brake problems?
jakegday
07-14-2005, 05:11 PM
hi, first of all, YES, i did a search before posting, now the problem im having only happens once i starting driving for about 10-15 minutes, it never happens right away when i first start my car and take off, i hear a squeaking noise, im almost positive its coming from my front end (its kinda hard to tell when your inside the car, ya know), it does it constantly, when i go to press on my brakes the squeak goes away immediately, when i let off my brakes the squeak comes back a few seconds later, at first i thought my front brakes were going bad, so i took off both front tires, looked at the brakes, they looked fine, they looked like they were more then halfway through their life, but they werent anywhere near paper thin, the rotors have very small grooves in them (like a record) but i was told thats normal, also, those "squeakers" that come on the brakes, the things that are designed to squeak to let you know your brakes are getting really bad, i pulled both of those back with a pair of pliers, just in case that was the problem, i put the tires back on, took it for a test drive, the problem did not change, any suggestions????
jonsonton
07-14-2005, 10:37 PM
Sometimes, through heat, the outer most edges or the brake pad curl, ever so slightly, which can cause a squeal. Also the brake pad can glaze over, also heat induced, producing a mirror like finish. This causes the pad to be do hard for the rotor causing a squeal also.
You can try removing the brake pads and checking for this. If you have either 2, get some 120 grit sandpaper and first sand the surface area of the brake pad, then sand all edges on a 45 degree angle. When putting back together make sure to use a good silocone lube. I hope this helps.
You can try removing the brake pads and checking for this. If you have either 2, get some 120 grit sandpaper and first sand the surface area of the brake pad, then sand all edges on a 45 degree angle. When putting back together make sure to use a good silocone lube. I hope this helps.
jakegday
07-15-2005, 07:39 AM
that is some good information, you said thats heat induced which makes sense, it hasnt been below 90 degrees here in about 3 weeks, im gonna try putting a new set of pads on it this weekend, its only $20, if that doesnt fix the problem i think im gonna move on to the rotors, is there a chance it could be the rotors??
jakegday
07-18-2005, 05:47 PM
well i put new pads on yesterday, i was wrong about the old pads, they looked almost new, they were really thick yet, they werent glazed at all, they looked perfect, i put my new ones on anyways and havent heard 1 squeak yet,
PsychoJJ
07-18-2005, 05:50 PM
Welcome to the land of GM rotors. Chances are give it another week or two and that damn sound will be back. Some parts on our cars just really suck a fat one. :lol2:
jakegday
07-18-2005, 07:59 PM
Welcome to the land of GM rotors. Chances are give it another week or two and that damn sound will be back. Some parts on our cars just really suck a fat one. :lol2:
thanks for the reassurance
thanks for the reassurance
PsychoJJ
07-18-2005, 08:01 PM
Its not that big a deal. Just slap on some slotted rotors and some hawk performance pads and you will be stopping on a dime on edge noislessly in no time flat.
Everyone always spends so much time on going faster and sounding louder that not alot of people think about stopping quick. I would rather drop $200 for great stopping then that same $200 to get an extra 100hp if there was such a device that did such a thing.
Everyone always spends so much time on going faster and sounding louder that not alot of people think about stopping quick. I would rather drop $200 for great stopping then that same $200 to get an extra 100hp if there was such a device that did such a thing.
jakegday
07-18-2005, 08:19 PM
if i had $200 and i could either get good brakes or 100 extra hp, i'd defintetly take the horsepower, but about the brakes, i dont care about stopping really fast, i stay in town most of the time and dont go over 40, (despite the occasional "need for speed") stock brakes work great at under 40 mph, i just dont like driving around town and everyone staring me down cuz they can hear my car, in the end if i HAVE to pay $200 go get my car quiet, i probably will, thank you for the brake advice though, is that what you have on your car?
PsychoJJ
07-18-2005, 08:43 PM
yip
Coupons420
07-21-2005, 02:51 AM
yip
do the performance breaks actually work all that better? and as for sloted doesnt that fuck the breakes up since its not a constant flow rate, kinda like stoping on a cheese grater?
do the performance breaks actually work all that better? and as for sloted doesnt that fuck the breakes up since its not a constant flow rate, kinda like stoping on a cheese grater?
PsychoJJ
07-21-2005, 03:22 AM
do the performance breaks actually work all that better? and as for sloted doesnt that fuck the breakes up since its not a constant flow rate, kinda like stoping on a cheese grater?
Comparing the hawk brake pads to stock or even cheaper quality after market pads is a huge difference. I get great stopping power even in water and there is little to no brake dust. I painted my front calipers red and only used the high temp paint rather then go the route of the stage system for actually painting only calipers and the paint on them still looks fresh as the day I painted them.
Using only slotted after market rotors only does the grater effect if you buy from a company that doesnt know their shit. If you go with brembo or powerslot to name a few off hand it doesnt have that much of an effect other then alot more of an added bite when stopping. It also cuts your wet stopping distance in half. Most people tend to stay more to either just cross drilled or cross drilled and slotted but I have seen too many rotors cracks thanks to the rigors of stop and go driving and high temp condition. With the cross drilling of some rotor brands once the metal hits its hotest point and having the drill holes it breaks down the structural integraty of the rotor and may crack.
Comparing the hawk brake pads to stock or even cheaper quality after market pads is a huge difference. I get great stopping power even in water and there is little to no brake dust. I painted my front calipers red and only used the high temp paint rather then go the route of the stage system for actually painting only calipers and the paint on them still looks fresh as the day I painted them.
Using only slotted after market rotors only does the grater effect if you buy from a company that doesnt know their shit. If you go with brembo or powerslot to name a few off hand it doesnt have that much of an effect other then alot more of an added bite when stopping. It also cuts your wet stopping distance in half. Most people tend to stay more to either just cross drilled or cross drilled and slotted but I have seen too many rotors cracks thanks to the rigors of stop and go driving and high temp condition. With the cross drilling of some rotor brands once the metal hits its hotest point and having the drill holes it breaks down the structural integraty of the rotor and may crack.
Coupons420
07-22-2005, 06:56 PM
how bout these?
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Monte+Carlo+LS&autoYear=2000&autoModClar=&make=PowerSlot&model=ProStop+II+Rotor&perfCode=S
i didnt know breaks put off gas? thats nuts
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Monte+Carlo+LS&autoYear=2000&autoModClar=&make=PowerSlot&model=ProStop+II+Rotor&perfCode=S
i didnt know breaks put off gas? thats nuts
PsychoJJ
07-22-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeah, like I said above powerslot does make some kick ass rotors that last great for every day driving.
01Cavy
07-23-2005, 01:55 AM
how bout these?
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Monte+Carlo+LS&autoYear=2000&autoModClar=&make=PowerSlot&model=ProStop+II+Rotor&perfCode=S
i didnt know breaks put off gas? thats nuts
I have those powerslot rotors along with carbon metallic pads on my car. They work great and I really have little to no break dust.
I didn't pay that much for them though. Try this http://performance.thepartsbin.com/basket.php?makeid=2&modelid=9&year=2001&partid=166&brandid=100 Thats where I got my rotors, and yes they are the actual powerslot brand rotors.
http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brakes.jsp?autoMake=Chevrolet&autoModel=Monte+Carlo+LS&autoYear=2000&autoModClar=&make=PowerSlot&model=ProStop+II+Rotor&perfCode=S
i didnt know breaks put off gas? thats nuts
I have those powerslot rotors along with carbon metallic pads on my car. They work great and I really have little to no break dust.
I didn't pay that much for them though. Try this http://performance.thepartsbin.com/basket.php?makeid=2&modelid=9&year=2001&partid=166&brandid=100 Thats where I got my rotors, and yes they are the actual powerslot brand rotors.
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