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Phatwhippin_CRX
04-29-2002, 01:31 AM
It's the hybrid board...... what have you guys got?

spy54
04-29-2002, 02:26 AM
m well i got a 89 si with a fully built d16a6 from the honda factory:p stock baby oh yeah!

marked001
04-29-2002, 08:58 AM
I aint got shit :( haha.

mellowboy
04-29-2002, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by Phatwhippin_CRX
It's the hybrid board...... what have you guys got?

Well u know what i got and the shitty situation that i'm in:( ;)

Ben L
04-29-2002, 10:02 AM
got a stock 95 del sol VTEC

got a B16 in my 89 Si hatch

yee-ha!

civic1991
04-29-2002, 10:04 AM
I got a D16Y8 in a 91 Si working on building it up
N/A all the way.

mellowboy
04-29-2002, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by civic1991
I got a D16Y8 in a 91 Si working on building it up
N/A all the way.

YES!! Good choice ...NO BOOST:finger4: NO seriously they should start an all motor section...cause i sure as hell need it:D

Fishcat37
04-29-2002, 10:15 AM
check my sig :smoka:

ricodemus
04-29-2002, 10:16 AM
I've got a 90 si h/b with a b16 and no vtec :( . We think it's the ecu, so I'm on the hunt. Damn this was an expensive venture....of course I also got new wheels, front big brake kit, rear disc changeover, and some other crap I havent installed. Still havent posted pics yet...

sastanley
04-29-2002, 11:57 AM
Check my sig for current setup. I am re-building a ZC to stock form for this car as my daily driver/family car/boat towing machine ;), and I hope to pick up a hatch or CRX some time down the road as a project car.
I just got some parts in finally for the bottom end from Majestic Honda, so I can start working on the motor again. :cool:

CWBETB
04-29-2002, 01:25 PM
Turbo ZC :flash:

civic1991
04-29-2002, 02:11 PM
Good choice ...NO BOOST

Boost Makes things go boom. Just like nitros.
However I am not opposed to supercharging.

dropshop
04-29-2002, 02:22 PM
supercharging (jackson) SUCKS
boost wont = boom if its tuned right
i have 240000 miles on my D16 and i run 9.4 psi all day every day

mellowboy
04-29-2002, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by civic1991


Boost Makes things go boom. Just like nitros.
However I am not opposed to supercharging.

Yes true that. I don't mind supercharging but i'd still go ALL MOTOR! Hey do you think that this forum should start an "all motor" section? I know i'm down with it!

marked001
04-29-2002, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy
Hey do you think that this forum should start an "all motor" section? I know i'm down with it!


I think that like 90% of the people that are going to be all motor are gonna be hybrids...so here's the hybrid forum :)

ricodemus
04-29-2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by dropshop
supercharging (jackson) SUCKS
boost wont = boom if its tuned right
i have 240000 miles on my D16 and i run 9.4 psi all day every day

I agree, if you do it right, you shouldnt have any problem running 7psi or so (which is all I wanna do). I wanna get a t3 or t3/t4, but I'm still doing research on all I'll need to make sure this thing is ok.

mellowboy
04-29-2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by marked001



I think that like 90% of the people that are going to be all motor are gonna be hybrids...so here's the hybrid forum :)

I guess? Well forced induction is hybrid also? All i know about the hybrid forum is helpin ppl with there swap...not to build motor up? I mean i'm not bein a dick or anything...am i?:D

ricodemus
04-29-2002, 02:32 PM
maybe just a general engine tech can be incorporated into the general section?

91zc
04-29-2002, 03:19 PM
1991 civic 4dr with a b16a. I love it.:D I might boost it or go do a mild all motor build. I will have to see what my income looks like when next fall/winter comes along.;)

88ReX
04-29-2002, 03:25 PM
what engine is the SOHC vtec eh?!? LS?

91zc
04-29-2002, 03:36 PM
The sohc Vtec motor they are talking about is either the d16z6 from the 1992-1995 civic Si/Ex or the d16y8 from the 96-up civic ex.:)

Phatwhippin_CRX
04-30-2002, 01:17 AM
89 CRX Si

91 JDM B16a, J1 tranny
AEM CAI
DC Exhaust
DC 4-1 Header
ACT 6 puck race clutch (extreme pp)

Thats just the "go" stuff.....

Soon...... port & polished head, i.m, and TB. 205 hp here I come! :)

Bleebdat
04-30-2002, 02:27 AM
Guys heres a question. Why would you hate turbo? When I first started looking into engine swaps and build ups I thought yeah All motor all the way. But then I started meeting people with turbos and learned more about them. Now if I were to do a swap or build up I would always plan to turbo as well. As to the danger, putting a turbo can cause problems, but so can putting high comp pistons or aggressive cams.

mellowboy
04-30-2002, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Bleebdat
Guys heres a question. Why would you hate turbo? When I first started looking into engine swaps and build ups I thought yeah All motor all the way. But then I started meeting people with turbos and learned more about them. Now if I were to do a swap or build up I would always plan to turbo as well. As to the danger, putting a turbo can cause problems, but so can putting high comp pistons or aggressive cams.

Not unless u know what you're set up is and know what you're doing. All motor i think is more reliabel and thats what i'm after.

threethirteen
04-30-2002, 11:41 PM
i run a b16a in a 94 integra...i know it's not a crx..but the teg forum doesn have anything about hybirds..and ive done a few, so i guess im here to answer questions.

and i also have a b18b ls/vtec sitting in my garage. i guess thats sort of like a hybrid. the garage didnt have an engine before and now its got one.

i like the all motor setups too...i love the sound and the feel of it when turbo kicks in, but theres nothing like knowing you can take a camaro without it. but as for now i am running 7psi daily..

Phatwhippin_CRX
05-01-2002, 12:42 AM
Fuck I wish I had the $$ to be boosted....... turbo fucking OWNS....

mellowboy
05-01-2002, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Phatwhippin_CRX
Fuck I wish I had the $$ to be boosted....... turbo fucking OWNS....

yeh turbo owns unreliablity:rolleyes: :flipa:

Bleebdat
05-01-2002, 02:14 AM
yeh turbo owns unreliablity
That is an insanely naive statement, billion dollar car companies produce plenty of cars using turbos and superchargers, Its fine to have your own preconceived notions about turbos and superchargers. But they get you where NA cant and a little more risk comes with it. If you have an engine and you want to get more horsepower out of it, there are options you can use to make more HP forced induction is just one of the options. Can you give me a reason why turbo is unreliable?

threethirteen
05-01-2002, 10:08 AM
forced induction can be completely reliable if tuned right and you take care of it. if your turbo is running right, and you arent feeding like +15psi all the time then your turbo is totally reliable. like Bleebdat said..car companies spend tons of money making their engines invincible, whether they are going to be FI or not. even stock motors that come FI dont use more than 7-10psi. the only reason turbo can be unrelieable is when people pump too much juice into an engine that cant take it...like a stock civic. the difference between NA engines and Fi engines is that the Fi are much stronger stock...so in order to make the NA FI you have to make it at least compareable in strength.

dont think you are going to run 10psi on a civic for ten years without replacing the pistons or sleeves...thats why turbo cars cost more than NA. the saab 900turbo is like 8grand more than the saab 900 non turbo.

mellowboy
05-01-2002, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Bleebdat

That is an insanely naive statement, billion dollar car companies produce plenty of cars using turbos and superchargers, Its fine to have your own preconceived notions about turbos and superchargers. But they get you where NA cant and a little more risk comes with it. If you have an engine and you want to get more horsepower out of it, there are options you can use to make more HP forced induction is just one of the options. Can you give me a reason why turbo is unreliable?

It is unreliable cause theres too much maintainence. Like i said before. It depends on your set up for all motor. I know it aint gonna get me anywhere into the 9 second or 10 but my goal is to make it a 12 second car. I know whats my set up and i know that i don't have to spend as much turbos. Don't get me wrong i like turbos but its just not the way i want to go. Theres hardly anybody goin all motor around my area. Everyone is so hooked up on turbo. To tell you the truth..lots of ppl around here wants turbo for looks and for the blow job sounds.;) Turbo is way expensive for me..i can't afford it. One thing i can say that i don't have to spend as much on all motor than turbo. It is also more reliable. So billion dollar car companies produce plenty of cars using turbos and superchargers? Well yes they do but i don't think that has anything to do with hondas thats been turbocharged. Those cars with turbo comes stock and what comes stock is more reliable than having to put a turbo on a non turbo car. You have to do alot of shit to a honda just to have turbo and especially if u want to be in the 13 or faster range. My friend with a drag gen 3 turbo kit on his gsr ran a lousy 14.6 with his wack skills of driving. He is capable of hittin high 13's to low 14's with just that set up. I think he ran with 10 psi. I'm not gonna spend close to 4g's just to make my car run low 14's or high 13's. For me ..all i want is the whole upgrade valvetrain set by skunk2 and strong rods and pistons. Thats about it so far. Well yes i'm gonna want to upgrade my fuel to. I seriously think its not gonna cost much as turbo. I'm sorry that u feel offended in anyway?:D

Bleebdat
05-01-2002, 11:17 AM
Mellow Im not offended man, and I understand your position. Mine is that to get more hp costs more money and maintenance. Even to get a 12 sec allmotor would take lots of maintenance compared to a stock car. But lets just bury this thread =].

mellowboy
05-01-2002, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Bleebdat
Mellow Im not offended man, and I understand your position. Mine is that to get more hp costs more money and maintenance. Even to get a 12 sec allmotor would take lots of maintenance compared to a stock car. But lets just bury this thread =].

Yeh your rite. It does take more maintance but hey it is cheaper than turbo. You gotta atleast agree on that:D So yeh lets kill it:)

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