Speeding ticket in Canada
Matt_Turner21
07-05-2005, 09:42 PM
Hey everyone, I recently got a speeding ticket and I was doing doing 86 in a 70. BUT, the cop messed up and wrote on the ticket I was "speeding 86 in a posted 90 zone" What can I do to avoid paying this ticket, considering it isn't written out properly? Is there anything? I am from Canada by the way. Thanks
Igovert500
07-06-2005, 03:24 AM
Well I don't know how the Canadian court systems work. So I can't offer many specifics. However I would suggest checking out other posts in this section about speeding tickets for some good advice. My advice is to always fight them. Here in the US, you are usually offered a lesser charge if you try and fight it. This way you have an opportunity to bargain it down at least.
I'd check out www.beatmyspeedingticket.com It has good advice. I don't know about hte book he sells, but the free advice is good advice.
Lastly, I really don't think the 90 error will help. Obviously it is a mistake, as (to my knowledge) there are no 90kmph speed zones in Canada? If there are, then argue that, but if there are not, then it is obviously a simple error which the judge will overlook.
I'd check out www.beatmyspeedingticket.com It has good advice. I don't know about hte book he sells, but the free advice is good advice.
Lastly, I really don't think the 90 error will help. Obviously it is a mistake, as (to my knowledge) there are no 90kmph speed zones in Canada? If there are, then argue that, but if there are not, then it is obviously a simple error which the judge will overlook.
Matt_Turner21
07-06-2005, 12:06 PM
There are 90km/h roads in Northern Ontario, and it was Northen Ontario where I got the ticket, but I was in a 70 when it happened. It is only a $55 fine, so is it best to just pay it? I don't want to pay it unless I absolutely have to. And if it makes any difference, I have a G1 (learner's permit), and I was driving with my mom as the lisenced driver.
Igovert500
07-08-2005, 12:30 AM
Well like I said, I don't know Canadian law, but here, if you get a speeding ticket, typically your insurance (or your mom's) will go up..and that is gonna cost you more than the $50. So you may want to look into arguing it. I dunno, I wish I knew more about hte Canadian system...
MagicRat
07-10-2005, 09:36 PM
The Canadian system is not much different than the American system.
In this case, if the judge truly believes the ticket is incorrect and says 90, not 70, then the ticket will be dismissed.
Most judges here are pretty reasonable in cases such as this, but if they belive the error is not clear and is your BS, they'll convict you. You could try fighting it in person, but its better to hire a a paralegal like POINTTS or EX-COPPER or a lawyer to represent you. Chances are the lawyer will call the crown attorney (The canadian version of a district attorney) and this ticket will be dismissed long before it goes to court.
Be warned, however, a couple of cops have made such errors ON PURPOSE, because some might be paid more for a court appearance than for regular patrol.
(A few parking ticket cops in Toronto (like Meter Maids) used to be notorious for this. )
Therefore, they are hoping that you will spot the obvious error and go to court so they can make more money.
This is very rare, but realistically this error on this ticket is so obvious and dopey, I find it hard that a professional cop would have done this by accident.
In this case, if the judge truly believes the ticket is incorrect and says 90, not 70, then the ticket will be dismissed.
Most judges here are pretty reasonable in cases such as this, but if they belive the error is not clear and is your BS, they'll convict you. You could try fighting it in person, but its better to hire a a paralegal like POINTTS or EX-COPPER or a lawyer to represent you. Chances are the lawyer will call the crown attorney (The canadian version of a district attorney) and this ticket will be dismissed long before it goes to court.
Be warned, however, a couple of cops have made such errors ON PURPOSE, because some might be paid more for a court appearance than for regular patrol.
(A few parking ticket cops in Toronto (like Meter Maids) used to be notorious for this. )
Therefore, they are hoping that you will spot the obvious error and go to court so they can make more money.
This is very rare, but realistically this error on this ticket is so obvious and dopey, I find it hard that a professional cop would have done this by accident.
Matt_Turner21
07-12-2005, 02:03 PM
It is an obvious mistake, there is no way that I can see that anyone could mistake the 90 for a 70.
One other question, I got the ticket near Nipigon in Northern Ontario, which is quite a long drive from where I live, do I have to drive back up there to fight it? Is there another way to fight it? Thanks
One other question, I got the ticket near Nipigon in Northern Ontario, which is quite a long drive from where I live, do I have to drive back up there to fight it? Is there another way to fight it? Thanks
Igovert500
07-12-2005, 03:57 PM
Generally you can plead not guilty via mail...but when it comes time to go to court, you will have to drive to their local courthouse.
Matt_Turner21
07-13-2005, 07:05 PM
My mom faxed a copy of the ticket to somewhere and they are considering dropping it sometime in the next 45 days. Thanks for the help
lamehonda
08-18-2005, 11:41 PM
Speeding on a learners permit. :)
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