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Stealth clutch trans problem


Personunknown
07-31-2005, 05:15 PM
I recently aquited a 1992 dodge stealth 5 speed FWD SOHC base model. The engine runs smooth, but when the clutch was released, nothing happened. So after discovering there was no friction material left on the clutch, I replaced it along with the preasure plate, bearing and flywheel due to several large cracks in it. Once reasembled, I discovered the trans was burnt up, 1st gear specificly. After locating another trans and installing that, the same thing happened, released the clutch, NOTHING.
So I'm at my whits end, I don't know if I missed a step, if I'm going to have to bleed the clutch or somthing. But I need help, anything. So if anyone has any experience with somthing like this, I'd appreciate anything you could offer.

Twizted_3KGT
07-31-2005, 06:47 PM
Well check your clutch fluid and make sure it's full. If you're pedal comes back to you after you push it down then you shouldn't need to bleed anything. If it has nothing to do with that then I would say maybe you need to replace the clutch fork, or something is wrong with the release bearing. If nothing is wrong with those two parts then i'd have to point to installation error on the clutch, because I can't think of any other situation that nothing at all would happen...it doesn't even stall when you let out the clutch in gear?

talskinyguy
07-31-2005, 09:30 PM
Can you get it into gear?

Stealthee
07-31-2005, 09:56 PM
When you replace the clutch you most certainly need to bleed to clutch really well as well as adjust the clutch pedal. I went thru the same thing with mine.

Personunknown
08-01-2005, 01:09 AM
when I reinstalled the original trans, I pumped the clutch, started it up, put it into second (first was burnt) drive it back and forth in the garage. Now with this one, when I pumped the clutch the first time, it DIDN'T come back. I had to reach down with my hard and pull it back, then re pump several times, now that I think about it apon first installation that didn't happen and it doesn't feel as firm, could be my imagination. Currently I am able to get it into gear. and the only thing that happens is a light rubbing noise from the engine and the speedomiter jumps to about 4 mph, and will rise when the engine is reved up. So something is happening. I'll play with the ajustment of the pedal, and see about bleeding the clutch before I re-remove the trans to look at the fork and bearing. those shood be good, bearing is new and fork was well cleaned and lightly greased on the piviot points. If any of you have anymore suggestions I'm all ears.

Stealthee
08-01-2005, 05:45 PM
Trust me dude. I bet there isnt even anything wrong with your other transmission. The clutch needs bled very very well to make sure all the air is out. If not you wont be able to get it into gear. Also if the pedal isnt adjusted right with the new clutch it will want to grab at a very low point making it almost impossible to drive. Dont put yourself thru pulling the tranny again.

Twizted_3KGT
08-01-2005, 09:35 PM
Could there be a situation where the clutch pedal is misadjusted to the point that the clutch doesn't grab hard enough?

Personunknown
08-02-2005, 11:09 AM
the first transmission was in fact bad, there was no teeth left on first gear and all other gears were also missing multiple teeth and syncros showed really bad wear. So with all everyones help, I went back and was tinkering with a few things and noticed that the clutch fork doesn't rebound all the way, so the clutch isn't able to grab enough. So, I am going to bleed the clutch, and ajust the pedal to see if that will assist in making the fork rebound correctly. Does anyone know if that will help, or will that be a waste of my time? Besides doing that, the only other possibility that I can think of is that the throwout bearing isn't slideing smoothly on the axle drive shaft thing in there.

Twizted_3KGT
08-03-2005, 01:51 PM
axle drive shaft thing = input shaft :)

So do you mean the clutch fork can't rebound all the way or it can but just doesn't have the spring power to?

TOB is a slight possibility, but it would take some driving time before it would actually seize to the point that you couldn't get the gear to grab I would imagine. Can't hurt to put a dab of grease on it if you already have it all apart!

Personunknown
08-03-2005, 06:19 PM
Imput shaft, thats the name I was looking for!!! thanks.
The clutch fork has the ability to rebound all the way, but it simply doesn't. you can push it by hand to the correct position but it just creeps back the that half ingaged half uningaged point.
When I had it all apart I put a light amount of grease on the "imput shaft, the contact points of the clutch fork to the bearing and the piviot point of the fork. When I maunally depress the clutch and move the fork by hand, it feels fine, its really difficult to put against the pressure plate springs by hand so, I don't think thats the problem. Has to be something between the actual clutch pedal and the slave cylinder?

Stealthee
08-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Bleed, bleed, bleed then adjust the pedal. Thats all. You are too paranoid. But dont worry I had the same paranoia.

Personunknown
08-04-2005, 12:07 AM
I know, I know. I've been working on this car for months now and had little to no trouble with getting things taken care of, so then to run into this and not being able to figure it out, I want to be sure about how to fix it, cause if not I'm only left with taking it to someone to have it fixed. I've never had to do that, so I'd never forgive myself. OK, no more Paranoia. Off to bleed the clutch.

Twizted_3KGT
08-04-2005, 11:23 AM
Yep, i'm with Stealthee on this one, i'm gonna have to do the same to my car soon.

Personunknown
08-13-2005, 12:57 AM
Ok, so I bled and bled and bled. Nothing. still no go power. The only thing I can think of is that there is a possibility that there is a problem with the transmission agian, whether its blown or if there is just a compatibility issue with this one, it is out of a 3000GT not a stealth.
Still looking for help if anyone is still willing.

Stealthee
08-13-2005, 02:00 AM
No compatability issues as the 3000gt and Stealth are exactly the same. Did you adjust the pedal? If its not adjusted correctly then its not to work right.

Personunknown
08-13-2005, 05:39 PM
I've ajusted the pedal to both extremes and the middle, when I put the trans back in the first time I ajusted the clutch to what the factory book said it should be at, and it worked, it was just that 1st gear in that trans was blown. I'm beginning to think that I may have over looked somthing when reinstalling the trans.

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