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Good Headers?


riight112
04-22-2002, 04:49 PM
I have a 99 hatch and was looking into getting headers. Does anyone have any opinions on the Neuspeed N2 headers? DC? Comptech?? Which one is better: ceramic coating or not?

rendog24
04-22-2002, 06:49 PM
stainless steel rusts very quickly so go with the ceramic. i would have to say that i prefer dc headers.:D

RiceBurninVTEC
04-22-2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by rendog24
stainless steel rusts very quickly so go with the ceramic. i would have to say that i prefer dc headers.:D
umm.. stainless steel doesn't rust.. thats why its called stainless :P.. it will rust eventually but far after a ceramic coated mild steel one will.. its the whole concept behind the stainless body of the DMC, no rust! what you may have meant is that it will bronze when heat is applied, meaning it will turn a yellowish color.. but thats no rust! SS all the way :cool:

i'd recommend the HP racing Stainless Steel Chrome Plated 4-2-1 header.. according to import tuner it made a good amout of hp and torqe, and it only costs $175 from nopi.. the dc SS is nice too but a lil pricey..

riight112
04-23-2002, 02:39 AM
What's the point of having the ceramic coat anyway? Does anyone know about the Neuspeed N2 headers?

Vitinho
04-23-2002, 07:00 AM
Hi gang,

Ceramic coating creates a kind of heat shield between the inside of the headers and the outside. This will reduce the overall temperature inside your engine bay.

My opinion on this ?? Get the stainless steel and get also some thermal coat band.
Why ?? Stainless steel because the headers will last mmmuuuccchhhh longer then the others, then isolate the headers with Thermal coat band to reduce the heat inside the engine bay, and to increase the heat inside the headers (better flow).

Be happy :D!

b16b bomber
04-23-2002, 08:35 AM
go ceramic...cause stainless does rust

Stainless looks like shit in my friends accord and he only had the headers for a year

rendog24
04-23-2002, 12:03 PM
told ya. it might look all shiny and nice in the beginning, but over months it will begin to rust. call almost any shop that deals with headers and they will tell you to go for ceramic.of course its ur car so go with what you like best.:)

onesojourner
04-23-2002, 12:24 PM
guys ss will not rust. if you see rust on it its not ss prob crome. crome will rust.

RiceBurninVTEC
04-23-2002, 12:58 PM
told ya!! :p

rendog24
04-23-2002, 01:08 PM
well it seems that we have a difference in opinion. so who is right?

iLLuCiv99
04-23-2002, 01:11 PM
RiceBurninVTEC is tight. Its stainless steel man! Dont you have any stainless steel pots in your house? :rolleyes:

iLLuCiv99
04-23-2002, 01:12 PM
What we can do is have conduct an experiement. You buy yourself some dc ceramic 4-2-1 hearders for ur car and YOU buy ME some dc ss 4-2-1 headers, we'll see if mine rust or not :p

RiceBurninVTEC
04-23-2002, 01:20 PM
lol thanks for clearing that up :D

he can buy me some hp ss ones and he can buy the dc ceramics and we'll see :cool: he can also buy me a rear lower tie bar with the money i saved on buying the hp! :p

iLLuCiv99
04-23-2002, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by RiceBurninVTEC
lol thanks for clearing that up :D

he can buy me some hp ss ones and he can buy the dc ceramics and we'll see :cool: he can also buy me a rear lower tie bar with the money i saved on buying the hp! :p

Haha! You were the one that really cleared it up. I mean you said it so simply how could they still be unsure of it? :rolleyes:

Shit if he's buying you the rear lower tie bars, let him buy me a Greddy SP Catback :D

RiceBurninVTEC
04-23-2002, 01:32 PM
lol, well think about it.. if we set a budget of $350 and he bought himself the DC Ceramic 4-2-1 two piece header ($321.49) and he bought ME the HP Stainless Steel 4-2-1 two piece ($173.79) thats a difference of $147. the Cusco Lower Rear Tie bar from optauto.com is $86 :D so with the money he saved from buying my header he can use to buy me a rear lower tie bar with 61 bucks to spare! thats a set of Accel plug wires :cool:

soo.. i could have a DC ceramic 4-2-1 that will rust on me, or i can have a HP stainless 4-2-1, a cusco rear lower tie bar, and a set of accel plug wires for the same price!!

with his whopping $21 left after buying the DC header, he could buy a neato Recaro cell phone holder and maybe one spark plug..

the defense rests, your honor

:cool:

iLLuCiv99
04-23-2002, 01:35 PM
What about me? What do I get? :( lol

RiceBurninVTEC
04-23-2002, 01:40 PM
if he's buyin, whatever you want! :D

iLLuCiv99
04-23-2002, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by RiceBurninVTEC
if he's buyin, whatever you want! :D

Haha!

B16a2, aem cai, hp headers, greddy sp catback, ww w-type rear lip, 5-zigen inperio m-o5's, si front lip, CF hood, bomex mirrors, pioneer avx 7300dvd :D If theres anything else I'll think of it :D

RiceBurninVTEC
04-23-2002, 02:18 PM
haha, sounds nice! don't forget to build up the internals and boost that bish!!

my ideal: b18c1, Drag Gen 3 turbo kit, built interals (pistons, rods, rings, cams, valves etc) volk te-37s, cwest kit, bomex mirrors and wing, apex ws cat back, tein suspension, comptech sway bars/tie bars, full JDM ITR interior... mobile DVD system.. i dunno what else thats just off the top of my head :)

ric
04-23-2002, 05:44 PM
stainless will rust eventually but its gonna be a long long time. the car will probably be junk by then. stainless is more of a show oriented style of making a header.

ceramic will rust more easily then stainless because most ceramics headers are made with a mild steel then dipped in ceramic so when the ceramic peels off if it does they will rust much more easily.

ceramic does have the added benefit of redicing underhood temp's but its only in fractions at best and is not the soul purpose of the coating. the coating is meant to keep exhaust gases hotter which keeps them expanded and increases the exhaust gas velocity and promotes quiker evacuation and scanvanging of the cylinders assuming the primaries are the correct size and the primary/secondary or primary/collector junction is designed optimally for the specific flow that will be produced.

if you wanted your header to be ideal you would buy a stainless header and have it coated with a ceramic or heat resistent substance so you could have the best of both worlds.

igo4bmx
04-23-2002, 06:09 PM
surgical utensils are made out of stainless steel because it doesn't oxidize(rust)

and riceburnin... hp header comes in chrome... no SS (i've been looking)

bmc2213
05-21-2004, 12:41 PM
just rub isoprophly alchohol on your stainless headers and they wont get rusty looking. no they do not rust they do get brown due to the oil on your hands or dust getting on them and baking down.

GScivic7
05-21-2004, 04:07 PM
thank you for bringing back a 2 year old thread :rolleyes:

bmc2213
05-22-2004, 12:01 AM
yeh son its cool likt=e that

GScivic7
05-22-2004, 01:04 AM
alright e-thug

bmc2213
05-22-2004, 01:28 AM
lol
do youo have a sentra? an s er? how much are they not the newest but the first year of the spec V?

krstofer
05-22-2004, 09:17 AM
[QUOTE=riight112] Does anyone have any opinions on the Neuspeed N2 headers? DC? Comptech?? QUOTE]


The sad thing is, I read through the entire thread and his questions about the brands were never answered.

Krs

bmc2213
05-23-2004, 01:11 AM
haha i know kinda got off topic huh huh

vti
05-23-2004, 04:44 PM
i have ek9 header on my vti but have been offered used fujitsubo 1 quite cheap. will it be definate improvment ? and would dc jdm header be much improvement ?

bmc2213
05-24-2004, 12:21 AM
i wouldn't think so might depend on the condition and yes i hear good things about the dc jdm's but if they are all the same flow pattern ie 4into1 or 4-2-1 theyre shouldnt be much difference just the condition of the headers them selfs due to age and stresses put on them

vti
05-24-2004, 03:47 AM
im not bothered about how they look under the hood just performance. good thing with ek9 header is that also has stock heat shield.

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