Calling AF LONDON!

Anyone in/near London want to help out against a scammer? I've been waiting for quite awhile to get a juicy scam email, and now I have one. If this works the usual way, he'll ask for me to give either bank account information(not), or send money to release the winnings. I'll send him something, a heavy package that he'll have to pay tax on (similar to the "powerbook scam") to receive. If it works that way, anyone interested in taking some pics of the perp and having some fun? I'm open to suggestions also....

I received:

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LUCKYDAY E-MAIL LOTTERY
INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPT

FROM THE OFFICE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT
LUCKYDAY E-MAIL LOTTERY INTERNATIONAL
PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPT

WINNING NOTIFICATION / FINAL
NOTICE...CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

This is to inform you of the release of the E-MAIL LOTTERY
BALLOT INTERNATIONAL/ WORLD GAMING BOARD. Your name
attached to ticket number 219028657434 with Serial number
918735625 drew the lucky numbers of 21-70-81-82-99, which
consequently won the lottery in the 1st category.

You have therefore been approved for a lump sum payment of
1,000,000.00euros only, which is deposited with the United
Kingdom Clearing house in your favour as beneficiary and
covered with HIGH INSURANCE POLICY. It is important that you
keep your winning confidential to avoid people garnering
your information and subsequently making claim with your
winning paraphernalia information?s, lucky day lottery
international will decline payment if such irregularity
occurs.

All participants were selected through a computer ballot
system drawn from only Microsoft users from over 20,000.00
companies and 3,000,000.00 individual email addresses and
names from all over the world. To begin your lottery claim,
please contact our agent below that have been appointed for
the processing of your claim with your contact telephone
and fax number to begin the processing of your payment.

CONTACT NAME: ANDREW GORDON
CITY/ COUNTRY: LONDON, ENGLAND.
EMAIL: [email protected]

It is imperative that you contact your assigned payment
officer within two weeks of receipt of this missive via the
aforementioned details conveyed herein. After this date all
unclaimed funds will be included in subsequent promos.
Please note in order to avoid preventable delays and
Complications please remember to quote your reference
number and batch numbers in all correspondence.
Furthermore, should there be any change of address do
inform our agent as soon as possible.
Congratulations once more from our members of staff and
thank you for being part of our promotional programme.

Yours Sincerely,
Mr. Walker Smith
Vice President
Luckyday Lottery
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:rofl:

My response:

Dear Mr. Gordon:

I'm quite excited about winning the sweepstakes and am understandably anxious to claim my prize.

I was told in the email I received that I would have to contact you in
order to claim the prize, and that is precisely what I am doing.

Please mail my check for 1 million Euros to:

Mike Carlson
(work address)
Richmond, VA 23294
USA

My banker has assured me that he will have no problem whatsoever
converting from Euros to US Dollars.

There is no reason to use an expensive overnight service; the regular
post will be sufficient, but please be sure to insure the check as you
feel necessary.

Thank you very much for contacting me!

Sincerely,

Mike Carlson

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Just sent the above, will post again once/if a response is received.

This could be fun...... :thumbsup:

hehe, I'd LOVE to see that guy owned.

How do people actually fall for that shit?!

I honestly cannot wait to see what they do, and I would guess their is a hook they'll try to get you on to reel you in for something, hehe. Let us know what develops :lol:

It depends where they are and when the package's going to get there, but sure. I work across the road from that guy that got owned in the Powerbook scam, he's a local crook. So keep me updated ...

I'm not in London at the moment but i'll do it if it's not too far :D

There you go, crazyjay and Swoxy on a stakeout for AF :smokin:

I'm not in London at the moment but i'll do it if it's not too far :D



It depends where they are and when the package's going to get there, but sure. I work across the road from that guy that got owned in the Powerbook scam, he's a local crook. So keep me updated ...
There you go, crazyjay and Swoxy on a stakeout for AF :smokin:

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:thumbsup:

what powerbook scam?

what powerbook scam?

Do a search in this forum (I think it's in here) pretty good scam on a scammer.


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Update: Well, the scammer has bitten on my response:

VERIFICATION PROCESS/REQUIRED DETAILS
From: Andrew Gordon
Good day to you,
I am in receipt of your email and the contents therein. Congratulations
once more from the members of staff of lucky day lottery international.
This lottery was a conjoined effort of Microsoft international and the
United Nations under the auspices of lucky day international. This lottery
is aimed at promoting world peace and the use of internet across the
world. Participants were drawn randomly from the internet upon which a
raffle draw was conducted and seventeen lucky winners emerged
fortuitously. The seventeen lucky winners have been assigned a lump
payment of one million euro each.
To facilitate the swift procurement of your winning, you are to fill out
the attached form and return it within 24-72hrs.
This will enhance the verification and subsequent approval of your
payment. The deadline set for the collection of winning is ebbing ever so
close; hence you are to act accordingly to instruction stated herein. It
is imperative that you keep this winning confidential and surreptitious to
avoid any one other than yourself from laying claim to these monies. Lucky
day international reserves the right to decline payment/transfer if
irregularities occur.
This sweepstake lottery was organized in the UNITED KINGDOM under all
stated rules and regulations guiding the transfer of large sums of money.
To necessitate your participation in our annual lottery taking place in
August, you are to procure your winning within the stipulated time frame.
As it remains open to considerable doubt if the deadline set for the
collection of winning and subsequent participation in our annual lottery
promo will be moved further. Please note that this Verification process
usually takes between 24-72 hours, depending on how swiftly you fill out
and return the form. Upon completion of this Verification
Process/Screening, you would be contacted by us with further details on
when you shall be receiving your funds in your nominated bank account.

Please have your FUNDS RELEASE VERIFICATION FORM T11 sent in immediately
and await further contact from us. Note also that there is a maximum
allowable time by law, for which we can hold these funds here unclaimed.
Be informed that failure to receive your FUNDS RELEASE VERIFICATION FORM
T11 within 24-72 hours of receipt of this e-mail will result in your
payment being delayed or your funds returned to source. Also make sure
that you have a valid form of identification sent with the FUNDS RELEASE
VERIFICATION FORM T11. You should accompany the FUNDS RELEASE VERIFICATION
FORM T11 with either the information page of your International Passport,
Drivers License or your National ID. Your winning will be conveyed by the
method opted in the funds release verification form upon verification and
approval by the fiscal authority of the UNITED KINGDOM.
FUNDS RELEASE VERIFICATION FORM T11
FIRST NAME…………………………
LAST NAME………………………….
MARITAL STATUS…………………
AGE……………………………………
SEX……………………………………
COUNTRY……………………………
NATIONALITY………………………
OCCUPATION………………………
ADDRESS…………………………...
TELEPHONE NO……………………….
FAX NO………………………………
NEXT OF KIN………………………
INDICATE THE MODE OF PAYMENT PREFERABLE TO YOU FROM THE AFOREMENTIONED
OPTIONS BELOW;
1) BANK TRANSFER
2) HOME DELIVERY( CHEQUE )

Lucky day lottery international will convey your winning to you in the
mode preferable to you. Your winning has been endorsed in a cheque and
will be transferred to you upon receipt of your claim form and
finalization of all required modalities.
Congratulations once more and good luck.
Best wishes
Andrew Gordon
Claim officer.
TELEPHONE: +4470 4011 7428
FAX: 44-870-135-5097
WEB SITE: www.luckyday.nl
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Interesting that they include a website that actually (partially) works. Funny though, they said this is a UK lottery, but the website is in the Netherlands? Hmmmm. Didn't the UK also decide to keep pounds as their currency, rather than switch to Euros? Double Hmmm.....


Anyway, my response:

Mr Gordon, thank you for your prompt response; my information is
filled in on the form T-11 below. However, I have already supplied my
address to which to mail the check, and advised that I would prefer a
"cheque"; please send my check immediately to the listed address upon
receipt of this email. 1 million Euros is a large sum, and I would
like to begin my retirement as soon as possible.

I do not have the ability to fax internationally, so cannot send you a
copy of my passport at this time. I understand that you are concerned
about security and not letting anyone else falsify their identity to
claim MY prize; however be assured I have kept this to myself and no
one else knows about the details, so no such document will be
required.

This email appears to be machine generated, please respond manually so
that I may understand this is an actual offer and not a scam of any
sort.

Thank you for your prompt response, please advise when the cheque has
been mailed.

Sincerely,

Mike Carlson

Form T-11
> FIRST NAME………Michael…
> LAST NAME……....Carlson....
> MARITAL STATUS Single…………………
> AGE………………42……………………
> SEX…………………M…………………
> COUNTRY…………US…………………
> NATIONALITY………US………………
> OCCUPATION…Transportation……………………
> ADDRESS…(work address)…………...
> TELEPHONE NO…not needed…………………….
> FAX NO………none available………………………
> NEXT OF KIN…none……………………
> INDICATE THE MODE OF PAYMENT PREFERABLE TO YOU FROM THE AFOREMENTIONED
> OPTIONS BELOW;

> I prefer a CHEQUE as stated previously


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:lol2: I'm wondering when they'll ask me for some money.

=edit= LOL, this lottery started by Microsoft and THE U.N.!!. Yeah, sure ok fine.

Powerbook scam:


http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

Well, it didn't take them long (3 emails) to ask for money. I'm holding off my reply for a day or so, to see if they send me something else.

What I'm thinking is that I'll offer to send them a check via FedEx to the address listed. Swoxy and Jay, let me know if the address listed is close to where you are.

Of course the check's envelope will be weighted, and insured for a high amount so they will have to pay a lot of taxes. I may even send it COD (charge on delivery) if possible.

Anyway, here's their most recent:

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PRE-REQUISITE TO FUNDS TRANSFER
From: Andrew Gordon
Thank you for your response to our email. This reply confirms safe receipt
of your details.

With reference to our last email message to you, we are pleased to inform
you that your verification process on your payment file has been
successfully concluded and be informed that it has been given the all
clear. Find below the findings and the pre-requisite needed to facilitate
the immediate transfer of your funds by the mode indicated in your winning
verification form T11.

1) Verification on your payment file ascertained you as a winner of lucky
day lottery promo with batch/ref numbers
BATCH NO: PTP/31211214257/190888/2202
REF. NO: PTP/21449267220/255100//2202

2) That you are to settle the non-deductible NOTARIZATION fee of 950pounds
needed to ascertain the legality of your winning in court of competent
jurisdiction. Upon payment you will be issued anti-terrorism and anti-drug
certificates.
a) Anti Terrorist Certificate: 450 pounds
b) Anti Drug Certificate: 450pounds
c) Court clearance fee: 50 pounds.
Upon receipt of your payment details for the notarization of your winning
in a court of competent jurisdiction your winning will be conveyed by the
mode opted in your funds release verification form T11. Be informed that
the notarization fee cannot be deducted from your winning prize because
your winning was issued as a bank draft.

3) That on receipt of the charges paid by you, that the transfer of your
winning would be activated which will take three working days to arrive at
your nominated bank account from the date of receipt of your NOTARIZATION
charges. You are therefore advised to adhere to the recommendation of the
verification committee to necessitate the immediate procurement of your
winning.

The 950pounds you are required to pay is non-deductible, the notarization
of your winning in a court of competent jurisdiction goes to show that
your winning is not deployed for terrorism or drug peddling and that your
winning has been certified viable by the judicial arm of the UNITED
KINGDOM. The transfer of large sums of money without back up documentation
and presentation creates a red flag with government authorities world
over, hence in other to act in the best interest of the winners of our
lottery promo it has become imperative that all winners notarize their
winning in a court of competent jurisdiction. Please be informed that
lucky day international reserves the right to decline payment/transfer of
your winning if irregularities occur.
You are to issue the payment to;
NAME: John Peters
Address: DX 400 Chancery Lane London
Through western union money transfer and upon payment it is important that
you send me a copy of the payment details immediately to necessitate the
swift transfer of your funds by the method opted by you in the FUNDS
RELEASE VERIFICATION FORM T11.
Best wishes
Andrew Gordon
Claim officer.
TELEPHONE: + (009)4470 4011 7428
WEB SITE: www.luckyday.nl
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Any and all comments welcome!

They damn near call you a terrorist???????????? Hey, UK folks, ever heard of the anti-drug and anti-terrorist certificate?

Not to mention, that if you are a terrorist or drug lord, how the hell would they know?

"to ascertain the legality of your winning in court of competent
jurisdiction. Upon payment you will be issued anti-terrorism and anti-drug
certificates."

Uh huh. legality of winning what?

Hey, got an idea, ask them to just deduct the 950 Pounds from your check, tell them it seems easier that way for both parties? I'd love to see if they keep the bait going on ya after that.

This is fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl:

Hmmm, this is getting slightly strange. The address you have is 'DX 400 Chancery Lane London'. DX is a private postal system used mainly by the legal profession. What happens is your DX mail goes to a DX depot, of which are there are hundreds across the county. You then go pick up your DX mail from the DX depot every day, and if you want to send via DX you drop it off to the depot. Those in the legal profession list their DX addresses publicly, as it's a quicker and more reliable way for other legal personell to contact them. I did a search for that DX adress on Google and found it belongs to a firm called Matrix Chambers - www.matrixlaw.co.uk (http://www.matrixlaw.co.uk), and their chambers are located at Griffin Building, Gray’s Inn, London WC1R 5LN according to their website. On the top right of their site you'll see a drop down list with all of their employees in, and unsurprisingly, Andrew Gordon (the person who the email is signed from) is not there, neither is John Peters (the person who payment for the fake anti-drug and anti-terrorist checks are to be made out to). The phone number he provided you with is a UK forwarding number, the kind that mask a real phone number, and a Google search of it returned this page - http://axiusnews.com/scampost/letter.asp?ID=10895, detailing another Nigerian scam of a slightly different nature but with the same phone number. Google helps a lot! I called that number and the ringing tone was very strange, possible international. There was no answer. So we're presented with a strange situation. Is the scammer a laywer working at Matrix, using it's DX system to mask his real address? Is someone using Matrix's DX address as a front and stealing their mail? Many DX offices are insecure. Or is the whole Matrix thing a front in itself, and are they actually going to ask you to send more money to a different address. Who knows ...

HHHHMMMMMMMM, well, I think, swoxy what you found is definately a scam, as if we had any real doubt. I wonder if it a real place being ripped by the scammers who are using as a front [I think it's the case, as those two you "didn't" see as employees of the "firm]. Sounds like they set it up to really bait people in.

Heh heh, good info Swoxy, and thanks. Sounds like there is NO WAY they're legit (as if we ever really thought so :)). I imagine that the DX address might be able to be set up by anyone? It could be a Matrix employee, or perhaps Matrix has allowed the use of their address to a "professional colleague". In any event, doesn't matter who it is I guess (unless law enforcement is to be involved - anyone think they'd be interested?).

At this point, I think I'd just like to let them know I have to send a check (as don't trust wiring money, make up some story) to their address, and make sure they have to pay to pick it up.

I would really like to see where this ends up...

make sure you bait them into sending YOU money, and then totally shaft them.

I think I lost you fred. Why would he have to pay money to pick up his own mail? :dunno:

i think it might be in the best interests to contact the legal firm to which the DX address is associated.

Yeah, I think drunken has a point there. Perhaps swoxy or the other UK AF member could sort of "inquire" about the non-existant employees? Like a phone call to them, saying you were referred to this ghost name at this firm, say I not sure when they ask in reference to what, something sort of vague like that. Perhaps the receptionist can slip some info. out?

I think I lost you fred. Why would he have to pay money to pick up his own mail? :dunno:

You could insure it for a large amount making them pay import taxes on the contents.



Yeah, I think drunken has a point there. Perhaps swoxy or the other UK AF member could sort of "inquire" about the non-existant employees? Like a phone call to them, saying you were referred to this ghost name at this firm, say I not sure when they ask in reference to what, something sort of vague like that. Perhaps the receptionist can slip some info. out?

Good thought. Swoxy, you up for something like that?



i think it might be in the best interests to contact the legal firm to which the DX address is associated.

I think I'm going to look for a "Contact Us" spot on their website, and send them an email detailing the situation.

OK, made response to their request for money:

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Dear Mr. Gordon:

Wow! 950 Pounds to have the check sent? That seems quite high, but I am willing to pay it in order to receive my 1 million Euros. I understand that there are fees to be paid to the British Government.

I have a problem with wiring the money, and that is that a wire service lost my transfer of funds several years ago and made no refund to me. Therefore I do not trust a wire service to send money to you, but would prefer to send you a check for the 950 Pounds via FedEx or UPS. I hope that is acceptable to you. You have mentioned a couple of addresses (I think) and I am not familiar with the UK's addressing system; would you please send to me your exact address that FedEx can use so that I may send the check? Also, I am sure that there are some forms to be filled out, so please send those attached to your next email, I will fill them out completely and send them back with the check.

Thank you very much for your response.

It will take me a few days to assemble the funds, please be patient while I do so.

Mike Carlson

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Hopefully he'll send a different address; we'll see.



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Boy, he didn't waste any time responding. I guess this is his actual, typed response rather than the canned emails that I got earlier, it's hard to understand what he's saying:

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Good day to you, I have received your e-mail and the contents therein.
I write this communiqué with allusion to my previous e-mail prerequisite
to funds transfer, in the e-mail you were directed to issue the payment
via western union money transfer and not telegraphic bank transfer. I must
inform you that western union is one of our co operate sponsors therefore
we channel funds through their monetary network. It is therefore
imperative that you convey the 950pounds needed to garner certification
and approval from the fiscal authority of the United Kingdom via western
union transfer.
Effect the payment to our receiving officer:
NAME: JOHN PETERS
ADDRESS: DX 400 CHANCERY LANE LONDON.
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My response:
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Mr. Gordon, as I have stated I had a problem with Western Union in the
past. I cannot conscience taking the risk I associate with using
their service with a sum of money this large.

Should I send the FedEx check to the address you listed in your email?

Thank you for your reply.

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Now I figure I'll either never hear from him again, or he'll give me more address info. We'll see.


**edit** Also sent an email to Matrix, to see if they want to pursue this in any way. Got an "out of office auto reply" with the message they'd be back Monday.

I did contact the Matrix corporation, they answered with an email that "the matter is being investigated".

I haven't received anything back from the scammers, so perhaps offering to mail them a check didn't go over so well. I'll send them one more and see what happens.