IPMS Nats - results?
p9o1r1sche
07-24-2005, 09:16 PM
Anyone stay until the end of contest to find out results in the Auto category?
mike@af
07-24-2005, 10:08 PM
Wayne won first in Tuner with his 350Z. Eric (Mach1_2003)won third in factory stock with his 69 Camaro Conversion RS/SS, third in closed wheel with his GT40, and third in street machines with his 66 Nova. Matt (CADguy) one first in customs with his 360 Stradale Spider and third in tuners with his Carbon Fiber Lexus.
Congrats to all of them. Best of show was a KC-130.
Congrats to all of them. Best of show was a KC-130.
Stickz
07-25-2005, 12:12 AM
Anybody take pics????
mike@af
07-25-2005, 08:08 AM
We all did. I just havent had time to post mine.
hrmodeler
07-25-2005, 09:07 AM
Here are photos on this link:
http://www.tesoritos.com/ipms2005/
http://www.tesoritos.com/ipms2005/
CADguy
07-25-2005, 03:40 PM
Anybody take pics????
I did not take one single picture the entire 4 days I was there. There was so much going on and soo much to see, stopping to take pics would've taken away time from somthing else fun. Like buying model kits and accessories.
There were so many cool things to look at and purchase, and all of the contest entrys were top notch.
I am really happy that I was fortunate enough to come home with a couple of awards. I was surprised that a Ferrari 360 took home 1st place honors in the custom class, but extremely happy.
I'm curious to see a list of all the winners. Many of the cars and other models were removed off of the table before I had a chance to see what entrys placed.
Thanks for the awesome photo album Zeljko!
I did not take one single picture the entire 4 days I was there. There was so much going on and soo much to see, stopping to take pics would've taken away time from somthing else fun. Like buying model kits and accessories.
There were so many cool things to look at and purchase, and all of the contest entrys were top notch.
I am really happy that I was fortunate enough to come home with a couple of awards. I was surprised that a Ferrari 360 took home 1st place honors in the custom class, but extremely happy.
I'm curious to see a list of all the winners. Many of the cars and other models were removed off of the table before I had a chance to see what entrys placed.
Thanks for the awesome photo album Zeljko!
hrmodeler
07-25-2005, 03:44 PM
Oh, it's not mine. Mike Hanson from Model Car List made photos, I just put link here.
US is still years away from my country :-)
US is still years away from my country :-)
Eric Cole
07-25-2005, 04:17 PM
Shopping there was awesome. Buying kits from HLJ at their prices without having to order them or pay shipping was sweet.......
mike@af
07-25-2005, 04:47 PM
Oh...I bought some more tools, some CF, and a ton of resin.
ZoomZoomMX-5
07-25-2005, 04:54 PM
Oh...I bought some more tools, some CF, and a ton of resin.
And how much did that that ton of liquid resin cost you? :icon16:
I spent too much $$ at HLJ and Best1Hobbies (not paying shipping was a treat, and the kit discounts at Best1Hobbies were pretty good), and like CADguy also enjoyed the show too much to be bothered to take the time to set up my tripod and take pics of the models. There were so many models on display it was impossible to look at them for long before getting worn out. I never did see all of them.
And how much did that that ton of liquid resin cost you? :icon16:
I spent too much $$ at HLJ and Best1Hobbies (not paying shipping was a treat, and the kit discounts at Best1Hobbies were pretty good), and like CADguy also enjoyed the show too much to be bothered to take the time to set up my tripod and take pics of the models. There were so many models on display it was impossible to look at them for long before getting worn out. I never did see all of them.
Eric Cole
07-25-2005, 06:18 PM
I did make it a point to walk every isle in the display area. At least this way the really amazing things, which was most of it, caught my eye and I could stop and look.
I still have mixed feelings on a judged contest though and the overall emphasis is definately military, which doesn't keep my interest for that long.
But hanging out with good friends was a lot of fun.
I still have mixed feelings on a judged contest though and the overall emphasis is definately military, which doesn't keep my interest for that long.
But hanging out with good friends was a lot of fun.
freakmech
07-25-2005, 06:39 PM
I really wish i could have made it. the worst part is i had just finished a big job and had the money to drive up but i wouldnt of had money to shop so i didnt go. i knew i would be crying not being able to afford all the badly needed rim sets and detail parts i would have wanted so i didnt even bother. Congratulations to all the members that took home prizes!
PS... if anybody has a lot of 18" and 19" rims they would like to sell.... please let me know.
PS... if anybody has a lot of 18" and 19" rims they would like to sell.... please let me know.
lumpulus
08-03-2005, 08:14 AM
Is there any truth to what I've been hearing about the best automotive entry, being stolen? I also heard parts were taken from other models.
If this is true.....not good.
If this is true.....not good.
ZoomZoomMX-5
08-03-2005, 08:24 AM
Is there any truth to what I've been hearing about the best automotive entry, being stolen? I also heard parts were taken from other models.
If this is true.....not good.
It is certainly not good :disappoin .
IPMS has hell to pay for this kind of thing happening. Every model was issued a claim ticket to prevent theft. Every modeler was expected to show the claim tickets for their models as they left. Obviously this was not done, due to a snafu in the awards banquet and the urge to get the doors open to let people pick up their models.
There are apparently security camera tapes that they'll try to see who took the model. It happened late after almost all the other models had already been picked up. It was rather surprising that this model had been left to sit out on it's own at that point, but that's not an excuse.
The entire show was riddled w/glitches. It was fun, but not as perfectly run as one would expect.
At our ACME show here in November, we have contingency plans if the model shows up. I can't imagine the thief being that bold/stupid, but who knows?
If this is true.....not good.
It is certainly not good :disappoin .
IPMS has hell to pay for this kind of thing happening. Every model was issued a claim ticket to prevent theft. Every modeler was expected to show the claim tickets for their models as they left. Obviously this was not done, due to a snafu in the awards banquet and the urge to get the doors open to let people pick up their models.
There are apparently security camera tapes that they'll try to see who took the model. It happened late after almost all the other models had already been picked up. It was rather surprising that this model had been left to sit out on it's own at that point, but that's not an excuse.
The entire show was riddled w/glitches. It was fun, but not as perfectly run as one would expect.
At our ACME show here in November, we have contingency plans if the model shows up. I can't imagine the thief being that bold/stupid, but who knows?
p9o1r1sche
08-03-2005, 08:31 AM
Which model got the best auto award?
ZoomZoomMX-5
08-03-2005, 08:38 AM
Which model got the best auto award?
Ferrari 250 GTO series 2 with the opening brass doors, by a builder from Mexico. Gorgeous model. I was told it won best auto, but I may be wrong.
Ferrari 250 GTO series 2 with the opening brass doors, by a builder from Mexico. Gorgeous model. I was told it won best auto, but I may be wrong.
Veyron
08-03-2005, 09:39 AM
It is certainly not good :disappoin .
IPMS has hell to pay for this kind of thing happening. Every model was issued a claim ticket to prevent theft. Every modeler was expected to show the claim tickets for their models as they left. Obviously this was not done, due to a snafu in the awards banquet and the urge to get the doors open to let people pick up their models.
There are apparently security camera tapes that they'll try to see who took the model. It happened late after almost all the other models had already been picked up. It was rather surprising that this model had been left to sit out on it's own at that point, but that's not an excuse.
The entire show was riddled w/glitches. It was fun, but not as perfectly run as one would expect.
At our ACME show here in November, we have contingency plans if the model shows up. I can't imagine the thief being that bold/stupid, but who knows?
I have e-mailed the owner of the GTO to find out if it was really stolen and if so what is being done about it.
IPMS has hell to pay for this kind of thing happening. Every model was issued a claim ticket to prevent theft. Every modeler was expected to show the claim tickets for their models as they left. Obviously this was not done, due to a snafu in the awards banquet and the urge to get the doors open to let people pick up their models.
There are apparently security camera tapes that they'll try to see who took the model. It happened late after almost all the other models had already been picked up. It was rather surprising that this model had been left to sit out on it's own at that point, but that's not an excuse.
The entire show was riddled w/glitches. It was fun, but not as perfectly run as one would expect.
At our ACME show here in November, we have contingency plans if the model shows up. I can't imagine the thief being that bold/stupid, but who knows?
I have e-mailed the owner of the GTO to find out if it was really stolen and if so what is being done about it.
lumpulus
08-03-2005, 11:36 AM
Good, straight from the Prancing Horse's mouth, as it were. :)
lumpulus
08-06-2005, 09:03 AM
So, any news on this?
Veyron
08-06-2005, 09:42 AM
So, any news on this?
Ramon hasn't returned my e-mail regarding the GTO...I heard he is slow to respond but he's very friendly.
As far as results of the contest they're yet to be posted....I'd say at this point they probably won't be.
Ramon hasn't returned my e-mail regarding the GTO...I heard he is slow to respond but he's very friendly.
As far as results of the contest they're yet to be posted....I'd say at this point they probably won't be.
CADguy
08-06-2005, 11:51 AM
The host club has really dropped the ball post-convention. They've been unresponsive to e-mails, and requests on the IPMS forum.
How hard is it to post a list of the winners?
There was so much chaos around the time of awards, that I didn't get to see who won awards in many categorys. They had already packed their models up and went home.
How hard is it to post a list of the winners?
There was so much chaos around the time of awards, that I didn't get to see who won awards in many categorys. They had already packed their models up and went home.
ZoomZoomMX-5
08-06-2005, 12:08 PM
The host club has really dropped the ball post-convention. They've been unresponsive to e-mails, and requests on the IPMS forum.
How hard is it to post a list of the winners?
There was so much chaos around the time of awards, that I didn't get to see who won awards in many categorys. They had already packed their models up and went home.
I'd say the ball was dropped long before the convention. Normally the IPMS Journal will list the winners w/a bunch of photos in the next issue. However this information should have been online right after the show.
For what is the biggest, most prestigious model show in probably the entire world, they really FU'ed big time in so many respects. The Nationals were anything but a well-oiled machine. I hope IPMS and other host clubs learn from the mistakes made this year.
How hard is it to post a list of the winners?
There was so much chaos around the time of awards, that I didn't get to see who won awards in many categorys. They had already packed their models up and went home.
I'd say the ball was dropped long before the convention. Normally the IPMS Journal will list the winners w/a bunch of photos in the next issue. However this information should have been online right after the show.
For what is the biggest, most prestigious model show in probably the entire world, they really FU'ed big time in so many respects. The Nationals were anything but a well-oiled machine. I hope IPMS and other host clubs learn from the mistakes made this year.
mike@af
08-06-2005, 01:44 PM
For what is the biggest, most prestigious model show in probably the entire world, they really FU'ed big time in so many respects. The Nationals were anything but a well-oiled machine. I hope IPMS and other host clubs learn from the mistakes made this year.
I agree, but it was run like crap. They had all these plans to make it a very thought out show, but none of those plans were executed. Such as the claim tickets. They made such a big deal about them, but never bothered to check them.
Our shows NNL South is a smaller show, but is run a whole lot better. Everything went pretty smoothly at last years show.
I agree, but it was run like crap. They had all these plans to make it a very thought out show, but none of those plans were executed. Such as the claim tickets. They made such a big deal about them, but never bothered to check them.
Our shows NNL South is a smaller show, but is run a whole lot better. Everything went pretty smoothly at last years show.
lumpulus
08-06-2005, 01:59 PM
The host club has really dropped the ball post-convention. They've been unresponsive to e-mails, and requests on the IPMS forum.
How hard is it to post a list of the winners?
There was so much chaos around the time of awards, that I didn't get to see who won awards in many categorys. They had already packed their models up and went home.
Who was the Host Club?
Personally, I think the problem is with the IPMS board, and that they insist on having the banquest AND hold the models and awards hostage until after they can kiss each others a$$es to their satisfaction at said banquet.
How hard is it to post a list of the winners?
There was so much chaos around the time of awards, that I didn't get to see who won awards in many categorys. They had already packed their models up and went home.
Who was the Host Club?
Personally, I think the problem is with the IPMS board, and that they insist on having the banquest AND hold the models and awards hostage until after they can kiss each others a$$es to their satisfaction at said banquet.
Veyron
08-10-2005, 09:26 AM
Just got response back from Ramon about his stolen GTO and I responded to his questions. Also assured him that all modelers are on the lookout for his model and that the ACME club would help anyway we can. Personally I don't think there's any solution unless the thief gives the car up anonymously or unless he was caught on a security camera.
Thank you Brian, and yes, unfortunately it is true, it was stolen, this is
to bad, since this model was very significant for me, the people at Atlanta
said that they are doing something but things move too slowly, and I don't
know what to do.
I f you hear something about the destiny of my car I will appreciate you let
me know.
By the way, where did you hear about my loss?
The IPMS Atlanta told me that they posted it somewhere but didn't told me
exactly where.
Best regards and thanks for your kind words
Ramón García
Thank you Brian, and yes, unfortunately it is true, it was stolen, this is
to bad, since this model was very significant for me, the people at Atlanta
said that they are doing something but things move too slowly, and I don't
know what to do.
I f you hear something about the destiny of my car I will appreciate you let
me know.
By the way, where did you hear about my loss?
The IPMS Atlanta told me that they posted it somewhere but didn't told me
exactly where.
Best regards and thanks for your kind words
Ramón García
DukeMan
08-10-2005, 10:09 AM
My god, what kind of animal would do such a thing? And how the hell did he manage to take it without anyone noticing it?! WTF! This is truly a sad sad sad story. Let´s all hope it will never happen ever again.
klutz_100
08-10-2005, 10:41 AM
Holy s**t!!!
I hope that wasn't the model I think it is!!!
I've only ever seen it via the web but it was gorgeous and the builder is a really nice guy.
It's a sad world we're in, when theft and fraud come into modelling.
Congratulations Ramon and at the same time I'm sad for you and I hope that your model will turn up someday, somehow.
stevenski
I hope that wasn't the model I think it is!!!
I've only ever seen it via the web but it was gorgeous and the builder is a really nice guy.
It's a sad world we're in, when theft and fraud come into modelling.
Congratulations Ramon and at the same time I'm sad for you and I hope that your model will turn up someday, somehow.
stevenski
mike@af
08-10-2005, 10:53 AM
The GTO with the scratchbuilt doors. I just remember that was one of the models stollen.
Good thing there were claim tickets *sarcasm*.
Good thing there were claim tickets *sarcasm*.
agamo
08-10-2005, 05:27 PM
Hello All:
I'm Ramon, the owner/builder of the "still missing" GTO Series II
First of all, I want to thank you all for your kind words on this happenings, some of you have sent me e-mails (Veyron: sorry for the delay on my answer, didn't check hotmail for a while) with compliments and comforting words, which I really appreciate.
You all are really great guys! I'm glad to belong to this forum.
Then, what happened, no more than what you already know, a friend of mine, who took the model to Atlanta, went to pick it up at 12:00 AM that night, and the model wasn't there, another friend told me he left the hotel contest room at approximately 11:15 and the model was still there, so who took it, was during this time frame.
And yes, it was confirmed by the Contest Chairman, that the model earned the "Best Auto of Show" award.
What makes things a little bit strange but gave some hope, is that, who took the model took also the 1st place trophy and the booklet (32 pages) of explanation & information about the model.
I want to think that a person who steals a model, takes just the model and leaves, doesn't take the time to pick everything, so, hopefully somebody took the model to a "safer place" thinking it wasn't being picked up, I know that this is some of ingenuity, but I still don't want to think it was just stolen.
I'm still very sad about this, this is the first time this happens to me, I have already participated in more than 100 contests most of them in Mexico, and never lost a mirror or an antenna, but what makes things worst is that this model particularly had a history of his own, and had a very special value for me, besides the money and the huge amount of time invested on it.
Today are 18 days since my model disappeared, everything is happening so slowly, I'm almost losing any hope, the people at the IPMS Atlanta told me that they requested the surveillance videos to the hotel, I hope this will lead us to know at least who took it.
And finally, if somebody knows something that lead us to find my GTO, or have any idea to help find it, I'll appreciate you let me know.
Any contact please address it to:
[email protected]
This is the e-mail I have always open, if I can help with anything else feel free to contact me to this.
Thank you again guys!
Best regards.
I'm Ramon, the owner/builder of the "still missing" GTO Series II
First of all, I want to thank you all for your kind words on this happenings, some of you have sent me e-mails (Veyron: sorry for the delay on my answer, didn't check hotmail for a while) with compliments and comforting words, which I really appreciate.
You all are really great guys! I'm glad to belong to this forum.
Then, what happened, no more than what you already know, a friend of mine, who took the model to Atlanta, went to pick it up at 12:00 AM that night, and the model wasn't there, another friend told me he left the hotel contest room at approximately 11:15 and the model was still there, so who took it, was during this time frame.
And yes, it was confirmed by the Contest Chairman, that the model earned the "Best Auto of Show" award.
What makes things a little bit strange but gave some hope, is that, who took the model took also the 1st place trophy and the booklet (32 pages) of explanation & information about the model.
I want to think that a person who steals a model, takes just the model and leaves, doesn't take the time to pick everything, so, hopefully somebody took the model to a "safer place" thinking it wasn't being picked up, I know that this is some of ingenuity, but I still don't want to think it was just stolen.
I'm still very sad about this, this is the first time this happens to me, I have already participated in more than 100 contests most of them in Mexico, and never lost a mirror or an antenna, but what makes things worst is that this model particularly had a history of his own, and had a very special value for me, besides the money and the huge amount of time invested on it.
Today are 18 days since my model disappeared, everything is happening so slowly, I'm almost losing any hope, the people at the IPMS Atlanta told me that they requested the surveillance videos to the hotel, I hope this will lead us to know at least who took it.
And finally, if somebody knows something that lead us to find my GTO, or have any idea to help find it, I'll appreciate you let me know.
Any contact please address it to:
[email protected]
This is the e-mail I have always open, if I can help with anything else feel free to contact me to this.
Thank you again guys!
Best regards.
mike@af
08-10-2005, 06:27 PM
I'll definately keep my out for it. Tonight is the IPMS meeting, hopefully someone will bring answers.
RunFlat
08-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Ramon,
Sorry for the news and we can only hope you get some good news soon.
I place this squarely and solely on the IMPS and they should be more aggressive in trying to resolve this.
Sorry for the news and we can only hope you get some good news soon.
I place this squarely and solely on the IMPS and they should be more aggressive in trying to resolve this.
67Shelbymustang
08-10-2005, 08:47 PM
wow ive got lots of respect for the people who dod those models my models suck compared to those.
and everybody elses lol
and everybody elses lol
lumpulus
08-12-2005, 08:06 AM
For someone who lost such a beautiful model, you sure are taking this awfully well! I would sue the pants off the IPMS, the Hotel, and anyone else I could think of for the amount of work and love you put into that gorgeous Ferrari.
lumpulus
08-29-2005, 07:49 AM
Still no results? Any links anyone?
RallyRaider
08-29-2005, 09:06 AM
And any news on the whereabouts of the stolen model and trophy?
CADguy
08-30-2005, 09:08 AM
And any news on the whereabouts of the stolen model and trophy?
There's been no mention of the stolen Ferrari, or the results of the contest on the IPMS forum. There have been numerous requests for information about the status of the stolen Ferrari. ALL IGNORED, and no response form the people who are responsible for resolving this.
If it had been the best tank or airplane, the IPMS guys would put forth some effort. But since it's just a car, why bother right?.
The show was fun, but the post-show has been a circus, and the organizers are starting to look like clowns.
There's been no mention of the stolen Ferrari, or the results of the contest on the IPMS forum. There have been numerous requests for information about the status of the stolen Ferrari. ALL IGNORED, and no response form the people who are responsible for resolving this.
If it had been the best tank or airplane, the IPMS guys would put forth some effort. But since it's just a car, why bother right?.
The show was fun, but the post-show has been a circus, and the organizers are starting to look like clowns.
klutz_100
08-30-2005, 09:31 AM
Can't we organise an "e.petition" or something to help Ramon out on this? Is there an email adres we can mail to keep the preasuure up on the organisers?
Just a thought but I think Ramon deserves all the help he can get to try and recover the model he invested so much time and effort in.
Just a thought but I think Ramon deserves all the help he can get to try and recover the model he invested so much time and effort in.
agamo
08-30-2005, 04:24 PM
Hello all:
Thousand thanks for your support.
I have been sending e-mails to the Chairman of the contest Paul Cotcher, with no any response, it's a shame they are being so insensitive to this event, it seems that they simply do not take any responsibility.
He told me they would receive the surveilance videos from the hotel, but that was 3 weeks ago, and have no any other response from them, even when I have sent some e-mails requesting it.
It's a shame this things can happen, but it's worst the response of the "responsible" people...
Thousand thanks for your support.
I have been sending e-mails to the Chairman of the contest Paul Cotcher, with no any response, it's a shame they are being so insensitive to this event, it seems that they simply do not take any responsibility.
He told me they would receive the surveilance videos from the hotel, but that was 3 weeks ago, and have no any other response from them, even when I have sent some e-mails requesting it.
It's a shame this things can happen, but it's worst the response of the "responsible" people...
CADguy
08-30-2005, 05:09 PM
I posted a request for an update about your missing Ferrari on the IPMS forum, and the status of the video footage.
This is the response Paul Cotcher wrote:
Regarding the security footage - from what I've been told they had sent out the server that contained the footage from that time frame for servicing and were waiting to get it back to send us the CD with the footage from the four cameras in the display room.
However, what's interesting, is that given what the different witnesses have told us regarding the time frame that they saw the model still in the room, and when the owner went back to get it, we're concerned that it may not have been a convention attendee that took it.
We are still working on it here, and will post when we have anything of substance.
I can't believe that Paul can post in an international forum, but can not take the time to answer your very important e-mails.
I'm guessing the next thing we'll hear regarding your stolen model is that the security footage was lost on the computer during it's service.
It's a shame that this crime doesn't seem to be taken seriously by the people we trusted with the well being of our models for 4 days.
This is the response Paul Cotcher wrote:
Regarding the security footage - from what I've been told they had sent out the server that contained the footage from that time frame for servicing and were waiting to get it back to send us the CD with the footage from the four cameras in the display room.
However, what's interesting, is that given what the different witnesses have told us regarding the time frame that they saw the model still in the room, and when the owner went back to get it, we're concerned that it may not have been a convention attendee that took it.
We are still working on it here, and will post when we have anything of substance.
I can't believe that Paul can post in an international forum, but can not take the time to answer your very important e-mails.
I'm guessing the next thing we'll hear regarding your stolen model is that the security footage was lost on the computer during it's service.
It's a shame that this crime doesn't seem to be taken seriously by the people we trusted with the well being of our models for 4 days.
D_LaMz
08-30-2005, 06:05 PM
Man, I'm feel bad about your loss. You put all that work in to car and now its gone! Hopefully it will show up.
Sticky Fingers
08-31-2005, 03:52 AM
Hopefully the thief will be stupid enough to enter it into another show! :eek:
sjelic
08-31-2005, 04:03 AM
Such a shame :(
after reading all of this I wouldn't trust organisers either. Maybe some of the judges liked it to much. Not to point the finger but it all smells pretty bad.
after reading all of this I wouldn't trust organisers either. Maybe some of the judges liked it to much. Not to point the finger but it all smells pretty bad.
klutz_100
08-31-2005, 04:22 AM
Aren't they insured at least?
It would be a VERY poor substitute for Ramon but at least if the organisers' insurance was hit, then there would be implications for the insurance premium at the next shows and at least it would motivate all concerned about ensuring this kind of thing never happens again!
The loss is bad enough but it would be negligent/remiss in the extreme not to learn all possible form this incident and take appropriate measures in the future.
In my opinion - a financial hit for the organisers and/or insurers is the best carrot (or stick) to get them moving on it.
my :2cents:
It would be a VERY poor substitute for Ramon but at least if the organisers' insurance was hit, then there would be implications for the insurance premium at the next shows and at least it would motivate all concerned about ensuring this kind of thing never happens again!
The loss is bad enough but it would be negligent/remiss in the extreme not to learn all possible form this incident and take appropriate measures in the future.
In my opinion - a financial hit for the organisers and/or insurers is the best carrot (or stick) to get them moving on it.
my :2cents:
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