Import Builders
charlesparks
04-26-2002, 12:38 PM
I'm really interested in the import scene and I'm planning on buying a Del Sol S in the near future (probably one that's been through a wreck where I can get it cheap and add my own aftermarket body kit). I have read up quite a bit on the CRV-Tec or LS-Vtec frankenstein engine, and I came across importbuilders.com. They sell a built LS-Vtec with several aftermarket internal parts (pistons, cams, etc). I was wondering if its worth buying it from them, or if its best to grab a B16A (or just buy the Del Sol VTEC) and a B20Z and just build it myself. What are the price differences and what would the performance differences be?
madtownhonda
04-26-2002, 02:18 PM
Me personally, I would go CRVTEC.....no replacement for displacement. There are several places you can send your block out to to get built or you can try to find a place in WY. I am lucky to have a reputable place near my house that I can drop the block off at when I get all the parts for my CRVTEC (and another car so I don't have to worry about turn around time. LSVTEC is a decent choice as well, but I want to make as much power as possible. A fully built CRVTEC is a beast, anywhere from 200whp to 250whp all motor is what I've seen depending on tuning, engine management(hondata, etc), and other stuff. In a del sol, that should be good for mid 12s pass easy.
It would probably be cheaper to buy a fully assembled block because labor is going to cost a lot, more than a $1000 to fully build a CRVTEC properly and most likely more than that, plus shipping (there and back). I plan on spending about $5000-6000 on the motor alone over about a year and half time, give or take and I'm sure I'll change my mind again down the road again soon.
It would probably be cheaper to buy a fully assembled block because labor is going to cost a lot, more than a $1000 to fully build a CRVTEC properly and most likely more than that, plus shipping (there and back). I plan on spending about $5000-6000 on the motor alone over about a year and half time, give or take and I'm sure I'll change my mind again down the road again soon.
turboedsol
04-26-2002, 04:16 PM
does anyone know how much there engine packages cost. it doesnt say on the site. that 225 hp at thewheels would do nice on my sol. maybe even get it turboed on top of that 325+ hp. that would shut people up about the sol lookin girly. i would have to redue the whole supension if i had the much power wouldnt i?
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mikeowen
04-27-2002, 05:17 PM
yeah how much are those packages? and do you think the site means take 1500$ off for the turbo package? i mean you get less so it wouldnt make sense to ad 1500$ would it? maybe i am jsut wishing.
Prelussion
04-27-2002, 05:30 PM
I suggest ImportBuilders, Jeff is a nice guy, but as for your built ls/vtec. I think it's around $6k
mikeowen
04-27-2002, 06:56 PM
man he quoted me 11k-13k for the cr-vtec swap. whoa
kane2g
04-29-2002, 12:24 AM
why not get yourself a SR20DET motor and have 200HP and 200 TQ. They go for about 2K for the whole swap. Sure is a lot better than a torqueless b16a
mellowboy
04-29-2002, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by madtownhonda
I am lucky to have a reputable place near my house that I can drop the block off at when I get all the parts for my CRVTEC (and another car so I don't have to worry about turn around time.
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and what shop is that?? I hope its not the one in Milwaukee that ripped off my friend??
I am lucky to have a reputable place near my house that I can drop the block off at when I get all the parts for my CRVTEC (and another car so I don't have to worry about turn around time.
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and what shop is that?? I hope its not the one in Milwaukee that ripped off my friend??
Prelussion
05-04-2002, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by kane2g
why not get yourself a SR20DET motor and have 200HP and 200 TQ. They go for about 2K for the whole swap. Sure is a lot better than a torqueless b16a
I hope your joking about putting the DET engine in a Del Sol.
why not get yourself a SR20DET motor and have 200HP and 200 TQ. They go for about 2K for the whole swap. Sure is a lot better than a torqueless b16a
I hope your joking about putting the DET engine in a Del Sol.
sparq
05-04-2002, 04:23 PM
Well in all essence, it is possible... but you would have one of the biggest wiring nightmares on your hands :bloated:
Its not all about HORSEPOWER... and its not all about TORQUE...
TORQUE is what moves you -- but HORSEPOWER determines "how fast" you get to the power...
You could have a 10,000ft-lbs motor -- with 1hp, and you aint going anywhere fast :finger:
Its not all about HORSEPOWER... and its not all about TORQUE...
TORQUE is what moves you -- but HORSEPOWER determines "how fast" you get to the power...
You could have a 10,000ft-lbs motor -- with 1hp, and you aint going anywhere fast :finger:
sparq
05-04-2002, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by mikeowen
man he quoted me 11k-13k for the cr-vtec swap. whoa Damn kid!
What kind of specs are you looking for with the swap -- like do you want all kinds of goofy stuff like a B17 crank and custom pistons and yadda yadda or are you just looking for block w/ VTEC head and get it running (oil lines for the head squirters... etc)
man he quoted me 11k-13k for the cr-vtec swap. whoa Damn kid!
What kind of specs are you looking for with the swap -- like do you want all kinds of goofy stuff like a B17 crank and custom pistons and yadda yadda or are you just looking for block w/ VTEC head and get it running (oil lines for the head squirters... etc)
OpticReflexion
05-04-2002, 08:03 PM
they quoted me 9k-15k for package 4
kane2g
05-05-2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by Prelussion
I hope your joking about putting the DET engine in a Del Sol.
I never said to put it in a Del Sol. I was thinking 240, because it would be a lot better car to build if you want something fast and still not spend a lot of $$$.
I think that the sr20DET is the best power for $ you can get for an import. But if you have to have a Delsol, go w/ B series. Just dont expect to be the fastest guy there. That will only make you equal w/ a GSR or SI.
Just my 2 cents
I hope your joking about putting the DET engine in a Del Sol.
I never said to put it in a Del Sol. I was thinking 240, because it would be a lot better car to build if you want something fast and still not spend a lot of $$$.
I think that the sr20DET is the best power for $ you can get for an import. But if you have to have a Delsol, go w/ B series. Just dont expect to be the fastest guy there. That will only make you equal w/ a GSR or SI.
Just my 2 cents
CivicLx
05-18-2002, 11:34 AM
I didn't read all the posts, so I'm not sure if you were going to do it yourself or not, but I heard Import Builders is really good. That's probably where I'm going to get mine done, if I ever do it. Didn't he used to work at Atomic Performance?
j.fuggi
05-19-2002, 01:22 PM
package 3 turbo was $14500 for me ... god damn! :*(
tenzoracerevovii
05-29-2002, 12:23 AM
the n/a "dominator" package from IB costs like 12 grand.....but it's like 230 WHP.......man.....jeremy lookofsky has like, 250 whp and he WAS the fastest n/a front wheel drive car......but didn't some ERICK fellow beat his record?.......i think he has like 260.....crazy...that IB engine will make your del sol flyyyyyy.....
Vizyun
05-30-2002, 11:07 AM
Import Builders is a very reputable shop. They are in the process right now of performing a k20A2 (RSX-S) engine swap into a 7th gen coupe. I've spoken to the owner online several times, and he has nothing but good things to say about their service and quality. That's what you're really paying for. :flash:
CivicLx
05-30-2002, 03:00 PM
Did he used to work at Atomic Performance? Does Dr Charles work at Area 51 now? Was Jeff ever in the military?
sick_sol
11-27-2002, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by madtownhonda
I am lucky to have a reputable place near my house that I can drop the block off at when I get all the parts for my CRVTEC
I also live in Wisconsin. Can you tell me what the name of this place is. I have a 93 Del Sol that I want to put a b16 into. I need to find a place to do it.
I am lucky to have a reputable place near my house that I can drop the block off at when I get all the parts for my CRVTEC
I also live in Wisconsin. Can you tell me what the name of this place is. I have a 93 Del Sol that I want to put a b16 into. I need to find a place to do it.
mellowboy
11-27-2002, 06:40 PM
It better not be that speedshop in milwaukee. They SUCK! and they fucked over my friend. I would not go there if i were u. Its under a different name but the same owner (Parnell)
sick_sol
11-27-2002, 08:19 PM
i think i know who you'r talking about. didn't it used to be called speedworks or something like that. I think the new place is revtech. i might be wrong, my opologies if i am. I don't want to bash a legit business if i get the names confused.
mellowboy
11-27-2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by sick_sol
i think i know who you'r talking about. didn't it used to be called speedworks or something like that. I think the new place is revtech. i might be wrong, my opologies if i am. I don't want to bash a legit business if i get the names confused.
No i think you're rite. It is speedworks. Yeh its under a different name but still its not a good business
i think i know who you'r talking about. didn't it used to be called speedworks or something like that. I think the new place is revtech. i might be wrong, my opologies if i am. I don't want to bash a legit business if i get the names confused.
No i think you're rite. It is speedworks. Yeh its under a different name but still its not a good business
sick_sol
11-27-2002, 11:52 PM
a budy of mine had a 91 crx si in there for an engine swap when the place shut down the first time. i think parnell split town and the new is owned by the one the guys that used to work for parnell. they charge even more than he did. plus we never saw my buddies crx again. it's sitting in downtown milwaukee somewhere now and that was like 4 or 5 months ago, maybe longer.
mellowboy
11-28-2002, 10:15 AM
Well why doesn't he try to get it back? That new shop is still own by parnell. Trust me he thinks hes "slick" but hes not. Its under a different guys name but really its parnells place. SO that way the fbi or whoever can't get him easily. Man just try to get the rex back if its just sittin there?
sick_sol
11-28-2002, 01:00 PM
tried that. it's not just sitting there. it's in an impound somewhere.
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