What size v8?

Ok, ive been doing alot of catching up on forums. Ive also been contemplating on investing on a bigger engine over trying to make my v6 faster.... But still.. not sure what to do.

If I stay with my v6 I want to get Headers, CAI or Ram Air, then supercharge it or something.... but then again my engine has 107k miles on it. What do you guys think?

But if I got with the v8 what kind should I go with? I think in the long run I am going for Best performance.. as most people do.. Any suggestions here?

you can buy an lt1/t-56 for pretty cheap and it will drop right in a fulfill all your needs.

Lt1s the way to go since you'll need to rebuild your V6 soon and are going to spend almost the same amount of money.

damn all that, i did the rebuild on a 3800, and its pretty damn fast, total rebuild with spray, forged internals nice but not fast enough. after u drop all the money in your car to make it handle a v8 its not smart to put a lt1 in it. maybe a 3rd gen but not a 4th. your car is 200hp bone stock to maybe 250 or 260. for as much as u pay for that swap all u are getting is 60 extra horses? hell u can get more than that spraying your car for 800 bucks complete nos set up, that can be added on to and so on. not practicle at all. now i myself am doing the ls1 swap now, well worth the money. after im done ill have over 300 hp for the fact that im building the ls1 before i drop it in, so if everything goes well before next years f body gathering ill be looking at a minimum of 600hp. for even 7 grand thats bad ass and worth the money, youll be paying about the same thing for a lt1 swap and you'll be lingering around 260hp. everyone in here has their pick when it comes to engines, some are die hard lt1 some ls1, even us 6 guys love what we have, but when it comes to gains for your dollar any person who builds engines will tell u the lt1 swap isnt the way to go. yes the lt1 will be cheaper but after u buy what u need to get it to run what a stock ls1 does then spend what u need to get it to run what im trying to run you'll be spending more money than i will.

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Whats the difference between the Ls1 and the Lt1? They are both 350 v8 5.7l right?

LT1 is from 93-97 and is 350ci. The LS1 is from 98-02 and is 346ci. Both 5.7L, both V8

If I were to put a Lt1 in my car how much would the estimated conversion be? (7k? just a guess.)

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I wish my maro looked like this..... :evillol:

http://www.projectcamaro.com/bishopfront.gif

lol....dont we all :grinyes:

now if your talking 7 big ones to do the swap then yes i agree that is too much for that just build your v6 and spray the pants off of it and push it to its absolute limits until it blows up and you have to do it all over again.

philly you say the v6 is 200 hp, well the lt1 is 275 hp not 260. and all you need to keep up with an ls1 stock is to get rid of the factory airbox and buy a muffler. WORD. take that from experience

im sure you can shop around and find a lt1/t56 for less that 7 grand. hell you can buy a damn 94 camaro z28 with 100,000 miles on it for 4-5K, and you aint even gotta do shit to it. take the money you get from selling you v6 and put it in the z28 and build your motor then, forged internals, heads cams lifters pistons pushers hoes pimps all that shit, aint no sprayed 6 gonna touch that.

the difference between the LT1 and the LS1 is kinda like the difference between the sailing ship enterprize and the nuclear powered aircraft carrier enterprize. they may both be the same animal, but the LS1 is light years ahead of the LT1 in regard to technology and design. There are many who disagree with me (Formula will probly pop up in three.... two.... one....) but i say the LS1 is a far better engine. Just my personal opinion. If you are gonna drop the dime, id say spend the extra cash and put an LS1 under your hood.

put an LS1 under your hood.
For $7K, I agree.

the LS1 is light years ahead of the LT1 in regard to technology and design.

i agree, and thank you chevrolet for not backstepping.

for 7K you can damn near buy an ls1 car

he's talking about doing a swap, after he pays for a new rear end,k memeber,engine, tranny, wire harness, and every other little odd and end like a new radiator, fuel pump da da da....hell hes almost over 7 grand. and yes if he was to buy a crate lt1 im sure he would get all 275hp but im sure hes talking used and i doubt youll find a used lt1 that still has 275 in here, hell he dont have 200hp in his v6 its more like 170 by now im sure. but like i said if hes gonna spend all that money on a swap for the hp to dollar its smarter to do the ls1 swap. who in their right mind will pay over 5 grand for a lt1 swap? at least in a 4th gen. and im sure he dosent want to sell his car and buy and buy a lt1 car not to down lt1 cars but he'll be doing better building his own lt1 from the bottom up instead of buying one that is used and most likely on its last leg. and bottom line i dont care what any of u say a mechanic who works on all camaros will tell u, they leak oil....yours may not.... but the rest of the worlds do. every now and then i get a lt1 guy to agree but most will be like mines dont, well u got a good one out of the batch, thats the first thing a truthful person who works on those cars will tell u, the ghost leak! the closer to 97,000 miles the more of the risk, it happens. the ls1 is the way to go.

and im sure he dosent want to sell his car and buy and buy a lt1 car not to down lt1 cars but he'll be doing better building his own lt1 from the bottom up instead of buying one that is used and most likely on its last leg.
^what he said

I dont think I would wanna sell my car, buy another car, then spend the money to buy a new engine. I rather buy an engine and swap it with mine .. .. BUT I am also not too sure what exactly I would have to do to for an enginge swap. Would it be more cost effective to buy a whole new car and engine for it, Or new engine for my car?

i agree with you on that philly about it being more cost efficient to do all the same shit but just drop an ls1 into it also. but i would suggest if your going to spend 7 grand, just get a new car and hook it up how you like it and it will be done right, if you catch a steal on the 350 of your choice-drop it in there.

and my lt1 did leak for a while but i had the crank hub seal replaced for almost nothing and no more leakyness. thats it. nothing much ghostly about that. no head gaskets leaking or anything major, and ive had 2 lt1's.

Get a 305 :evillol: .

get a 2.8 carburated

LOL!! Did they have carbed 2.8?

see someone like myself who redid the inside and the body of my car could never sell it, i would swap a engine before i trade it in, its got 2 much invested in it, and some people just like their car too much to part with it. dont get me wrong i would rock the piss out of a lt1 car, but for the money it cost's to get our cars ready for a swap u should really go bigger and better, hell drop a big block in that biatch!!lol. but really the money you'll be spending is alot for just 275, hell i want more than just 300, thats why the stock ls1 wont even see the inside of my car at all, it will get built on an engine stand and when its done ill drop it in. for that kind of money u gotta do it the right way first.

word to that.

what all is different between the z28s and the v6s anyway. is the suspension and k member and all that not the same? im not too informed on the 6ers.

pfft 2.5L Iron Duke I4 beotch.

word to that.

what all is different between the z28s and the v6s anyway. is the suspension and k member and all that not the same? im not too informed on the 6ers.
The Z28's faster....... :thumbsup:

Really though I believe the Z28 has much better suspension

yeah to swap a 8 in our cars you have to get a new k member, rear end, u wanna be able to handle the hp u really need to get a new crank shaft. our is supposed to be able to handle up to around 350 or a bit more hp, but u really need to get a v8 crank. u need to do a new intake because the lid wont work on our cars either unless u change the front end of the car..u need to change the motor mounts, (oh on the intake part i forgot doing a custom intake is the way i seen alot of people do) lets see u also need wire harness, radiator,u may also need to change the center console where the gear shift is at, i havent gotton to that part yet and i need to find out about that one, new exhaust our pipes are way smaller than the 8 so u need to get v8 stuff, the engine,tranny...of coarse, and i know there is a few more odds and ends im not remembering right now i just woke up but u get the picture. many say its a 10 grand job, if u have resorces or u are a great shopper u can get it done with 7 hell maybe a bit lower

get a vtec

please forgive me for butting in, being that i dont own a camaro, just a pickup, but i had to add me 2 cents. also i noticed that noone has posted on here in a couple days. how many of u have actually performed a 6 to 8 swap on a car as new as an LT1 or LS1 camaro? its not exactly like the old days where all the engines bolted in the same way. u cant even reach the spark plugs on 4th gen cars lol. if u got the money buying one with a v8 is definitely the way to go. the other thing is, if u dont know the difference between an LT1 and an LS1, maybe u should reconsider doing a swap like this yourself.

I would if I could. I want to be able to learn to tear down an engine and performing engine swaps. That would be nice to now how to do. My friend and I are going to look for an engine to buy and just start self teaching our selves. But other than that I am going to try to take some collage classes.

pfft 2.5L Iron Duke I4 beotch.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I like the name that has with em

"Yo man what joo got in that Maro?"
"IRON DUKE FOO, Watch OUT!"

I would if I could. I want to be able to learn to tear down an engine and performing engine swaps. That would be nice to now how to do. My friend and I are going to look for an engine to buy and just start self teaching our selves. But other than that I am going to try to take some collage classes.

That's the perfect route to go. That's basically what I did. Try looking on eBay for good engine deals, that's where I got mine. And when you start to tear the engine down, be sure to keep track of the bolts and small msc. items. I'm kind of worried right now that I might not be able to put her all back together. I didn't really keep track of anything I took off.

That's the perfect route to go. That's basically what I did. Try looking on eBay for good engine deals, that's where I got mine. And when you start to tear the engine down, be sure to keep track of the bolts and small msc. items. I'm kind of worried right now that I might not be able to put her all back together. I didn't really keep track of anything I took off.

So how did that work for you? Im not too sure if I want to just go out and buy an engine. If I do should I get one that works or doesnt work?

Also do you work on it when its on a pallete or on an engine lift?

damn all that, i did the rebuild on a 3800, and its pretty damn fast, total rebuild with spray, forged internals nice but not fast enough. after u drop all the money in your car to make it handle a v8 its not smart to put a lt1 in it. maybe a 3rd gen but not a 4th. your car is 200hp bone stock to maybe 250 or 260. for as much as u pay for that swap all u are getting is 60 extra horses? hell u can get more than that spraying your car for 800 bucks complete nos set up, that can be added on to and so on. not practicle at all. now i myself am doing the ls1 swap now, well worth the money. after im done ill have over 300 hp for the fact that im building the ls1 before i drop it in, so if everything goes well before next years f body gathering ill be looking at a minimum of 600hp. for even 7 grand thats bad ass and worth the money, youll be paying about the same thing for a lt1 swap and you'll be lingering around 260hp. everyone in here has their pick when it comes to engines, some are die hard lt1 some ls1, even us 6 guys love what we have, but when it comes to gains for your dollar any person who builds engines will tell u the lt1 swap isnt the way to go. yes the lt1 will be cheaper but after u buy what u need to get it to run what a stock ls1 does then spend what u need to get it to run what im trying to run you'll be spending more money than i will.

how much do you plan on putting into the ls1 to get a min of 600hp?

So how did that work for you? Im not too sure if I want to just go out and buy an engine. If I do should I get one that works or doesnt work?

Also do you work on it when its on a pallete or on an engine lift?

How did what work out for me? I'd recommend that you got one that works. It'll be an easier starting point for you, rather than having to do repairs on a broken engine.

As for the pallete or engine stand... Here's what I did. The guy I bought the engine from shipped it to me on a pallete. So from there, I took all the heavy accessories off. I stripped the engine to just the block with the oil pan on the bottom. Then, I went to Harbor Freight and got a $50 engine stand. And me and my friend lifted it up onto the stand. If we immediately put it up on the stand when the engine came in, then we would never have been able to lift it, since there was only two of us and that engine was heavy as crap.