First loss in tah bimmer
TypeS
07-06-2005, 03:38 PM
But it was still the best race. I went to testdrive the 5.7L GTO 6 speed on Saturday with a friend. I heard great things about the GM interior but the car didn't impress me at all. I doubt even the 6.0 with 50 more horses would change my mind.
Anyway, on my way back home I was going through a toll booth. There was a C5 Vette in the far right lane which was about to end. I always drive a little spirited, which might have given him an idea that I wanted to race. Well, we merged onto the highway going about 100 mph and slowed down. My friend rolled down the window and said "is that stock" Then, the second funniest thing of the afternoon happened. The guy smiles and litterally lifted his leg up to the steering wheel and stomped on the gas pedal. Then I heard a chirp coming from his tires, which made me go :eek7: because of the speed we were going already. I put it in 4th and just followed him.
He slowed down up ahead and this biiiiig long stretching turn was coming up. He was in the inside lane and I was in the outside. We were going about 70 this time, which a great spot to put it in 3rd. We took off at about the same time, and he could barely put a car length on me throughout the whole turn, even though I was in the outside lane. We got all the way up to 150 mph as the road straightened out.
I slowed down and he waved me to come up. We slowed down to about 50. I rolled down the window and the funniest thing happened. Picture this, this guy was about 35-40 and he looked really confused, on top of looking like a comic book character. He pointed at my hood and said "What do you have under that thing?!" "I'm stock" i said. He's like "Bullshit!" and started doing this :screwy: I don't have any engine mods, only a short shifter and CDV delete. I said "are you stock?" There were cars coming up behind us so I had to speed up. He pointed 4 fingers at me and then to the rear of his car. I couldn't tell what he was trying to say, but the exhaust didn't look stock to me. He took the next exit as my friend and I were laughing our asses off. I bet he thinks that something is wrong with his car...and I can't believe how smoothly this sedan took that turn at 150 mph in the outside lane.
Sometimes a loss is a lot more fun than a win.
Anyway, on my way back home I was going through a toll booth. There was a C5 Vette in the far right lane which was about to end. I always drive a little spirited, which might have given him an idea that I wanted to race. Well, we merged onto the highway going about 100 mph and slowed down. My friend rolled down the window and said "is that stock" Then, the second funniest thing of the afternoon happened. The guy smiles and litterally lifted his leg up to the steering wheel and stomped on the gas pedal. Then I heard a chirp coming from his tires, which made me go :eek7: because of the speed we were going already. I put it in 4th and just followed him.
He slowed down up ahead and this biiiiig long stretching turn was coming up. He was in the inside lane and I was in the outside. We were going about 70 this time, which a great spot to put it in 3rd. We took off at about the same time, and he could barely put a car length on me throughout the whole turn, even though I was in the outside lane. We got all the way up to 150 mph as the road straightened out.
I slowed down and he waved me to come up. We slowed down to about 50. I rolled down the window and the funniest thing happened. Picture this, this guy was about 35-40 and he looked really confused, on top of looking like a comic book character. He pointed at my hood and said "What do you have under that thing?!" "I'm stock" i said. He's like "Bullshit!" and started doing this :screwy: I don't have any engine mods, only a short shifter and CDV delete. I said "are you stock?" There were cars coming up behind us so I had to speed up. He pointed 4 fingers at me and then to the rear of his car. I couldn't tell what he was trying to say, but the exhaust didn't look stock to me. He took the next exit as my friend and I were laughing our asses off. I bet he thinks that something is wrong with his car...and I can't believe how smoothly this sedan took that turn at 150 mph in the outside lane.
Sometimes a loss is a lot more fun than a win.
illegal_eagle187
07-06-2005, 03:43 PM
nice race, yeah i dont like Pontiac or Chevrolet's interior, its so outdated, its been practicaly the same since like 94ish
TypeS
07-06-2005, 03:51 PM
nice race, yeah i dont like Pontiac or Chevrolet's interior, its so outdated, its been practicaly the same since like 94ish
Well, the interior is better than a lot of other cars actually, but not good enough coming out of a BMW.
What disappointed me was the power. That thing could probably only barely pull on the BMW and would get wasted in the twisties. :smokin: It's not worth losing heated seats, 2 doors, A LOT more room and a lot of other things for .4 seconds in the quarter mile. :2cents:
Well, the interior is better than a lot of other cars actually, but not good enough coming out of a BMW.
What disappointed me was the power. That thing could probably only barely pull on the BMW and would get wasted in the twisties. :smokin: It's not worth losing heated seats, 2 doors, A LOT more room and a lot of other things for .4 seconds in the quarter mile. :2cents:
illegal_eagle187
07-06-2005, 03:57 PM
well yeah i mean think about it........who would win the twisties, a pontiac or a bmw...hmm but yeah i understand what your saying
solaris=amazing
07-06-2005, 04:28 PM
Damn, 150mph...nice bro, i like vette's but alot of people make that go to there head.
"Oh, i got a vette...i'm the fastest car on the road".. That sort of thing.
The gto, yeah that car has a retarded power to weight ratio, just like the 05 mustang, horrible.
-Power to weight ratio, i keep on remembering my friends 89 hatch stang that was lightened to 2800lbs....with a 302 in it, and some bolt ons.... NOTHING, i repeat...NOTHING ever snapped my head back like that car, crazy. I've gotten a ride in a Z06....04 gt stang.....m3....nothing compared.
"Oh, i got a vette...i'm the fastest car on the road".. That sort of thing.
The gto, yeah that car has a retarded power to weight ratio, just like the 05 mustang, horrible.
-Power to weight ratio, i keep on remembering my friends 89 hatch stang that was lightened to 2800lbs....with a 302 in it, and some bolt ons.... NOTHING, i repeat...NOTHING ever snapped my head back like that car, crazy. I've gotten a ride in a Z06....04 gt stang.....m3....nothing compared.
CassiesMan
07-06-2005, 05:03 PM
I love power to weight ratios...Best example I have is a 9 sec 1/4 with 180hp...hehehe...
Anyways, good death, nothing like being able to hold with a Vette...then go pick up three more freinds and groceries.
Anyways, good death, nothing like being able to hold with a Vette...then go pick up three more freinds and groceries.
King Of Crunk
07-06-2005, 05:38 PM
good race man...
BlackGT2000
07-06-2005, 06:38 PM
This is no reflection on the race because I realize that more than power to weight plays a factor. Nor am I trying to change anyones opinions on vehical preference. I just thought I would point out the cars mentioned and their power to weight.
GTO
3725 Pounds
400 HP
400 Tq
0-60 5.0
1/4 Mile 13.3
9.3 Pounds per horsepower
BMW 540i V8 w/6m
3748 pounds
282 HP
324 Tq
0-60 5.5
1/4 Mile 14.0
13.2 Pounds per horsepower
2001 C5 Vette
3212 Pounds
350 Hp
360 Tq
0-60 4.8
1/4 Mile 13.3
9.1 Pounds per horsepower
2005 Mustang GT
3425 Pounds
300 Hp
315 Tq
0-60 5.1
1/4 Mile 13.5
11.4 Pounds per horsepower
GTO
3725 Pounds
400 HP
400 Tq
0-60 5.0
1/4 Mile 13.3
9.3 Pounds per horsepower
BMW 540i V8 w/6m
3748 pounds
282 HP
324 Tq
0-60 5.5
1/4 Mile 14.0
13.2 Pounds per horsepower
2001 C5 Vette
3212 Pounds
350 Hp
360 Tq
0-60 4.8
1/4 Mile 13.3
9.1 Pounds per horsepower
2005 Mustang GT
3425 Pounds
300 Hp
315 Tq
0-60 5.1
1/4 Mile 13.5
11.4 Pounds per horsepower
-Josh-
07-06-2005, 06:56 PM
Good race :wink:
Some cars just aren't made for everyone. I like the GTO interior, hell of a lot better than Pontiac has done in the past. Understandable though, like i said, not for everyone. I like the interior in the new Grand Prix's, but i know a lot of people who dont. Power to weight ratio doesn't mean shit if you dont have that ever so elusive driver mod. Cars are so blended together nowadays you can't really say, well this car is better than this one because.... Now it's all about personal preference, rather than a car actually being better than another, when you talk about high end cars such as these.
Some cars just aren't made for everyone. I like the GTO interior, hell of a lot better than Pontiac has done in the past. Understandable though, like i said, not for everyone. I like the interior in the new Grand Prix's, but i know a lot of people who dont. Power to weight ratio doesn't mean shit if you dont have that ever so elusive driver mod. Cars are so blended together nowadays you can't really say, well this car is better than this one because.... Now it's all about personal preference, rather than a car actually being better than another, when you talk about high end cars such as these.
TatII
07-06-2005, 06:57 PM
Damn, 150mph...nice bro, i like vette's but alot of people make that go to there head.
"Oh, i got a vette...i'm the fastest car on the road".. That sort of thing.
The gto, yeah that car has a retarded power to weight ratio, just like the 05 mustang, horrible.
-Power to weight ratio, i keep on remembering my friends 89 hatch stang that was lightened to 2800lbs....with a 302 in it, and some bolt ons.... NOTHING, i repeat...NOTHING ever snapped my head back like that car, crazy. I've gotten a ride in a Z06....04 gt stang.....m3....nothing compared.
haha thats more like tq to weight ratio. 302's dont make much peak hp and generally don't trap very high for their ET's.
"Oh, i got a vette...i'm the fastest car on the road".. That sort of thing.
The gto, yeah that car has a retarded power to weight ratio, just like the 05 mustang, horrible.
-Power to weight ratio, i keep on remembering my friends 89 hatch stang that was lightened to 2800lbs....with a 302 in it, and some bolt ons.... NOTHING, i repeat...NOTHING ever snapped my head back like that car, crazy. I've gotten a ride in a Z06....04 gt stang.....m3....nothing compared.
haha thats more like tq to weight ratio. 302's dont make much peak hp and generally don't trap very high for their ET's.
-The Stig-
07-06-2005, 07:12 PM
:bs:
How does a 282hp 540i keep up with a 350hp C5 Corvette from a Roll?
Power to weight has very little to do with a car that's already rolling. But, even power to weight still is a disadvantage to the BMW when compared to a C5 Corvette.
Which has a 68hp advantage, and more importantly far better aerodynamics.
BMW 540i's are nice. But don't hold a candle to a Corvette perfomance wise.
Sorry...
How does a 282hp 540i keep up with a 350hp C5 Corvette from a Roll?
Power to weight has very little to do with a car that's already rolling. But, even power to weight still is a disadvantage to the BMW when compared to a C5 Corvette.
Which has a 68hp advantage, and more importantly far better aerodynamics.
BMW 540i's are nice. But don't hold a candle to a Corvette perfomance wise.
Sorry...
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:18 PM
Good race :wink:
Some cars just aren't made for everyone. I like the GTO interior, hell of a lot better than Pontiac has done in the past. Understandable though, like i said, not for everyone. I like the interior in the new Grand Prix's, but i know a lot of people who dont. Power to weight ratio doesn't mean shit if you dont have that ever so elusive driver mod. Cars are so blended together nowadays you can't really say, well this car is better than this one because.... Now it's all about personal preference, rather than a car actually being better than another, when you talk about high end cars such as these.
Like I said, the interior wasn't bad, actually I was impressed because I expected a lot more cheap parts. Blaupunkt stereo wasn't bad either.
But I didn't like the performance. I expected a lot more from that car with that engine, but the car is just too heavy. If it was a 4 door, I'd understand why it's so heavy. BTW I test drove a 5.7, which is "only" the 350 hp version. Another thing is, the 540 isn't exactly geared for a 0-60 time.
Some cars just aren't made for everyone. I like the GTO interior, hell of a lot better than Pontiac has done in the past. Understandable though, like i said, not for everyone. I like the interior in the new Grand Prix's, but i know a lot of people who dont. Power to weight ratio doesn't mean shit if you dont have that ever so elusive driver mod. Cars are so blended together nowadays you can't really say, well this car is better than this one because.... Now it's all about personal preference, rather than a car actually being better than another, when you talk about high end cars such as these.
Like I said, the interior wasn't bad, actually I was impressed because I expected a lot more cheap parts. Blaupunkt stereo wasn't bad either.
But I didn't like the performance. I expected a lot more from that car with that engine, but the car is just too heavy. If it was a 4 door, I'd understand why it's so heavy. BTW I test drove a 5.7, which is "only" the 350 hp version. Another thing is, the 540 isn't exactly geared for a 0-60 time.
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:20 PM
:bs:
How does a 282hp 540i keep up with a 350hp C5 Corvette from a Roll?
Power to weight has very little to do with a car that's already rolling. But, even power to weight still is a disadvantage to the BMW when compared to a C5 Corvette.
Which has a 68hp advantage, and more importantly far better aerodynamics.
BMW 540i's are nice. But don't hold a candle to a Corvette perfomance wise.
Sorry...
Yes, I made that whole story up. You got me there.
How does a 282hp 540i keep up with a 350hp C5 Corvette from a Roll?
Power to weight has very little to do with a car that's already rolling. But, even power to weight still is a disadvantage to the BMW when compared to a C5 Corvette.
Which has a 68hp advantage, and more importantly far better aerodynamics.
BMW 540i's are nice. But don't hold a candle to a Corvette perfomance wise.
Sorry...
Yes, I made that whole story up. You got me there.
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:24 PM
What do they trap anyway? 540is have 102 mph. Add to that, it was auto vs 6 speed and it was from a roll, they won't be THAT far off.
-The Stig-
07-06-2005, 07:25 PM
I'd just like you to explain to me how it's possible... given the Vette was going flat out.
That you kept up being in a car that has less Horsepower and is less aerodynamic... and the fact that you say the Vette was in the inner turn lane... meaning he should of pulled away if you two were going the same speed cause he has the shorter distance.
And if you want to play power to weight ratios (which don't play much of a role when you're racing from a roll cause the weight is already moving)... you're still losing that battle cause you're heavier and a passenger.
Adding up all the factors, it seems that the Vette wasn't going full bore. More like toying.
That you kept up being in a car that has less Horsepower and is less aerodynamic... and the fact that you say the Vette was in the inner turn lane... meaning he should of pulled away if you two were going the same speed cause he has the shorter distance.
And if you want to play power to weight ratios (which don't play much of a role when you're racing from a roll cause the weight is already moving)... you're still losing that battle cause you're heavier and a passenger.
Adding up all the factors, it seems that the Vette wasn't going full bore. More like toying.
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:32 PM
I'd just like you to explain to me how it's possible... given the Vette was going flat out.
That you kept up being in a car that has less Horsepower and is less aerodynamic... and the fact that you say the Vette was in the inner turn lane... meaning he should of pulled away if you two were going the same speed cause he has the shorter distance.
And if you want to play power to weight ratios (which don't play much of a role when you're racing from a roll cause the weight is already moving)... you're still losing that battle cause you're heavier and a passenger.
Adding up all the factors, it seems that the Vette wasn't going full bore. More like toying.
What is their trap speed? 105? 107? Hell, I just saw one trapping 103 @ dragtimes.com
That you kept up being in a car that has less Horsepower and is less aerodynamic... and the fact that you say the Vette was in the inner turn lane... meaning he should of pulled away if you two were going the same speed cause he has the shorter distance.
And if you want to play power to weight ratios (which don't play much of a role when you're racing from a roll cause the weight is already moving)... you're still losing that battle cause you're heavier and a passenger.
Adding up all the factors, it seems that the Vette wasn't going full bore. More like toying.
What is their trap speed? 105? 107? Hell, I just saw one trapping 103 @ dragtimes.com
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:37 PM
And I'm in no way saying that an average 540i will beat an average corvette, but in this case, 6 speed vs auto, he could barely pull away.
It's not like I'm saying I beat it.
It's not like I'm saying I beat it.
-Josh-
07-06-2005, 07:43 PM
Did some calculations....
I have you at 5.5 car lengths back...real time...now i'll give you a car length or two since the environment wasn't factored in, so we'll say 4 lengths.
If you're wondering how. Final drive ratio, top speed, rolling speed, acceleration, and feet per second were all factored in. I really dont want to do that math again at the moment. I'm not saying you didn't race a C5, but my math has you farther back.
I have you at 5.5 car lengths back...real time...now i'll give you a car length or two since the environment wasn't factored in, so we'll say 4 lengths.
If you're wondering how. Final drive ratio, top speed, rolling speed, acceleration, and feet per second were all factored in. I really dont want to do that math again at the moment. I'm not saying you didn't race a C5, but my math has you farther back.
-The Stig-
07-06-2005, 07:46 PM
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:49 PM
Which is fine because I really thought that he would pull a lot harder than me. But he didn't. And judging by the suprised look in his face after the race, he was trying.
Now factor in that he might have been out of powerband when he floored his auto and the fact that it was a street race (where there are more factors than 1/4 times), anything could have happened when both cars are only a few mph apart in trap speeds.
Now factor in that he might have been out of powerband when he floored his auto and the fact that it was a street race (where there are more factors than 1/4 times), anything could have happened when both cars are only a few mph apart in trap speeds.
TypeS
07-06-2005, 07:50 PM
13.22 / 109 mph
http://www.konshak.com/corvette/Corvette_2001_Specs.htm
But there are some drivers out there who trap 103 - 105 mph.
Did I in any post say that the average 540i is faster than the vette? :grinno:
http://www.konshak.com/corvette/Corvette_2001_Specs.htm
But there are some drivers out there who trap 103 - 105 mph.
Did I in any post say that the average 540i is faster than the vette? :grinno:
-The Stig-
07-06-2005, 08:00 PM
Only a few mph off in the 1/4?
This guy posted a 14.2 @ 97.5mph
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-540i-Timeslip-5851.html
That's a pretty large gap in Trap speeds... that translates to numerous car lengths.
Now, I can understand him not being in the powerband when he got on it. Or if you had a slight jump on him and had a bit of momentum before he got on it. That's concievable.
This guy posted a 14.2 @ 97.5mph
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-540i-Timeslip-5851.html
That's a pretty large gap in Trap speeds... that translates to numerous car lengths.
Now, I can understand him not being in the powerband when he got on it. Or if you had a slight jump on him and had a bit of momentum before he got on it. That's concievable.
devster18
07-07-2005, 12:58 AM
Yeah, I dont see that being close, and corvettes have awesome auto trannys. If it was a manual I might understand... some people just can't race. Think you may have exagerated a bit? be honest.
90redgt
07-07-2005, 05:04 AM
But there are some drivers out there who trap 103 - 105 mph.
Did I in any post say that the average 540i is faster than the vette? :grinno:
I understand your argument Redneck, however consider two things.
1: Anything can happen on the street, to many variables to come to good and accurate answer for what happened.
2: driver ability, i don't know about you but the few vette owners i have come across could not drive very well. Considering the race was in a turn and not a flat straight away and the guy was 30-40 yrs. old. He was probably getting ready to have a heart attack going that fast so he let off. LOL got scared or something. So many things that could've happened.
Did I in any post say that the average 540i is faster than the vette? :grinno:
I understand your argument Redneck, however consider two things.
1: Anything can happen on the street, to many variables to come to good and accurate answer for what happened.
2: driver ability, i don't know about you but the few vette owners i have come across could not drive very well. Considering the race was in a turn and not a flat straight away and the guy was 30-40 yrs. old. He was probably getting ready to have a heart attack going that fast so he let off. LOL got scared or something. So many things that could've happened.
gti1689
07-07-2005, 11:12 AM
This guy posted a 14.2 @ 97.5mph
TypeS has been [email protected]. an auto convertible vette is a mid 13's car. honestly, the vette is faster, but accounting for driver hesitation, etc there really isn't much in it. I could see him keeping up. the 540's are v8's, so it's not like it would be totally outclassed by the vette on the highway.
TypeS has been [email protected]. an auto convertible vette is a mid 13's car. honestly, the vette is faster, but accounting for driver hesitation, etc there really isn't much in it. I could see him keeping up. the 540's are v8's, so it's not like it would be totally outclassed by the vette on the highway.
gti1689
07-07-2005, 11:15 AM
Yeah, I dont see that being close, and corvettes have awesome auto trannys. If it was a manual I might understand... some people just can't race. Think you may have exagerated a bit? be honest.
:eek7: manuals are faster. it's really hard for someone who's used to driving one, at least somewhat well, to screw up shifting gears on the highway. requires very little skill in my opinion. i think type s would have lost by more if it was a stick.
:eek7: manuals are faster. it's really hard for someone who's used to driving one, at least somewhat well, to screw up shifting gears on the highway. requires very little skill in my opinion. i think type s would have lost by more if it was a stick.
TypeS
07-07-2005, 11:21 AM
I understand your argument Redneck, however consider two things.
1: Anything can happen on the street, to many variables to come to good and accurate answer for what happened.
2: driver ability, i don't know about you but the few vette owners i have come across could not drive very well. Considering the race was in a turn and not a flat straight away and the guy was 30-40 yrs. old. He was probably getting ready to have a heart attack going that fast so he let off. LOL got scared or something. So many things that could've happened.
Exactly my point. Noone is saying that the Vette should have won by a few more lengths, but everyone drives differently.
And yes, even a vette can be out of powerband. Maybe if he raced a stock Civic it wouldn't matter, but when you have two cars within 5 mph or less in trap speed difference, little factors will make a difference.
1: Anything can happen on the street, to many variables to come to good and accurate answer for what happened.
2: driver ability, i don't know about you but the few vette owners i have come across could not drive very well. Considering the race was in a turn and not a flat straight away and the guy was 30-40 yrs. old. He was probably getting ready to have a heart attack going that fast so he let off. LOL got scared or something. So many things that could've happened.
Exactly my point. Noone is saying that the Vette should have won by a few more lengths, but everyone drives differently.
And yes, even a vette can be out of powerband. Maybe if he raced a stock Civic it wouldn't matter, but when you have two cars within 5 mph or less in trap speed difference, little factors will make a difference.
street_racer_00
07-08-2005, 01:37 AM
I'm going to have to go against you Matt...those 540s especially with the 6 speed can flat out book...the new ones run mid 13 second 1/4 mile...plus, if it was in fact an automatic, I'd call this race pretty much a coin toss...I've seen an automatic C5 get on it, and they aren't world beaters...I believe you, type S.
TypeS
07-10-2005, 04:35 PM
meh meh meh, haters.
How can anyone who knows anything about cars say that a 4 speed auto tranny car can't be out of powerband?
How can anyone who knows anything about cars say that a 4 speed auto tranny car can't be out of powerband?
TypeS
07-10-2005, 05:44 PM
Hata
-Josh-
07-10-2005, 07:31 PM
meh meh meh, haters.
How can anyone who knows anything about cars say that a 4 speed auto tranny car can't be out of powerband?
The 4L80E is a strong tranny.
How can anyone who knows anything about cars say that a 4 speed auto tranny car can't be out of powerband?
The 4L80E is a strong tranny.
TypeS
07-10-2005, 08:21 PM
Haha, who said anything about it being a weak tranny? It's still only has 4 gears. And you must be an idiot if you think that an auto tranny is better from a roll.
like I said, a few mph in trap difference and that's what you get. Thanks for everyone's input!
like I said, a few mph in trap difference and that's what you get. Thanks for everyone's input!
xXxRocker5150
07-10-2005, 10:33 PM
wow, well all I can say is that Type-s has never lied in the past, and I really don't see why he'd try and pull a burntrice. I think he's a credible source, and luck was in his favor when he raced the vette.
TypeS
07-10-2005, 10:58 PM
Auto trannies aren't better than manuals in the straight line, unless
A, you don't know how to drive
or B, you're talking about a race from a dig. I'm not exactly sure why you're talking about stall converters since we're talking about a race from a roll.
I don't know about gear ratios in the Vette, but if 4th is overdrive, I'm guessing it probably redlines 40 in first, 80 in second and 120 in third.
If we're both going 80 and the guy floors it, he will be at the bottom of third gear. If were going 70 - 80, it's very unlikely that the car will downshift itself to 2nd for just 5 mph. Considering the car makes the most power at 5600 rpms, he would be out of powerband.
When you have a 6 speed manual tranny, it's A LOT easier to be where you want and need to be than in the 4 speed auto. Like I said, it would probably look different from a dig, or against a different Vette, but the guy wasn't just "toying around" He only probably traps 3-4 mph more than me. There's not much room for toying around.
A, you don't know how to drive
or B, you're talking about a race from a dig. I'm not exactly sure why you're talking about stall converters since we're talking about a race from a roll.
I don't know about gear ratios in the Vette, but if 4th is overdrive, I'm guessing it probably redlines 40 in first, 80 in second and 120 in third.
If we're both going 80 and the guy floors it, he will be at the bottom of third gear. If were going 70 - 80, it's very unlikely that the car will downshift itself to 2nd for just 5 mph. Considering the car makes the most power at 5600 rpms, he would be out of powerband.
When you have a 6 speed manual tranny, it's A LOT easier to be where you want and need to be than in the 4 speed auto. Like I said, it would probably look different from a dig, or against a different Vette, but the guy wasn't just "toying around" He only probably traps 3-4 mph more than me. There's not much room for toying around.
street_racer_00
07-11-2005, 12:40 AM
I don't know about gear ratios in the Vette, but if 4th is overdrive, I'm guessing it probably redlines 40 in first, 80 in second and 120 in third.
Not nessicarily...my car does 45 in 1st, 80 in 2nd, nearly 125 in 3rd, and 4th is useless....and my car is the furthest thing from a vette.
Not nessicarily...my car does 45 in 1st, 80 in 2nd, nearly 125 in 3rd, and 4th is useless....and my car is the furthest thing from a vette.
CassiesMan
07-11-2005, 02:21 PM
I've seen an automatic C5 get on it, and they aren't world beaters...I believe you, type S.
Its a known fact that there is no car in the world that can beat an LS1 powere car. Its true. Ask any Chevy owner, any REAL Chevy owner, an LS1 cannot be beat. Evar...:rofl:
I'm with Type S on this one. Good...semi kill, yeah, good semi kill.
Its a known fact that there is no car in the world that can beat an LS1 powere car. Its true. Ask any Chevy owner, any REAL Chevy owner, an LS1 cannot be beat. Evar...:rofl:
I'm with Type S on this one. Good...semi kill, yeah, good semi kill.
Habibus
07-11-2005, 04:49 PM
So your 3450 pound sedan with a 282 HP engine stayed with a 3246lb 350HP sports car that has better aerodynamics at higher speed? Yeah, I believe that.
TypeS
07-11-2005, 04:52 PM
Actually it's heavier than that son.
Some people forget to look at the times and trap speeds of both cars. Noone cares what you believe Habibus. And wtf does "blowed" mean?
Btw, most E39 540is were underrated at 282. They actually made between 260-270 at the wheels, not that it will make much difference.
http://members.roadfly.com/greco540/DSC00021.JPG
Some people forget to look at the times and trap speeds of both cars. Noone cares what you believe Habibus. And wtf does "blowed" mean?
Btw, most E39 540is were underrated at 282. They actually made between 260-270 at the wheels, not that it will make much difference.
http://members.roadfly.com/greco540/DSC00021.JPG
CassiesMan
07-12-2005, 12:10 AM
Again...no car with an LS1 can ever be beat. Evar. The only thing that can beat an LS1 is Jesus, and even then, its a drivers race.
2000LS1Z28
07-12-2005, 12:20 AM
From a roll, and against an automatic 97-00 vette, it is believeable that you kept up with him. Autos have a big time dead zone. Against a C5 with a 6 speed, and a capable driver, you'd lose by alot more then a car length though.
TypeS
07-12-2005, 08:57 AM
The only thing that can beat an LS1 is Jesus, and even then, its a drivers race.
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TypeS
07-12-2005, 09:00 AM
From a roll, and against an automatic 97-00 vette, it is believeable that you kept up with him. Autos have a big time dead zone. Against a C5 with a 6 speed, and a capable driver, you'd lose by alot more then a car length though.
Like I said, it was an auto. I'm not sure what year it was either, but it was a C5. I never said I wouldn't lose by more against a better driver with a 6 speed. I know my limits. But that's just what happened against an auto.
So the autos do have a deadzone? I knew it. No 4 speed auto can ALWAYS be within its powerband, unless you're talking about a REALLY high powered car.
Like I said, it was an auto. I'm not sure what year it was either, but it was a C5. I never said I wouldn't lose by more against a better driver with a 6 speed. I know my limits. But that's just what happened against an auto.
So the autos do have a deadzone? I knew it. No 4 speed auto can ALWAYS be within its powerband, unless you're talking about a REALLY high powered car.
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