girls...

I don't know, I'm always too preoccupied when it comes to me actually having a clear shot, lol. Anyways, this time I've become good friends with this nice girl I know, shes funny, pretty, et cetera. Anyways, I've had a crush on her for a while, I think she probably wouldn't be surprised by this, but she doesn't really mind that I do. We have really similar personalities, and we like hanging out together. I have pondered asking her out before, but wimped out at the last second. Now I've just waited too damn long, and even though the time is coming around again where it would be an appropriate moment to ask her out, she is now dating someone else. Whatever. We text back and forth a lot, and I haven't had a chance to see her for a few days, so I sent her a text that said "ok... I have to tell you what I really think about you. I wish we could hang out before I leave though because I really don't want to do it over a text message..." The leaving I refer to is that i am going on a road trip starting this friday going through july 3rd.

So what do you think, am I fucked?

Oh, and no making fun of the texting, it's not cause I'm a pussy, it's just what us 2 do.

Thats why when you get the chance GO for it or somebody else will! I've had friend girls who tell me that they would date this guy but he won't ask me out.
It won't hurt to ask. Who knows....maybe she felt the same at some point.

if she states this..."i love you...but i am not in love with you.." then your really fucked. Oh and there is nothing wrong with textng.

Yeah, well the reason I didn't ask her out is that I have (had) self confidence issues. Mind you, not self esteem issues, its just that sometimes my confidence will waver from very high to moderately low and back again... lol right now I'm on a high point so we'll see how this goes.

Thats the best time to do it. When the possible rejection hurts the least. I say possible cause she could only say yes or no. There is no line in between.
Look on the brighter side also. If she says no, yall could still be friends.

Thats the best time to do it. When the possible rejection hurts the least. I say possible cause she could only say yes or no. There is no line in between.
Look on the brighter side also. If she says no, yall could still be friends.

lol yeah... with a whole damn lot of luck i'll be enough to make her break up with her boytoy. :lol2: Wish me luck friend, I'm goin' in. *mission impossible theme*

Texting = pussy. :icon16:

The question is: is staying friends worth never knowing if she is attracted to you?

Testing = pussy. :icon16:

The question is: is staying friends worth never knowing if she is attracted to you?

well, I already mentioned to her in passing once that I wouldn't mind dating "someone like you", and she kind of didn't even realize what I had just said. She really just took it right in stride like normal conversation. So I guess that's a good sign. She knows that I think she's pretty cool.

dum..dum.dum.....dum..dum..dum, damn it's hard to text a theme song. Give it a shot, she says yes, or she says no, at least you save the angst you showing.

I've been in this situation before. In fact I'm in it again... Anyway the best bet is to just ask. Get yourself an answer or YOU WILL WRECK YOUR BRAIN. You need a yes or no. I've been beating around the bush for half a year already :rolleyes: and it's been fucking driving me nuts.

curiousity will drive you insane. if you try to think "what if" yourself, then you will go crazy thinking of all the possibilities.

as MBTN said, asking is the best way. it's quick, simple, and get's results, and you won't drive yourself insane wondering in the mean-time.

i know from experience. i used to have total self-confidence issues when i was a bit younger, and even talking to girls would scare me senseless, let alone asking them out.

now i've changed all that. i think my whole life i've been searching for who i am, and in the past year, i've finally found it. now i'm out-going, very confident in who i am, and i'm not afraid to tell girls what i think of them. if they don't feel the same well, well then i'm SOL and it's no sweat off our backs. at least i tried and found out for sure instead of chickening out and forever wondering what she might've been thinking.

a good example: i worked as a summer camp counsellor 2 summers ago. during training, all the counsellors from the different camps would be trained together. we'd do all sorts of fun activities together, and pretty much the training was just a week of having fun so you'd know how to do it with the kids. anyways, there was another counsellor, her name was Kristina. she was real cute, we started chatting, and found out we had alot in common. well we started being pretty clingy at the training, always in each others groups or choosing each other to do a project with etc. but back then i was still shy and insecure, so as much as i liked her, i never said a damn thing to her about it.

so she goes off to university, and comes home last summer. we talk for the first time since the summer camp, and i find out she felt the EXACT SAME way about me as i did about her. only SHE was also very shy, and also didn't say anything to me about it.

so our shyness, silence, and insecurity made it so that a good relationship that COULD have happened, never did.

so i say take the chance whenever you've got it. rejection isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. as cheesy as it may be, the line "plenty more fish in the sea" ALWAYS holds true. good luck bro.

I agree with what everyone else has said, just tell her, cowboy the fuck up.


I also had to reply because I cant pass up a chance to post a picture of richard simmons and wayne bradey cuddling, text messages = http://a.abc.com/primetime/whoselineisitanyway/images/gallery/wayne_simmons.jpg

you bastard... lol

yeah... what they said. I had the same thing as suislide with a hot chick at school once. She always switched seats to sit next to me, picked me for projects, picked me for for teams when we played kings... I was STILL too scared to talk to her. When I finally did ask her out it was one day late. some other bastard asked her out the day before. Fuck life! haha... nah... but tell her that you hope her boyfriend is a jerk, that way you can finally get the chance to rescue her, and be her prince charming. If that doesnt work I dont know what will.... hahaha (do you sense the sarcasm?)... its not really too bad of an idea though. I say go for it tiger.

Fuck. I saw her tonight, and she didn't seem at all eeked out by what I texted her, and all was good, except I never got a single moment alone with her. On top of that, she brought her good friend that doesn't seem to like that I'm friends with her... Gah. So I'm leaving on friday, I guess I will call her when I get back or something and try to set things up.

Man.

totally. go for it and good luck!!! :bigthumb:

totally. go for it and good luck!!! :bigthumb:

*edit* i totally posted that before i saw your comment.*/edit*

so that sucks that you didnt get your big shot, but definitely see how things go when you get back from your trip. whenever i become really good friends with a guy, i'm hesitant to make it anymore than a friendship. then i realize, why not? if it works, wonderful. if not, it was fun while it lasted (the friendship and/or the relationship) and there's a chance you can still be friends afterwards. basically, if it's meant to be, it will be. and if it's not then at least you have no regrets (hopefully!).

again -- good luck!

Do it BEFORE the trip. If you don't it will be on your mind the entire time and you won't be able to enjoy yourself. If she says yes you'll something to comeback to. If she says no, it'll you both time apart for a while so things won't be as strange when you come back. Do it or you may lose your chance.

Thanks. Ironically enough, her friendship is worth not knowing whether or not it ever would have worked. But what the hell. Like I said, I think she knows that I have a crush on her, but because I'm really careful to mantain non-creepy boundaries, she doesn't really mind lol. So yeah we probably can remain friends if she says no, at least I hope so.

It's worth not knowing? It will still drive you mad. There are plenty of other girls to be friends with in life. If she says no and "wants to be friends" it's gonna drive you nuts. Last time a chick told me she wanted to be friends I said I couldn't be just friends and had to cut it off completely with her. That worked for about one year and then she started talking to me again. She's back... It's been driving me nuts!!!

Take it from an older, wiser buck in the woods~~~~

U young angst-ridden fawns completely forget the simple truth.

Allow the antlered one to wisen you up.

When a doe is dating, that does NOT mean she foregoes , or isn't still amenable to another buck's interest in her. She looks, she measures, seeks a dominant buck to offer her attentions to.

And if ya can't understand that, you are doomed to sit around and do your "woe is me, for not asking, because she is seeing someone".

Rub the velvet off your antlers. Sheesh.
:werd:

Take it from an older, wiser buck in the woods~~~~

U young angst-ridden fawns completely forget the simple truth.

Allow the antlered one to wisen you up.

When a doe is dating, that does NOT mean she foregoes , or isn't still amenable to another buck's interest in her. She looks, she measures, seeks a dominant buck to offer her attentions to.

And if ya can't understand that, you are doomed to sit around and do your "woe is me, for not asking, because she is seeing someone".

Rub the velvet off your antlers. Sheesh.
:werd:


Well put. You can't know if you don't ask.

Well, fred, they either don't understand, or more likely haven't learned it yet. It takes balls to learn.

Yeah, but I remember, and I'm sure you do, that feeling you got when you asked out somebody you liked, scared and nervous and excited at the same time. Once you do it, it gets easier.

I loved the "rub the velvet off your antlers" comment, BTW. :D

Ha. I had no problem asking this girl for her number right in front of her boyfriend one time. She kinda paused and I looked at her like "well?" She gave me her number. Then she dumped him a few weeks later. :)

That's how it done, MBTN!!!!!!!!!!!!! The fawns get pushed away, the bucks get the attention. Antlers gets more attention than a fawn, to continue the allegory.

Someday the fawns will grow their own antlers, but until then, they need to realize that there are bucks who go at their doe [ and to stop this BS whining about not being buck enough to see if they have a pair], whether the doe will accept them or not.

This 10-pointer's experience is that the doe usually goes for the buck.

And, yeah, fred, I agree, nervous, excited, a bit unsure back in my early days, I make no denials about it. But, [and maybe this just me], I put on antlers, went for it. Even if I may have been a fawn at the time. Got the doe's rejections a few times, never dwelled on it, new does in sight, kept the velvet off, served me in good stead.

There's does a-plenty in the forest.

ok yeah the doe fawn thing is real nice in all... butif you want her, go and get her, its really that simple...stop text messaging her your feelings, hang out with her, tell her how you feel...if shes not feeling it than fine, remain friends

if she is feelin you, take her...I dont wanna oversimplify things, but thats really what you gotta do

hey, Knife is right. That's how I got my girl that I dated for 8 months. She had a boyfriend who was a complete deuschbag and a chronic liar ...and I was sexy, fun, flirtatious, and happy. She chose me. hehe, THAT roommate didn't last long afterwards.

Just go for it man, if she says "but I dont wanna ruin our friendship that we got going" then fuck it, your in the friend zone FOREVER

stop text messaging her your feelings, hang out with her, tell her how you feel...if shes not feeling it than fine, remain friends


umm... did you read the first post? the reason we were texting in the first place was because we couldn't hang out. good one sherlock. :rolleyes: lol

Why couldn't you hang out?

She's super busy cause she volunteers for stuff

Take it from an older, wiser buck in the woods~~~~

U young angst-ridden fawns completely forget the simple truth.

Allow the antlered one to wisen you up.

When a doe is dating, that does NOT mean she foregoes , or isn't still amenable to another buck's interest in her. She looks, she measures, seeks a dominant buck to offer her attentions to.

And if ya can't understand that, you are doomed to sit around and do your "woe is me, for not asking, because she is seeing someone".

Rub the velvet off your antlers. Sheesh.
:werd:
:cheers:

So I just found out that my dog might have cancer... so I guess I'm not going on my roadtrip. :(

On the upside, I might get some hangtime with the girl...

TELL HER YOUR DOG HAS CANCER! Master stroke.

:1: Pity sex....oh its so good...

Just tell her how you feel,

#1 If she goes for it awesome

#2 if she says the "I love you but im not in love with you" your fucked for life

#3 if she hesitates tell her youll give her some space to think about it. if she dosent come to you afterwards refer to number 2.

She's super busy cause she volunteers for stuff
You should volunteer for the same things she does.

Do like sivic02 and go for the pity thing...
hurt yourself...mainly your wrist.......invite her over to take care of you......keep the chair......open.....as an example....

You should volunteer for the same things she does.

lol, I would, except I have a job and I also can't stand kids.

lol, I would, except I have a job and I also can't stand kids.

MOst women love guys who are good with kids. Believe me I know. I had to learn.

MOst women love guys who are good with kids. Believe me I know. I had to learn.

I never said I wasn't good with them... I just said I don't like them. Besides, its not like that matters at this stage in life anyways. She doesn't exactly already have kids she'll want me to help take care of :rolleyes:

I never said I wasn't good with them... I just said I don't like them. Besides, its not like that matters at this stage in life anyways. She doesn't exactly already have kids she'll want me to help take care of :rolleyes:
THANK GOD...




dooooood are you hittin it yet???

Your dog has cancer, you think it's wonderful that she volunteers for stuff (hint hint), and tell her you volunteer also. Those 3 things should convince her to go out with you.

Tell her you are a volunteer massuese (sp?... i think i got it).... and you volunteer for volunteers because they deserve it the most. Then proceed to give her a back rub with oil. and then flowers.

have it all set up, flowers, oil, yea dude. And cook her dinner. If you do that and can't get laid.... she must be a lesbian.

Tell her you are a volunteer massuese (sp?... i think i got it).... and you volunteer for volunteers because they deserve it the most. Then proceed to give her a back rub with oil. and then flowers.

have it all set up, flowers, oil, yea dude. And cook her dinner. If you do that and can't get laid.... she must be a lesbian.

rick is a genius. listen to him!!! :cheers:
except for the "must be a lesbian" part. she could always be bi...

She's a "queen", so move on.

I never said I wasn't good with them... I just said I don't like them. Besides, its not like that matters at this stage in life anyways. She doesn't exactly already have kids she'll want me to help take care of :rolleyes:Thats good. My ex wanted to work at a day care center. I was in torture for a long time. Until I learned to get over it.


Dammit KIDS HAVE TOO MUCH ENERGY.

Kids arent that bad, just duct tape the little bastards to the inside of a closet. Thats why I get along so well with my 3 little step sisters, one of which is a guy...i think...

so I sent her a text that said "ok... I have to tell you what I really think about you. I wish we could hang out before I leave though because I really don't want to do it over a text message..."

I didn't even read the thread - but you're fucked. This is something very stupid to say to a chick. Don't tell her "you like her". This shit instantly kills all sexual tension and mystery. You'll no longer be a challenge or interesting to her - she'll know wut ur intentions are and wut u're thinking. It kills attraction.

I hate that feeling, when you hate a girl and can't find the courage to do or say anything. It's like your paralysed any time she's around. I know that feeling.

Cause you are unsure of your self, you run around like an angst-ridden jack. Like, Ride implies, grab your pair, stand up.

Thats RIGHT! Stand up and say KILL WHITEY!

okay....

Seriously, you have to get through the insecurity. Smile, say Hi, it not hard.

Nod to her when you see her, let her know that you see her.

Seriously, you have to get through the insecurity. Smile, say Hi, it not hard.

Nod to her when you see her, let her know that you see her.

:lol2:

you underestimate me.