250cc sport bike with fuel injection

I was wondering if one exists. If so what is it? The reason I ask is because I want a good beginner bike that has room to grow. I drive a Honda Civic, which should tell you that my motto is technology is the replacement for displacement. Fuel injection is technology (great for a turbo, hehe) Also since I drive a Civic, that is an almost dead giveaway that image is important, which is why I want a sport bike.

If there isn't a 250cc 4 stroke street bike with fuel injection, what would it take to get fuel injection on the Ninja 250R?

If there isn't a 250cc 4 stroke street bike with fuel injection, what would it take to get fuel injection on the Ninja 250R?


fuel injection is only relatively new to the bikes. i don't think the CBR250RR would be FI.

as for modifying a bike to take injectors, room is farely tight and most parts are moulded around others so making room will be harder than you think.

the best inline 4's are the CBR250RR, FZR250RR and ZX2R. all redline at 19000 and pump out the best power for a 250 except for 2 strokes

if you drive a civic your obviously not accustomed to speed go buy a goldwing it will still imbarass your civic in a quarter also the big bulky saddle bags are kinda like that big wing on the back of your car except the saddle bags actualy have a use they hold stuff!

Um my civic doesn't have a big ass wing. And big ass wings have a purpose, it's called downforce. Goldwings look like shit, IMO. Like i said in my first post, it's got to have a certain style.

If it is style you are looking for over function then I am not sure why you are even bothering looking at a 250. They are a great beginner bike for someone to learn on, but you seem like you are looking to make it look pretty moreso than actually ride it (Thats what I get from your posts anyway.)

I wouldn't really want to turbocharge a Ninja 250 (even if it was fuel injected.) That is an absolute waste of money. You would spend close to what the bike is worth to upgrade the performance and would still not have the adjustable suspension and probably the horsepower output of the average 600cc sportbike.

Oh, and I am not sure what your age or experience level is. I see you are pretty hung-up on your little civic too, and let me tell you THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES. If you start out with a bigger (comparable in technology) motor and add the same (comparable) modifications you will end up with a better performing vehicle. The same thing is going to apply to a motorcycle. The 600cc bikes are outperformed (on paper) but the 750cc bikes, the 1000cc bikes outperform them. Now with the motorcycles you can have a GREAT rider on a 500cc outperform an okay rider on a 1000cc bike, but that is because the operator of the vehicle is the deciding factor.

Oh, and if your intentions are strictly to "pose" the bike or go fast in a straight line (which I am guessing they are) then look at an older 600cc machine - if you think you can handle it.

Um my civic doesn't have a big ass wing. And big ass wings have a purpose, it's called downforce. Goldwings look like shit, IMO. Like i said in my first post, it's got to have a certain style.


So your saying the downforce of a big wing helps a front wheel drive front steered vehicle as ina civic how exactly? now if you had a nice big block chevelle and put the wing on it maybe the down force would help traction considering its a rear wheel drive car but! keep in mind that youd have to be going at an excessive speed to have the down force help so therefore its pointless just tub the chevelle throw on some traction bars and go eat some rice at the strip but since im getting offtopic here once again ill say WINGS AND POINTLESS AND USELESS!
buy a gold wing or you can come take my bike out for a ride ill put life insurrance on you and upgrade myself to a new cbr 600 rr hit me up if your intrested

Oh, yeah. You must be right. I almost forgot that the car is broken in the middle so that something that pushes on the back doesn't affect the front at all. They aren't as useful for frontwheel drive cars but they still add downforce. They just don't do it as efficiently as a rear wheel drive car. Now about that offer to borrow your bike.....actually nm I don't look that good in bandages.

ok buddy.. heres my :2cents:

goldwings look like ass... but if i were going to go cross country i would take on in a heartbeat...

wings on cars are completely pointless.. when/where are you going to need the downforce.. NEVER.. they are for looks.. and some look good, most dont...

and dont get a bike because u like how it looks.. get a bike for how it feels.. if your going to be zipzooming around on a bike... (as you said your in it for looks and you are more than likely going to be showing off speeding being stupid) then you want a bike that you can handle.. and one you can control... my , and most everyone here's, recomendation.. start off small.. then upgrade.. who cares what you look like.. so you are driving a little 250 sport bike... you will still beat cars from the stoplight.. and after you get the feel of a motorcycle and experience upgrade to a 600 or so... and then you will look "cool" and wont kill yourself trying..

unless you have a death with then just go out and waste your money on a liter bike or busa... make sure you write a will and get some life insurance..

again only my opinon.. good luck

:grinyes:

So, um, I'm gonna say that you have been pwn3d Aiden...

REAL riders don't give a CRAP what you ride... only fans of Uncle Ben's care... and who cares what they think or say? They won't last long enough to affect the gene pool anyway.

When it's all said and done... if you want to learn how to ride, take the MSF course, and invest in a 250 (STOCK)

I suppose i didn't specify why i want a 250 with fuel injection. I want it because you could upgrade it. I agree a 600RR would kill my ass at the third stoplight. Also i don't have a ton of money right now so I don't want to invest in a bike that I can't upgrade in the future. I took one of those riding courses already, so i've had some time on various styles of bikes. I am more comfortable on the Ninja 250R than on any of the other bikes. Also it is a sport bike and should out handle non sport bikes.

Since no one has said that any of the 250 sport bikes have fuel injection, I'm assuming that there isn't one.

Aiden, I believe your actually thinking this through in an intelligent way. I don't understand why some people would rather try and get under your skin when your simply asking for some input. Just don't let em get to you. Starting off with too much of a bike can be dangerous for some people. If you feel you may get bored of the 250, perhaps you should check into some of the 400cc bikes. It would be a good blend, only with a bit of intimidation at high rpms at the beginning, but would be comfortable after you've had some experience.

And do remember what o|||||||o said, displacement isn't replaceable. But it doesn't always mean bigger is better especially in your case since you have no experience riding. Patience is a virtue, and good luck on your decision!

Aiden, there aren't any, and even though I like that you want to *eventually* upgrade the 250... it isn't worth it. You will get PLENTY of $$$ back out of selling the 250, though, since there is ALWAYS someone else looking to learn how to ride.

if you want the image of a sport bike, don't even consider the 250r. It will just disappoint you. A buddy of mine tried to start on one of those and traded it 4 months later for a 600. 600 is the way to go!

i think if you're either too afraid or too unskilled to go to a 600 get something that will last. you're tight on cash so you might not have the money to get a new bike if you get bored of your current one. kurtdg19 gave some good advice, get a 400cc. it'll last longer plus, you could upgrade it later. some upgrades you could to are:intake/exhaust, bore out the cylenders, get a stroker kit, suspension, tires, brakes, just remember that when you increase your cyclender displacement you need to lower the compression or you'll blow your bike to hell.

Or..better yet...drive your lil civic so you dont go to fast and hurt yourself and leave the bikes to us

i think if you're either too afraid or too unskilled to go to a 600 get something that will last. you're tight on cash so you might not have the money to get a new bike if you get bored of your current one. kurtdg19 gave some good advice, get a 400cc. it'll last longer plus, you could upgrade it later. some upgrades you could to are:intake/exhaust, bore out the cylenders, get a stroker kit, suspension, tires, brakes, just remember that when you increase your cyclender displacement you need to lower the compression or you'll blow your bike to hell.
400s are EXTREMELY uncommon in the States, which is where I thought Aiden was from... But I could be mistaken. Either way, I'm glad he wants to start on a 250, but after a few seasons, I can guarantee that he could sell it and get a good bit of cash back out of the deal... cash enough to put down on a bigger bike.



Aces... tread carefully. Aiden may be jaded about downforce and the like, but let's encourage him to do a bit more research and become better versed in vehicular technology rather than poking fun and making him more likely to spout the same "info" over again...

Yes Mother...j/k

if you want the image of a sport bike, don't even consider the 250r. It will just disappoint you. 600 is the way to go!


not sure if its the same for you Yanks but down here 250's cost more than a 600, are in better condition and most damage is minor. tools on 600's have a tendancy to stuff up and do major damage.

better off to learn on whats comfortable and easy to manage. think about your "size" later once you know what to do with it.

if you start on a 250 you can always upgrade it later.

i'm 6'4 and started on a 250. uncomfortable for awhile but i could still beat most cars on the road

aces, we can see the humour but maybe others can't.

:evillol: will try to keep the sarcasm in cheek

aces u got told :evillol: :lol2: ... ehhh.. maybe we should lighten up :sly:

but then people that have no lives (i.e. ME) wouldnt have anything to do

woot lets go live shopping sometime maybe we can pick out a couple good ones!

heck ya.... ill go... maybe i can get one where i have all the women/money i want.... ;)

:evillol: will try to keep the sarcasm in cheek
doesn't bother me.

i like to play :naughty:

especially with goats. oops wrong forum again.

i call the lil punk//gothy girl :naughty:


you can have the goat :icon16:

So now I'm your MOM? Um, ew... :p No kids, here... kids means less toys for meeeeeeeeeeeee. Toys > kids ALL DAY LONG.






Did I mention that I got a JOB today?

doesn't bother me.

i like to play :naughty:

especially with goats. oops wrong forum again.

got it on tape or should I check napster again? damn, I'm missing my daily dose, otherwise what's the point of internet.

Did I mention that I got a JOB today?

is it role play, like pyscho substitute teacher?

waaaa.....

hmm psyco subsitute hope ya have fun with that

Oh, yeah. You must be right. I almost forgot that the car is broken in the middle so that something that pushes on the back doesn't affect the front at all. They aren't as useful for frontwheel drive cars but they still add downforce. They just don't do it as efficiently as a rear wheel drive car. Now about that offer to borrow your bike.....actually nm I don't look that good in bandages.


I just noticed this That big wing that pushes on the back actualy pushes down am i correct whitch causes a lever affect using the back wheels as the pivot point whitch actualy reduces traction on a front wheel drive car...meaning the wing does have a point...help you lose control...

Saturn,

You got a job?

I gotta see a paycheck to believe that one! When you get a paycheck you come see me! Then we'll let you call it a job! :p

doesn't bother me.

i like to play

especially with goats. oops wrong forum again.

GOATS!!!! WOOHOOOOOO

haha.. thats dirty ;)



Oh, yeah. You must be right. I almost forgot that the car is broken in the middle so that something that pushes on the back doesn't affect the front at all. They aren't as useful for frontwheel drive cars but they still add downforce. They just don't do it as efficiently as a rear wheel drive car. Now about that offer to borrow your bike.....actually nm I don't look that good in bandages.
I just noticed this That big wing that pushes on the back actualy pushes down am i correct whitch causes a lever affect using the back wheels as the pivot point whitch actualy reduces traction on a front wheel drive car...meaning the wing does have a point...help you lose control...

ya the wing thing makes almost no sense but thats also what the front body kit is for.. create front downforce... but the wing takes that away so then again its all for looks.. f'n posers


and tangie i aint goin to dis on u getting a job... GIT-R-DUN... what you doin?..

if you want the image of a sport bike, don't even consider the 250r. It will just disappoint you. A buddy of mine tried to start on one of those and traded it 4 months later for a 600. 600 is the way to go!

What you just said is the mistake that most younger people make when getting their first bike, and egging aiden on to buy a 600cc bike when he only has minimal experience is reckless and not cool. Most people think they need a really fast bike just because they can handle a little gz250. Stick with the 250 for like 8months to a year, you'll be surprised at how much more control you'll have over your next bike. And what the others said is true, a 250 will smoke almost ANY car on the quarter ^^, my Ninja 250R was my first bike ( and i still own it, along side my 600RR), and when i take it out to ride, i still pwn the integras and all the civics with no problem, i rarely ever even get to 3 gear before they give up, because all they see are my taillights. I'm telling you, for safety, health, and common sense, stick with a 250 at first, you'll be happy you did.

P.S. One issue noone has addressed yet is that most/all people drop their bikes at one time or another. Would you rather drop a cheap 250? or a 9,000$ 600cc bike? If you haven't laid one down yet, then you will...And just because you're not on it doesn't mean you can't knock it down.

Just head the others words please and stick with a 250, its a great bike...Also, if you're that worried about not looking sporty, you can always cruise with your feet on the back pegs, it gives you a different riding style and appearance, instead of sitting straight up, if thats what you're worried about. I hope this helps. Don't become a motorcycle statistic.

if you're that worried about not looking sporty, you can always cruise with your feet on the back pegs, it gives you a different riding style and appearance, instead of sitting straight up, if thats what you're worried about. I hope this helps. Don't become a motorcycle statistic.

huh?! that's pretty reckless. unless you're planning to pull a stand-up wheelie, which also raises concern on the street, it'd make no sense what so ever.

Do it Do it Do it!

huh?! that's pretty reckless. unless you're planning to pull a stand-up wheelie, which also raises concern on the street, it'd make no sense what so ever.

its not reckless, it doesn't shift ur weight much at all and its great for highway cruising so you can lay down on the bike while bike handles similarly but not the same.

and no offnese, but you guys criticize stuff too much, unless you say it, you diss it = /. this forum used to be alot friendlier...

its not reckless, it doesn't shift ur weight much at all and its great for highway cruising so you can lay down on the bike while bike handles similarly but not the same.

and no offnese, but you guys criticize stuff too much, unless you say it, you diss it = /. this forum used to be alot friendlier...

I don't see where people are dissin over here... lol, but anyway, your advise was great, but that part made no sense at all, especially since you're passing it to a new rider who probably already had his hands full with learning how to ride, etc.

When you're basically crouching down on the bike, it greatly affects how the bike handles, it locks up the wrist, and you won't be able to manuever it as quickly you would sitting up. It makes sense in racing, but not on the street. Now lets say in a freeway, you're in full crouching position because of the wind, it only takes a 2/10 of a second to get up as you're manuevering the bike, you can also aide the lean by using the pegs, knee, hips, and tank, because both of your feet are where they should be. In traffic, it's pretty common that someone cuts you off, it's more dangerous when it happens when you're doing 80 mph on freeway. So you need all the manuevering skills as you got, as well stopping as fast as possible or swerving.

Now imagine doing all this, still learning how to control the bike, with both of you feet on the backpegs, knees barely grabbing on the tank and wrists fully locked up. And you're not sure whether you're sitting or lying on the bike. And you got no access to shifter or back brake.

When shit happens, you'd have less time and advantage to react.

yeah.. dont say that to people.. i tried it once.. VERY uncomfortable and its scary because you are lifting your center of gravity.. and feel like you have no control.. i had to do it when my peg bracket broke... scarry

To most who have replied. When you judge someone or something, you don't define "them'-"it', you only define yourself as someone who needs to judge. I have seen a turbocharged 250[ crazy fast ],$$ though[wiseco pistons, spacer to reduce comp ratio AND retard the timing. Heat is your enemy but it can be done[ even on an air cooled ]. Don't get hung up on F.I. ALSO, the best way to save your a!s is get a cheap dirt or dual[ as wellas your streetbike] and put some hours in on all terrains. Will do wonders for your confidence. When streetriding, assume that you are a ghost and invisible to all cars.ALL CARS. The new and recent 600's will corrupt you[ power corrupts ]. These are 10-11 second[1/4 mile] machines and will leave a 1988 750 ninja at the crosswalk. Try CBR400rr, Zx4, "Best upgradeable< Yamaha fzr400!!!> Can be easily modified to 80 hp up to 92hp"!!! from stock 60 horse without forced induction,[surf the web and you'll find it]. CBR 250 RR is decent first bike[ awesome handling ]. Save your life and invest 8-900 bucks and flirt with the dirt, then resell. Good luck.

back to the weird seat position topic,

i used to ride with my shins resting on the rear footrests. takes the load of your ass on long rides. when on a 250 you need to do stuff to move around.

i didn't think i "dissed" anyone other than the guy who said not to waste your time with a 250. sorry if i did.

And big ass wings have a purpose, it's called downforce.

Come on, man...you know what he was talking about. Shit like this:

http://www.ricecop.com/rcop_pics/000209-01.jpg

Unless your car is FAST ENOUGH to actually NEED the added downforce, you don't HAVE a purpose for a wing like that!

Example of a car that actually CAN use the downforce...

http://rbmotoring.com/albums/Nismo-400R/aab.sized.jpg

Now THAT car can use the downforce...

http://rbmotoring.com/albums/Nismo-400R/aaa.sized.jpg

mmm...Nismo 400R...yummy...

lol back to the downforce.. haha.. and YES that car is definateally using the rear wing.. those car's are so pimp...

Yes Mother...j/k
if you drive a civic your obviously not accustomed to speed go buy a goldwing it will still imbarass your civic in a quarter also the big bulky saddle bags are kinda like that big wing on the back of your car except the saddle bags actualy have a use they hold stuff!
grow up you fucking asshole..... :loser: ...all the dude said was that he likes a car that uses technology to make it perform better....and i think you're in no position to randomly flame people when you only have 100 posts....i don't have much more but i would give the dude advice instead of ripping on him over the internet.... :lol:

would you like me to give examples of all his stupidity? this guy is one of the peopel that give everyone else a bad name he gives people with imports a bad name and hed give bike riders a bad name we dont need any more statistics re read all the posts then tell me who you should be flameing so shut up untill you actualy know what your talking about thanks-Brian

I drive a Honda Civic, which should tell you that my motto is technology is the replacement for displacement(There is NO replacement for DISPLACEMENT) . Fuel injection is technology (great for a turbo, hehe)(turbo charged bike thats all a squid needs) Also since I drive a Civic, that is an almost dead giveaway that image is important(that way he can pick up the 15 year old freshmen girls and attempt unsuccessfully to deflower them) , which is why I want a sport bike.


big ass wings have a purpose, it's called downforce(Does NOTHING to a front wheel drive less you put it on the hood try that for your "style") . Goldwings look like shit(thats a flame) , IMO. Like i said in my first post, it's got to have a certain style(or else the 15 year old freshmen girls wont like me) .

They aren't as useful for frontwheel drive cars but they still add downforce(no...they dont they actualy hurt you on a frontwheel drive) . They just don't do it as efficiently as a rear wheel drive car(must not add that much how many camaros and vettes firebirds mustangs etc you see at a drag strip with a wing the size of a 10 year old child) .

suppose i didn't specify why i want a 250 with fuel injection. I want it because you could upgrade it{why why why that is just stupidity you can buy a 600 for less then a 250! upgrade bigger motor come on!)

grow up you fucking asshole (FAMILY SITE censor that)..... :loser: ...all the dude said was that he likes a car that uses technology to make it perform better....and i think you're in no position to randomly flame people when you only have 100 posts(and he has 15)....i don't have much more but i would give the dude advice instead of ripping on him over the internet(he doesnt want advice he wants to be stupid).... :lol:

read the above ( )

alright guys my bad....*bows* my apoligies... i just read the responses to the title.... now i look like a dumbass.... won't happen again... :)

kudos for the apology.

you'll get used to Aces sense of humor.

ps what's wrong with 15yr old freshman girls?

i say get one while you can and train her right. saves a messy divorce when you need to upgrade later in life :icon16:

aiden my advice is to get a 250...it'll keep your ass out of trouble and you can buy one for cheap so if you do get bored with it you can just get rid of it without suffering major money loss....i started out with a kawasaki 250R and it was fast as shit compared to what i was used to....then i upgraded to an old CBR 600 F2 and THAT BIKE was scary fast...... after TWO YEARS of riding it i felt i was ready for a quicker bike.... now i traded in my 96 ZX-6 for an 1997 CBR 600 F3.....because honduhs are da best...hehe....i think i like hondas better because of their ridablility (sp?) and styling...... but hey if you want to start out with a 600 it's your skin on the pavement not mine....:)

aint nothing wrong with 15 year old girls long as your about 17-18 but i was refering to aiden as a petifile collage student tryn to deflower poor inocent 15 yo's

in the words of Stiffmeister (American Pie/Wedding):

*#$&@ (Kitty) is still *#$&@ (Kitty).

Not that I condone sleeping with 80 year old grannys.

"Git em before the hair does!!"- My friends have said this several times....i am ashamed to have heard this from them...hehe

ahhh you guys are naughty this is definatly gonna get closed....i got one though

If the grass isnt growing flip her over and play in the mudd

oooooh bad.

should i mention my wife is 8 years my junior. can't help who you fall inlove with.

trying desparately to lift this thread out of the sewer

so Blayne... you got married at 22?

do the math guys.... I think we found our resident pedophile. :naughty:




:useless:

ok fine

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/171274uglydress_1834_703105.jpg

ain't she hot. and to think our daddies are the same. whooda thunk it huh

I'm sure with two bottles of vodka, it wouldn't have mattered to you.

Hmmm...married at 22...she's 8 yrs younger...hmmm...22 - 8 = 13. You being 22 married a 13 year old?........

yep. i married a 13 year old. down here the rules state that you may marry anyone (or thing) as long as he/she is able to stand on two legs for 2 min without mechnical assistance.

my brother married his dream goat last year after months of training.

lol...that's hillarious, man...