's Chevy's ZL1 CONCEPT! Actually, I remember it having a faster 0-60 time, but either way...just a concept.

Yes a Concept car, guess in that case I can do 0-60 in 2 sec at a top speed of 275 MPH, but that's just a concept I'm working on for my new Jet propelled Razor :finger:

I swear, coming into a SKYLINE forum and claim to be a SKYLINE lover and then blowing smoke is just too much.

Omega, I think I shall proclaim thee "Human Torch":flamer:

Well, they've done MUCH faster than 3.0. They had a camaro that was basically just their "fun", I guess...0-60 in 2.2! But, it was shown up by the 1.9 mustang that was also in the same mag.

R33, I've also driven the 4.5 Chimera, and it handles great. But I must admit that I had to counterstear A LOT. Teh Cerbera is different though. But all TVRs take skill and experence to drive. They are more "manly" than the GT-R. The GT-R has all kinds of gizmos. It's no surprise that you can take the corners in it faster than the 4.5 :rolleyes: BTW, did you drive it on the road or track?

Racer, I drove it for about 30km on one of those bumpy and winding road. The front felt too long and heavy and understeered quite a bit. I took the highway on the way back and it was pouring. Quite a handful in the rain.
I agree that it is more "manly"...whatever it may mean! All about raw power. I like the power delivery..instant, responsive and always eager. A bit like the Testarrosa. I have never driven it on the track but I think the handling would be awful on the track. But I could imagine going into corners slowly. Coming out of it is a different story altogether I suppose.
Having said so, the Griffith and Chimera are well in my wanted list. Can't resist that V8 sound and power delivery. The road tax though, would kill me every year!:mad:

Originally posted by R33
Having said so, the Griffith and Chimera are well in my wanted list. Can't resist that V8 sound and power delivery. The road tax though, would kill me every year!:mad:

I hear ya! lol But atleast you don't have to deal with importing and shit there. Man, I wish I still lived in England sometimes. TVRS, STi WRXs, EVOs, good god man... Oh well, Vettes and Vipers will have to do. :D

Vettes and Vipers just won't do!:D Guess when it comes to TVRs and Lotus, I am lucky. They are assembled in M'sia (for Far East market). But road tax for a 4.5 litre job is almost USD 2 k per year! Add insurance and general maintainance to that....I'd rather spend on my GTR all those money:devil:

Damn you get Lotus too?!! Lucky bastard... :smoker2:

Skyline GT-R is a Legend
TVR Cerbera is also well known... for its poor built:D

Originally posted by carman
Skyline GT-R is a Legend
TVR Cerbera is also well known... for its poor built:D


BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! :lol2:

Fix It Again Tony

Need one for TVR:finger:

Its true that most if not all TVR's for built quality are pretty shite for the money, nice looking cars though.

Same goes for its v8 as its not really the best in the world, and this comes from a dealer and tuner I know, were better when they were based on the rover v8 and the rover v8 is based on the buick v8.

Besides the looks I get in this country in the skyline are worth just as much as driving a ferrai, as the skyline I find to be quite rare apart from japan.

Also with regards to 0=60 the Europe based Ford RS200 using the cosworth turbo power plant mid mounted did a 0=60 in 2.3 secs and I believe to still be a record?

Good luck holding on to the V8 Powered go cart anyway...
As for build quality yeah I say it's bad, looks all nice inside with their fancy custom bits, but everywhere alse :bloated:

A friend here had a TVR, not sure the model was a while ago now, it honked though.
Friend worked on one, had to have a dry sump as it was having problems..

As for price..

this is cool cerbera and r34 on the same page, my dreamcar is the r34 my brothers dream car is a cerbera and even he agrees that the skyline would beated in the longrun or in the track

sry to burst your bubble fellas but there happens to be a skyline with 1600Hp {GODZILLA} and it is 1 meen sob it would eat that cilly cerbera for breakfast lunch and dinner i would post the specs but the guy who owns it dosnt show them sry but if u have kazza just search for teh skyline video with 1600hp it is the most beautiful sounding engine i have ever herd{tear*} |i hate when peopel say something is better than the skyline but its sometimes true :banghead: but i still love it always have evr since they first came out......God i love that power house

o and ill be searching for those specs

This thread has been dead for over 2 years. I see you are a newbie and I'm in a charitable mood so I'll cut you some slack.

In the future threads that are over 3 months old please leave dead.

Welcome to AF btw.