things you would like in GT5

I just happened to check the info yesterday and Lambo is under the license of Electronic Arts and Sony doesn't want to pay the price to have the right to use their cars (they don't have to pay for most car producers since it's free publicity for them, that's the reason why there's no damage rendering). Porsche and Ferrari were under Microsoft license but Ferrari will be included in G.T. HD so it's not clear if Microsoft also dropped the Porsche license.

i think alot more cars would be a good idea, like instead of having 12 different skylines through in more average cars like the really old supras and for instance the best version of each year. Not retarded versions like the lx and then the lx 20th aniversary. That's just retarded. Maybe put both versions in if it's like the spura w/ a turbo version and a non-turbo but if it's just a version where say the car had more cup holders than the last one yeah either let us have an in cockpit view where we can see the cup holders or keep the mofo car out the game.

i think alot more cars would be a good idea, like instead of having 12 different skylines through in more average cars like the really old supras and for instance the best version of each year. Not retarded versions like the lx and then the lx 20th aniversary. That's just retarded. Maybe put both versions in if it's like the spura w/ a turbo version and a non-turbo but if it's just a version where say the car had more cup holders than the last one yeah either let us have an in cockpit view where we can see the cup holders or keep the mofo car out the game.

A lot more cars? How many of the GT4's 720+ cars have you actively used? Cmon, be realistic. You're right about the skyline though, I was trying to buy one just for fun to mess with it and guess what...I spent about 30 mins trying to pick one (Vspec, VspecII, Mspec, N1 NUR...), in the end I didnt buy anything and just turned off my PS2 in frustration! More models, not different versions of the same model. The thing I miss the most is the racing modifcation and regular street cars like the camry, gs400 and taurus just to name a few. As for the online feature some people told me they have it in GT4 but not officialy. The thing with the cup holders cracked me up..thanks.


Oh one more thing how the f*ck does ur gdamn penguin know all my personal info!!? pimp349!!

I dont know...its a signature...go to danasoft.com and you can create your own that will tell other people their stuff. Its not that hard to find out all this info anyway.

Here's some realism for ya i may not have used all of the cars but i may be a fan of some of the great car they didn't put in the game the s12 for instance and alot of great old muscle cars too like the zL1 ifu know what that is and the pontiac judge. I mean hello it isn't just ur taste they need to cater too dude they need to have cars for everyone. Some people like old cars so they need to take out a couple of those skylines(which are exactly the same) and put in some more cars from different eras like 50's 40's and 30's escpecially.

I admit that doing races in cars from the 30's would be really cool

Here's some realism for ya...I mean hello it isn't just ur taste they need to cater too dude they need to have cars for everyone. Some people like old cars so they need to take out a couple of those skylines(which are exactly the same) and put in some more cars from different eras like 50's 40's and 30's escpecially.


I agree with you 100% about the skylines, I would love some of the pre-war era cars too. They have the Audi Streamliner or something I think. As for the muscle cars, I'm generally not a big fan of those but still agree with you that they should put more in since they have many Jap cars fom that time period. But you do have to admit that GT started out being about everyday cars and JGTC cars...not muscle cars.

You do realize that they wont/cant put everything in the next one or else what would GT6 be about, you know? Its a businss after all...if they throw everything into the next one they wont have anything for the one after that. Something I see most likely to appear in GT5 by looking at other games out now are downloadable cars and tracks. And honestly, I dont like how the game "ends" only half way with the driving missions being optional, this way I dont want to do them since I already "beat" the game, the other GT's were longer and that was the beauty of them. Also they should return with the horsepower classes.

I personally find it way much more fun to tune a everyday car than to play with an already pre-tuned car like the Skyline, you can feel the difference a lot more... well, I think so...

I'd like to drive an El Camino ;)

I personally find it way much more fun to tune a everyday car than to play with an already pre-tuned car like the Skyline, you can feel the difference a lot more... well, I think so...

I'd like to drive an El Camino ;)


Hell yea, thats what I loved the first two GTs for. Taking a Mitsubishi Galant (or something of that nature) and making it a monster...lol...but to be honest though, I don't know why I've been writing this. I'm trying to sell my PS2 (and XBOX) becasue I have no time for video games lately. College and work take up most of the time, whatever is left goes to my girl and friends. I play games once a month, if I'm lucky. I tried playing Forza and gave up because it takes serious dedication to complete that game. I probaly will NOT be geting the next GT becasue I won't pay 500 or 600 for a PS3! Its a lot of money for a toy I know I won't use that much, even if it has the BLu-ray or whatever. That money can go towards my real car.

Sorry for getting off topic...definatly more common, everyday street cars that we see on the road but still add a few new racers (and concepts) here and there.

i have to agree with the skylines, 1 for each generation of the gtr r series, and a racing version of em, 6 total, and wen u buy a car from a used dealer it doesn't come up again, how about being able to change the color of the car, a f'in pink car, i think not. how about a few car companies more
porsche(i want my damn 924) ferrari, lambo, mclaren, vector(look at my user name) venturi, ultima, get sponsers on ur car(without placing them there urself like forza) a dodge stealth(i own a real tt, but it's not in the game) fiat, bugatti, maseratti, panoz roadster, i'm a car guy, i could name cars that no one has ever heard of. i'm definitly on board for makinga list and sending it, also how bout some tracks, sebring, daytona, rd atlanta, LE MANS, i hate fantasy tracks
NEW ONE HAS LIKE 20 CARS PER RACE

....i'm a car guy, i could name cars that no one has ever heard of.
:uhoh:...I thought everyone here was a car guy...I mean after all these ARE "Automotive Forums" aren't they... :grinyes:

also how bout some tracks, sebring, daytona, rd atlanta, LE MANS, i hate fantasy tracks

They did have Le Mans, 2 versions, with the chicanes and w/o. Yea...after Forza had all thos real life tracks I think GT will have no choice but to include more, real life tracks.

true everyone is a car guy or woman here, but i just want a huge ass selection of cars, and does anybody know how to get the ford gt90 in gt2, i could never figure that out. i don't think that there should be lisences, just unlock different things, like forza, i thought honestly that that is a better game. true with gt5 and forza 2 i think with gt5 being on the better system and running a different way completely that forza 2 is not gonna even come close but we'll have to c,. also when does gt4 hd come out, it looks amazing, almost real, it's scary

a dodge stealth(i own a real tt, but it's not in the game)

isn't the mitsubishi GTO a Dodge Stealth and actually the Stealth really was a rebadged GTO =P

mechanically it's a rebadged gto, along with the 3k gt, but i like dodge and i don't like mitsubishi, that and some people prefer the stealths looks over the other two. also they are different cars, wieght is different, and in a racing game weight helps, in the real world, 100lbs off a car is about a tenth of a second in acceleration. also in forza 1 they have both cars, and o yea they are put in 2 different classes because they are not exactly the same.

i also think that u should come up in local events, like in the usa, u start running a slightly modified version of a street car(i.e:rsx with a rool cage) also drive around the town would be cool, just don't go to the nfsu stuff. a calender events, like not all races are available whenever u want to race em, 24hrs le mans in june, atlanta in sept and so on, also bring back the hp cap, race a 900hp skyline vs. a 210hp talon, i dont think that's even fair

imprezas s 202,203,204.
P1.
hmm. some bodykits maybe.
Some drag races/
Technical damage/

Guys, I think many of you are forgetting what GT is all about:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_turismo

Gran Turismo is Spanish for grand touring or "grand tourisme." These terms are used to describe long distance or endurance races like 24 Hours of Le Mans, Mille Miglia, Targa Florio, Carrera Panamericana and the high-powered sports cars which compete there. Some examples are the BMW M3, Ferrari 250 GTO, Porsche 911 GT3, Porsche 904 GTS, and the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640.

After these famous races and cars, several road cars and even computer games adopted the Gran Turismo name:

* Grand tourer, a car designed for comfortable long distance driving.
* Gran Turismo (GT) series of games for the Sony PlayStation, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation 2, and PlayStation 3 gaming systems.
* Many automobiles integrate GT into their names or use GT to describe a particular trim level.

Originally, it was based on the JGTC, All-Japan Grand Touring Car Championship (now called Super GT) and had the cars from the series, plus a few outsiders (TS020, R390, & Viper GTS-R from Le Mans, and some others). I think it will (should!) be a further development of that and NOT stray off in some other direction. In recent years the Super GT has begun to hold races all over the world (GT4 had tracks from Korea, China and more importantly Le Mans and the Nürburgring, which is great) and I think the next GT should follow. I want the game to expand (CTS-V racecar please), but not become like many other racing games out there, "Jack of all trades, master of none". GT is the Ferrari of racing games, simply put, one of the best.

Speaking about Ferrari and other exotics in GT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Turismo_%28series%29

Criticisms

Also, there are certain notable marque omissions that leave many enthusiasts upset. There are no Lamborghinis (excepting a privateer JGTC Diablo in the Japanese edition of GT3), or Porsches (although RUF, which is available, builds its cars on Porsche chassis). Perhaps the most surprising absence of the game is that of Ferrari (although it is finally making an appearance in the new Gran Turismo HD). This is because the Publisher Electronic Arts holds the rights and will not allow futher licensing, at least not for a price acceptable to Sony/Polyphony.

I'm not a big fan of Forza, but the game is a good thing. It will force the makers of GT to include a lot more real life tracks in the next one since Forza had Road America, Sebring, Road Atlanta, and many others.

I learned many things about cars and racing from GT which I doubt I would've learned from games like NFS: underground. Dont forget, the earlier GT's had booklets about the theory of racing: perfect line, early/late apex, braking, acceleration, weight transfer, tire wear, +/- of FF, FR, MR, AWD cars, etc...lets hope this legend continues and GT stays true to its roots.

More cars, and equipment failures, also repaints, vinyls and bodykits

More cars, and equipment failures, also repaints, vinyls and bodykits

^^^obviously oblivious to all the posts in this thread that actually make sense.

the hd verson of gt4 comes out in march i've heard. and i just think, more cars, and damage, and more realistic tracks, that's all it needs. and for cars, ferrari porsche and lambo will do it for me

More Mustangs! Maybe some deisel trucks. Decals.

^^^obviously oblivious to all the posts in this thread that actually make sense.

Actually, I think this tells us something...Most likely, if there will be major changes of any kind, the next GT will have more of that stuff instead of the things we want. Sony will probably give in to more of their demands than ours. WHY you ask? More people buy games like NFS:U than GT. For every one game like Forza or GT, there are like 5+ street racing games and since Gran Turismo is a business, well, you know how it goes...There is a bigger following to that stuff than there is to endurance racing/grand touring. Out of all the people that play games (spend $$ on games), more are into "ricing" the cars than the actual "physics of motorsport." You know what I'm saying guys?

i think wat u just said is the dumbest thing eveer, other than if a person walks in and is wet, and u ask if it's raining out. but seriously gt wnt put ricer shit in, that's a different racing type, they relize that is made by to many other companies. and besides if u play with a cars setup in gt or forza u can drift, it's not that difficult. and besides i personally have more gt type games than nfs:u, actually thats the only one i have, the rest are gt2-4, forza and most likely f2, le mans,

i think wat u just said is the dumbest thing eveer, other than if a person walks in and is wet, and u ask if it's raining out. but seriously gt wnt put ricer shit in, that's a different racing type, they relize that is made by to many other companies. and besides if u play with a cars setup in gt or forza u can drift, it's not that difficult. and besides i personally have more gt type games than nfs:u, actually thats the only one i have, the rest are gt2-4, forza and most likely f2, le mans,

Was that really necessary? Why is it dumb? Because it doesn't agree with you're point of view? That just says that you're the retard. And learn how to spell my friend.

As far as I remember (but it's been a while sine I last played GT 2) you can't change you wheels in GT2 and you can in GT4... does it shows something? that Sony is ready to add non-race-usefull stuff to their game to please the ricers out there... much like there are 57 different kinds of nissan skylines in GT4 because all ricers know that the skyline is TEH SHIT!



that just made me think about something, being able to change the tires, and by that I mean the actual size of the tires, would be pretty kewl... small rims means more hp at the wheels, now, that's a racer thing (note that I don't use "i" in racer)

if u want to drift in a game, by a drift game, not gt, or forza, they are not made for that, they're made for grand touring, hence the name GRAN TURISMO. and i can spell, most my errors are made by the keyboard being too sensitive. all that's needed in gt5 is less skylines, we dnt need 57 different ones, 6 will suffice. we need more real world tracks, call sarth- le mans(more people know it that way), and i'd like it if the cars weren't locked as apposed to the hell u have to go thru to get them

if u wanna drift in a grand touring type game, enthusia, it's a good game, ps2. i own it, the cars are modified for u, but modified well. aboput 250 cars.

...they are not made for that, they're made for grand touring, hence the name GRAN TURISMO...

And you said my post was dumb? Why don't you read the first post on that page by me, you just repeated what I said.

...does it shows something? that Sony is ready to add non-race-usefull stuff to their game to please the ricers out there...

Yea man, you're right. Thats exactly what I was saying. Its called competition. If, for example, GT5 and Forza2 are exactly alike, but Forza has the option to add body kits, tints, or whatever, Forza will look as the better game.

oh btw you can change the size of rims in gt4.

oh btw you can change the size of rims in gt4.

How???

......christ almighty......

if he's talking about the different sizes of the different tyre types (race, gravel ice), then i'm going to go kill a bunny.

i think u should find a fricken bunny, the way it looks tho, forza2 isn't gonna b as good as the 1st, i've looked up car lists, and for some reason most companies rnt in it, or they dnt have everytthing singed for it yet, but gt5, or gt4hd(basis to gt5) is gonna have ferrari, and about the same amount of cars, which leads me to believe that they got rid of some skylines

ef hatches

i would really like to be able to download cars beyond the base type cars.
you could put them on a usb flash drive and plug it in when you start the game.
downloadable tracks would be cool too.
it would be cool to have an autocross editor too.
a big open area (like in LFS) that you could use for autocrossing, g-testing, and general testing stuff.
i think that it would be cool to be able to put WIDER tires on any car.
like 12" tires on an 800 hp miata.
that would be cool.
bodykits (aerokits?) would be cool because it would be a way to personalize a car a little bit.
i would like to have a RGB editor to repaint cars... especially a used car that you hate the color of.
there should be things you can do to make cars easier to control like wider tires and stuff.


i think that the drifting component shoud stay FAR away from the next gran tourismo and future gran tourismo games.

there is more stuff, but this is all i can remember right now.

I bet Sony will make a TON of downloads offering all of that stuff you mentioned for the next GT. Easiest way to do it.

If you guys didn't hear, Ferrari finally allowed the F430 and the 599GTB Fiorano to be featured in Gran Turismo HD as it's going to be called for PS3. It was in the lastest issue of Evo, the car mag from UK. It's on a side panel near the beginning.

Now thats some good news! any news on lamborghini?

I just want to adda few things.
1) I want the "G-meter" to show foreward and backward g's
2) I want in car views
3) I want to SEE the ENGINE, and the PARTS!!! I want to choose from different companies, and in dooing so, get different looking parts, performance, etc...

i'd like to see the car flip on the rally course

yea i'd like to c a car flip on a rally track. engine detail would b nice too, and different things, like air intake companies and exhaust, not just air intake/exhaust. b able to change the turbo pressure, from say 9bars to 14bars

b able to change the turbo pressure, from say 9bars to 14bars

You mean psi? Because 9 bar is about 126 psi...and I never heard of that much pressure haha.

You should be able to do actual NHRA sponsered drag racing tournaments. They had drag races in GT2.

engine damage
different tire tread patterns
Tire pressure adjustment

the game just rulez.

there was damage in arcade mode for gt2, just not body damage

personally i think that damage would make the game much harder to play because you would actually have to be careful not to over-rev and you would have to be careful of walls more.

play "Live for Speed" for a while and i promise that you will soon get tired of having to pit each time you touch a wall because it throws the suspension out of alignment.

i think that changing boost pressures and tire pressure would be cool.
as would allowing the installation of wider tires.
converting a car from FWD to AWD or RWD, or from RWD to AWD would be cool too.
it would have to be Uber expensive tho.

the creators of Grand Turismo should team up with the creators of Burnout :thumbsup:

no. that would ruin the game.

how bout , u buy the base car, at the start, not the gtr skyline for example, how bout the gts version, then as u go thru u can upgrade it urself, kind of like nfs type but still the same thing as gt. start with more than 10g, maybe 20, most cars cost that much, or 15 if u wanna start with like a civic. forza gives u 23k or something, i found that a good idea. also dnt replace the used car lot with the saem damn car again, i dnt wanna buy a 3000gt vr4, than find it again nxt week.
also u dnt choose weather a car is m/t or a/t. wen u buy a race car, its only maual, i'ev never seen one that a/t. wwen u go to buy one u choose(for a new car) for used they are either depending on wat the original owner got. how is it that i can buy an automatic in a 3000gt vr4, which in real life was only a manual, trust me i own the sister car of it. more realism, not shitness. they are all good games, but forza is looking better than gt.

the reason for having an automatic in a manual only car is that some people find it too difficult to press a button when they want to change gears.

in nearly every car, the auto version also has fewer gears than the manual, and usually has shorter gearing to help make up the acceleration that will be lost to the tranny. none of this appears in GT4.
does it matter, i dont think so.

the creators of Grand Turismo should team up with the creators of Burnout :thumbsup:
That's like saying make GT5 for the 360 (bad idea).

i dnt really think that if they attempted to sell gt5 on the 360 it wouldnt b bad, the only reason i bought regular xbox was for forza(360 wasnt out yet) and i admit it is a great game, but it's not everything i want, all it has better than gt4 is damage and graphics(the system)

I've always believed that polyphony digital was a part of sony, but this could very well be not true, but either way, GT is one of those "sony only" games in my eyes (kinda like project gotham racing or halo for xbox). With sony in the picture, I think it would be stupid for GT5 to be available for 360 as this can very well hurt ps3 sales. I mean be honest, would you still buy a ps3 if GT5 was also on 360, i sure as hell wouldn't. The game series itself however would make a lot more money if it was on an xbox platform also, no doubt and would be nice to see as it could possibly look better on a microsoft product.

no u got a point that it would hurt ps3 sales, but i went from playing forza on xbox to playing gt4 on ps2, let me tell u that was a mistake, graphics are so much worse on ps2 its unbelievable. the realism is much better on forza, but thats just the game itself.
the only reason people would still buy ps3 is for other games that are only made for ps3.
some other things they should consider with gt5, when u wash the car, it looks cleaner. body shops, so if they do add damage, not only does it cost to get fixed, but it wont allow u to race that car in the next race. and now that ea has basically given up rights on ferrari and lambo and porsche, include them too, but dnt leave out all the other rare cars like cizetta. bring back some cars, even from companies that dnt exist anymore, like vector, venturi, plymouth, desoto. another thing, wen u unlock a car thru racing, it stays unlocked, i accidently sold my f1 car, so i had to rerace the 24hrs nuringburg to get. o and on nuringburg, put in some of the other tracks it has to offer
thats all i can think of now, i just really wanna race vectors again, and a porsche 924 carrera

i'm surprised vector hasn't been added to the lineup in the first 4. Similar to Lotus with sleek aircraft like styling and good amount of v8 power. Deserves to be in the game.

vector was in gt2, made me happy, its the only rason i still have the game. lotus has been in all but the 1st one.
the only reason vector wont b in another game is because it's not vector anymore, and basically the company is split between two other companies, cant get the rights. i als o want fisker in it, and of course the veyron.
also instead of there being 8 skylines to choose from in the nissan dealer alone, have it in colomns, get to the skyline, then scroll down to get the one u want, hit x, and choose the color.
also custom color and decals, cause face it, the only way to sell a ps3 and gt5 will be if its better than forza 2, the game and system would b like $800. but f2 and 360 would b like 350, depending on which 360 is chosen.
different discs for arcade and simulation, it would allow for more to be put on the simulation cd and the arcade disc.
o and be able to start another series of races without losing the series ur in.
and some cars from the 30's, hot rods, and duesenbergs, yes that company still exists, they made a car in 03

forza motorsports 2 creators did a great job, they must've read this forum, there are only 4 SKYLINES in the game. granted the list doesnt have the tuner cars, so god only knows wat the final count will be. take a look at the list google forza motorsports 2

haha theres like 58 unique skylines in gt4. not counting different colors. and mileage on the used ones.

yea well i'll be happy

Free roam would be interesting, but who would honestly drive at speed limit?? It's hard enough in real life let alone in game!!!!! :banghead: That would get mind numbing I believe, cool idea but it'll never happen!! Body kits is a good idea also, I think the customisation does need to be stepped up, look at Forza on Xbox, admittadely they only have a few kits but it makes buying a car more interesting & personal!!:grinyes:

I would like 92 - 00 honda civic coupes and 4drs.96-98 Civic Sirs' 91-93 integras.94 - 97 integras.integra 4drs.Burnout out til the tires blow.lipkits from mugen.spoon.type r.rims from mugen.spoon.rotas.spoilers from spoon for civic hatchbacks. blow your engine and purchase a new one. drop the car to the ground=). real life car damage.paint jobs. see intercoolers when car is turbo'd.jdm civic and integra fogs.headlight bulb change.different exhaust make different sounds.different blow off valve sounds. adjustable blow off valves. drift session.car show=0 engine swaps=)after market exhaust.n1 angle exhaust.body shop for conversions=)clutch button.blinkers hazardz and reverse lights.Track. dyno tune. alot of other things but cant think of it.lol.and oh yea. street racing gathering. drive up to a group of people and watch drag races and attend them

The Gran Turismo series doesn't focus on the bad boys who take their mums car and make it look like something they got with their Kellogs Rice Crispies that morning!!!!!! (not that I have anything against the real tuner cars...... Skyline GTRs, Mitsu Evos, Scoobies etc!!)