1/6 F1 Model

I heard today that there is a run of 25 limited edition F1's being produced at the 1/6 scale. These should be quite the hot item! Anyone hear anything?


WG

We've had two discussions in the past. The first thread most likely relates to the story you have heard, though he hasn't been back to share anymore info with us. The photos in the thread aren't working, but I can re-host them later.

1/5th scale model of beloved F1 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=217714)

There's also this thread (with working images) of some large scale models made by/for McLaren in the past.

Wanted: Big Scale Mac Model (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=195078)

>8^)
ER

We've had two discussions in the past. The first thread most likely relates to the story you have heard, though he hasn't been back to share anymore info with us. The photos in the thread aren't working, but I can re-host them later.

1/5th scale model of beloved F1 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=217714)

There's also this thread (with working images) of some large scale models made by/for McLaren in the past.

Wanted: Big Scale Mac Model (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=195078)

>8^)
ER

Thanks P! I got looking after I found that photo on the MclarenFreak temp site. I found a company in Canada that is making the 25 and they are sending me the info later this week. You'll get it as soon as I do.


WG :naughty:

What are the restrictions on producing these models? I assume you have to get permissions from all real manufacturers etc.?

Just curious.


WG

We've had two discussions in the past. The first thread most likely relates to the story you have heard, though he hasn't been back to share anymore info with us. The photos in the thread aren't working, but I can re-host them later.

1/5th scale model of beloved F1 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=217714)

There's also this thread (with working images) of some large scale models made by/for McLaren in the past.

Wanted: Big Scale Mac Model (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=195078)

>8^)
ER


HOLY S**T! I mean damn!
The black GTR at the back and next to the McLF1 engine looks awesome. AWESOME! That's absolutely car model's benchmark!
That's how every single model should look like. Well, then again of course. McLaren built it. U can expect excellent quality from it. Attention to detail :grinyes: lol
But can I buy one of those? Not the blue GTR model, but the black one. GODDAMN, the black one looks absolutely stunning!

I'm going to guess and say that its not for sale. Looks to be a solid core model - possibly made for wind tunnel evaluations, then taken to the next level with all the extra detail, but I can't be sure of that. It is damn cool though.

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ER

I t really is sad, because all those(well pretty much) models out there don't match my expectation

Thanks P! I got looking after I found that photo on the MclarenFreak temp site. I found a company in Canada that is making the 25 and they are sending me the info later this week. You'll get it as soon as I do.


WG :naughty:

Here is the information:

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for your call. My wife delivered our baby this weekend
so I am only checking emails remotely for the next short while. In any
case, here is what we can say so far to advertise the McLaren F1:

1. I am going to make 25 of them, but this number may increase depending
upon popularity. However, the edtion will never be larger than say 64 at
most, and most probably will be just 25.
2. Any version will be available but we will start with the standard
road car in a variety of colors first, and then continue with the LM,
GTR, etc. in all race liveries. We will also be doing 'post race'
versions ie. The UENO Clinic car with grease, dirt, etc. the way it
looked after LeMans.
3. The model will be 1/5 scale, about 3 feet long and around 50 lbs. No
parts will open which is standard for large scale models built in such
tiny numbers by cottage industry type builders. However, everything
visible will be highly detailed to include body, engine, cockpit, brake
rotors, etc. and the paint finish will be exceptional.
4. The model will be ready within 6-9 months.
5. Retail will be around US$10 000 but this might change.

MB.


So guys here are the details. He ahs asked me to wait on letting everyone know who he is until he gets the item up and running. Then he will start posting here himself. He asked me to get items from all of you that you would like to see on these cars (as the experts you are) and he will do his best to accomodate.

WG

Here is the information:

Hi Wayne,

Thanks for your call. My wife delivered our baby this weekend
so I am only checking emails remotely for the next short while. In any
case, here is what we can say so far to advertise the McLaren F1:

1. I am going to make 25 of them, but this number may increase depending
upon popularity. However, the edtion will never be larger than say 64 at
most, and most probably will be just 25.
2. Any version will be available but we will start with the standard
road car in a variety of colors first, and then continue with the LM,
GTR, etc. in all race liveries. We will also be doing 'post race'
versions ie. The UENO Clinic car with grease, dirt, etc. the way it
looked after LeMans.
3. The model will be 1/5 scale, about 3 feet long and around 50 lbs. No
parts will open which is standard for large scale models built in such
tiny numbers by cottage industry type builders. However, everything
visible will be highly detailed to include body, engine, cockpit, brake
rotors, etc. and the paint finish will be exceptional.
4. The model will be ready within 6-9 months.
5. Retail will be around US$10 000 but this might change.

MB.


So guys here are the details. He ahs asked me to wait on letting everyone know who he is until he gets the item up and running. Then he will start posting here himself. He asked me to get items from all of you that you would like to see on these cars (as the experts you are) and he will do his best to accomodate.

WG


WOW!!
Only $10,000 thats really cheap.......i will have to sell my real car..:(
MM

WOW!!
Only $10,000 thats really cheap.......i will have to sell my real car..:(
MM

Well, look at it like this. You can get a $10k credit card. If the West #8 car is the best example appreciation, and the 1/12th editions are middle of the road examples then this should do well as an investment.

Personally, I will not sell the one I buy, ever, unless of course Life or death is the other option.

I will keep you guys up to date as things progress.

Regards
WG

You are actually going to buy one for $10,000?

$10,000 for a closed model... unlicensed even. Would have to see the details.

If done 'right' I have no doubt it could be an impressive piece. Unfortunately, if I'm buying a car for $10,000 it better have a real engine and a seat I can fit in. I'm going to want to take it for a drive and even at that price, it had better be quick or at least a lot of fun.

I'm certainly interested in the finished product here, but unfortunately not from the standpoint of a real customer.

>8^)
ER

Peloton, what do you think a sensible price would be for something like this if it were mass-manufactured instead of handmade?

I am thinking $300-500.

Hello Everybody....
about these 1/5 models for the Mclaren, i find it very, very interesting....
congratulations to the person in Canada who will be working on those babies....you had a great idea, of course you have to have a very good sopnsor or investment so you can make them. and you have to have also a 3D model so you can 'print' the model in resin or whatever you'll use to do it using the milling machine.

anyway, because i'm a Car Designer, i also understand what the cost of that is. i would say that 10k US should be OK for some piece like that in that scale.
'cause last year when i graduated i developed my thesis car Project, which was a Jaguar Sport car, and me and my partner did the Exterior and Interior separately in 1/5 and 1/4 scale models.

they look amazing, and they were milled in polyurethane or PS ( in italian is called Poiuretano ) and painted in a Prototype company here in Turin, italy, http://www.cecompitalia.com/italiano/index.html

and the exterior model cost only 15K Euros and the interior around 10K
here i send u a couple of pics s ou can see the quality you can reach with these models. ( notice that these models don't even have the engine or nothing, and having present that the hood is supposed to be in glass!!! )
here are the pics of my project.
so honestly i would like to have some day one 1/5 mclaren so i can put it next to my JAG!! :) i think i might do it in a close future!!


BTW, how can i get in contact with this person in Canada?

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Peloton, what do you think a sensible price would be for something like this if it were mass-manufactured instead of handmade?

I am thinking $300-500.

Well the Paul's Model Art 1/12th scale cars were that price when new. I actually think a more realistic price for something like this one would be in the $2000-$3000 range. I still wouldn't be adding one to my collection at that price. I just can't imagine a model that would really justify a 5-figure price tag. Especially if none of the doors or engine cover will be moving parts.

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ER

Well the Paul's Model Art 1/12th scale cars were that price when new. I actually think a more realistic price for something like this one would be in the $2000-$3000 range. I still wouldn't be adding one to my collection at that price. I just can't imagine a model that would really justify a 5-figure price tag. Especially if none of the doors or engine cover will be moving parts.

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ER

I do agree of course...i think Peloton is right...i was also thinking about a price around that amount. betwen 2K or 4K if they were made a lot more...
here in italy i have been told that the 1/12 mclaren cost before 150 Euros and most of the hobbie stores had all the models.
amazing ehh?

and about the prices? well... i think i would arrive only to the price for the 1/12 mclaren ( 500 to 600 Euros ) not more than that...if the car opens all doors and everything, well, i think i would pay it 3K for it.....

ANYWAY, DOES ANYONE HAVE THE CONTACT WITH THIS GUY IN CANADA?

You are actually going to buy one for $10,000?

Well, if the quality is there yes I will buy one to keep and a couple to broker. We will see.

$10,000 for a closed model... unlicensed even. Would have to see the details.

In our phone conversation he said he was obtaining licensing.

ANYWAY, DOES ANYONE HAVE THE CONTACT WITH THIS GUY IN CANADA?[/QUOTE]

Yes, please send me your email address and I will put him in touch with you. He has asked to be kept anonymous until all the details are worked out and the cars are actually in physical production.

[email protected]

regards
Wayne

Even I don't use $10000 on a MODEL car!!!
It's a MODEL car!!!
MODEL!!!
!!!

Even I don't use $10000 on a MODEL car!!!
It's a MODEL car!!!
MODEL!!!
!!!

Exactly. Personally can't justify spending that much on a model. But then again, I don't have the resources to own a real one either. And I'm sure the people that can justify this with a few exceptions don't requent this forum.. or any other forum for that matter.

The thing that will really make it difficult for me to pass this up, is if the body was actual carbon fiber, wheels are actual magnesium alloy, billet aluminum engine block, and the structural parts made of magnesium and titanium alloys. Just a humble man with humble opinions.

But please don't let our modest incomes and not so modest opinions prevent the designer from completing his project. I am serious about wanting to at least see the final product.

Regards

On the real car, those components are made of those materials for a purpose--to enhance the car's performance/safety, etc.

What would be the point of using those materials on a model? No matter what, it's a model. Just a freaking model. At best, it's art. The criteria for judging art is different from the criteria for judging a real car. I don't believe making components out of authentic materials makes a piece of art better, but I don't really know. What I am saying is, would it really be better/more valuable/more collectible if the wheels on the model were made of magnesium instead of something else?

It would be interesting to hear the perspective of a real automotive art collector. And that of a real McLaren F1 owner.

well....about the ' it's a modell' thing....well yeah...might be a model with no opening parts....but it all depends on the final quality, on the Proportions, those are the most important things this guy has to keep intact!! proportions, it does have to look exactly the same as the real one, exactly the same as the 1/12 one.

i think when we all see those model, well, we'll just gonna fall in love on them.
if the model will have transparent windows, and you will be able to see the interior, and all the details ( with no opening parts ) i think that would be a very good achievement. it would look amazing.
let's wait until we get some pics in the future ( if he does the models of course :) )

here i found some pics of a 1/3 or 1/4 mclaren f1......i'm not sure of the exact scale....but it looks really nice that size, and you can also see the interior and everything.....BUT, if you look carefully, the rear bumper where the lights are, looks strange, looks not proportioned, looks bigger than the real car...

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS MODEL? DOES IT GIVE YOU A GOOD IMPRESION?

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There's something strange with the blinkers in the front as well...

There's something strange with the blinkers in the front as well...


yep...also that...those are very important details....i wonder how perfect will look the 1/5 mclarens from this guy in canada...

yep...also that...those are very important details....i wonder how perfect will look the 1/5 mclarens from this guy in canada...

hi,
i spoke with this canadian who happens to be my good old customer.he specialises in big scale models.he said it might take anywhere between 3-6 months before these fine models can hit the market and they will be made in UK.....
as mentioned before the price will be around $10,000 but there are chances of price dropping down..;)
By the way its 1/5 and NOT 1/6 in scale........
MM

I have seen two of the 1/5th scale Ferrari Enzo's this weekend up close, and even at the ~$6000 they want for it, I just don't think its worth it.

Of course I have wasted money on dumber things before, so....

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ER

You guys know...there ia also a thing like a too big model! I think the 1:12's are in that zone where the model is so big it looses some of it's charm. And the details are just becoming so viewable that you will always find room for improvement. I think the 1:18's are perfect because they are big enough to show some detail and feeling, while too small to have serious demands over them. I've seen many big scales, and I saw the F399 in 1/4 scale. Cool enough, but what on earth should you do with it if you had it? It dominates when put into a normal room and if you don't have it for a very special purpose like a business, museum, show or event I really don't see the joy of having a model as big as that!

It depends where you display it....some of us do have rooms big enough where a big model looks goood. I have a real Ducati motorcycle in my living room, and a formula racecar body hanging from a large wall. In a smaller room, a model of this size would still look decent on a wall.

It depends where you display it....some of us do have rooms big enough where a big model looks goood. I have a real Ducati motorcycle in my living room, and a formula racecar body hanging from a large wall. In a smaller room, a model of this size would still look decent on a wall.


A real Ducati is something else as it's a real Ducati motorcycle! A model is just a model, it has no other function and therefore I think it's overkill to build something in that large scale as it seems purposeless to me.
Also, a F1 body is from a REAL car and has, at least had some real area of usage. It's charming to a grade even if I don't see the point in having race car parts when there is a complete real car out there somewhere.

Then why hang pictures on your walls? Or buy souvenirs from places you have been to?

I don't buy souvenirs.

Whatever I have, I display it or hang it up on the wall and I enjoy looking at it. I think it enhances the decor of my rooms. A lot of the stuff reminds me of something or brings back pleasant memories. Some of the stuff is large and not real in any way--I don't have a problem with that.

My only beef with the large McLaren models is their price. I know they can be made for under $1,000, perhaps by using techniques different than what this artist is using. What's your point?

I said earlier that in 1:5 the demand of detail would be so challenging and that the model would have to have a real purpose to defend it's enourmous cost for building. I love models and I completely understand that someone would like one of those, I'm speaking on the behalf of those who actually thinks this would be a little too much of the good stuff! I too have respect and admiration of mechanical masterpieces, but I do not want a McLaren wheelnut, when I really would like the whole car. My models are for me the only affordable way of studing and admire all the design and look of the masterpieces theyre real brothers are. I just want all the supercars and will have to satisfy with their minis for now.... My point is however, I simply think the model is too big and I can not see a model that would justify the ammount of details that can be shown in a 1/5 scale, they would have to tone it down extremely!