OK, you forgot last year

OK, last year for my birthday (July 20th) I asked you guys to get me one small thing. But, NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
OK, here's another year. Can we get it done this year????????????

Here's what I want;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/charger_gallery_03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/charger_gallery_05.jpg

If you all chip in $5.00 or $10.00 we can get it done.

OK, last year for my birthday (July 20th) I asked you guys to get me one small thing. But, NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
OK, here's another year. Can we get it done this year????????????

Here's what I want;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/charger_gallery_03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/charger_gallery_05.jpg

If you all chip in $5.00 or $10.00 we can get it done.

Jim, how about if we just send you an email birthday card......lol. :lol2: BTW - You do know that this is a Pontiac Grand Prix forum. :lol2:

While we're on the subject, I'd rather have this but too bad it doesn't really exist.

Click on link:

http://www.westcoast6s.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/gtosadwwrbd.jpg



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Jim, I was going to ask the same thing, you would give up reputation as a Grand Prix man and jump to the Dodge ranks! I would have never believed that. Of course if everyone would like to pitch in and help out their friendly moderator I would be glad to get one of those for my birthday in October!!!!

I think the GP is the greatest thing since Henry Ford throw the switch. But, with a 6.1 Hemi, and those looks. And the fact it would be a gift from my friends...........
And beside, I have always said, "I won't own a Chrysler product till they put a Hemi back in it, and they look a lot better". They seem to have keep their part of the deal.

I think the GP is the greatest thing since Henry Ford throw the switch. But, with a 6.1 Hemi, and those looks. And the fact it would be a gift from my friends...........
And beside, I have always said, "I won't own a Chrysler product till they put a Hemi back in it, and they look a lot better". They seem to have keep their part of the deal.

Jim, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think the new Chryslers look ugly. Reminds me of a car out of the fifties/sixties crossed with a coffin. How is that thing gonna look 5 years from now? Plus IMO it doesn't make any difference if they put the 426 Hemi back in, it will never maintain the overall value and resale of a similar GM let alone a Ford automobile over the years. Of course, the late sixties, early seventies Mopar supercars are excluded and thats a different issue. Just my 2 cents. :2cents:



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Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

Jim, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think the new Chryslers look ugly. Reminds me of a car out of the fifties/sixties crossed with a coffin. How is that thing gonna look 5 years from now? Plus IMO it doesn't make any difference if they put the 426 Hemi back in, it will never maintain the overall value and resale of a similar GM let alone a Ford automobile over the years. Of course, the late sixties, early seventies Mopar supercars are excluded and thats a different issue. Just my 2 cents. :2cents:

I disagree. Ford has nothing similar and the closest thing GM has is the STS at 20K more. I think the 300 has a nice niche cut out for itself, especially the performance models. The Charger looks good too. The SRT8 Hemi has more power (425 net vs. 425 gross)than the original 426 Hemi and is much more streetable. I must admit not liking the look but it grew on me.

You have to remember, the first production Hemi's were designed to use in trucks. Well they did use them in trucks, the 1950 Dodge (the red ram Hemi).
As far as coffins go. The way half these people drive out there, they are all coffins. But atleast we get to pick the color of this one.
I have said since the new GTO has came out, that it's Bruce Lee sister...UG. Pontiac should take the Grand Prix, put rear wheel drive in it. AND then ask us the guys that will buy and drive it, what motor they should put in it. GM will soon only be number one in S. America, if they don't do something soon. They used to make cars like the 1966 Chevy II, with a 327, 350 HP. Car ran like a raped ape. Then they had the 1970 Nova, with a 454. Now a days, you get to pick what 6 cy. you want. They have a couple 8 cy. running around. Dodge and Ford have pickup trucks that will chase them down. Let's get back to the 60's and 70's.
We're keeping the old style GP's cause they look better then that new "turtle with braces". Get off your ass GM, and make us proud.
Class dismissed

You have to remember, the first production Hemi's were designed to use in trucks. Well they did use them in trucks, the 1950 Dodge (the red ram Hemi).
As far as coffins go. The way half these people drive out there, they are all coffins. But atleast we get to pick the color of this one.
I have said since the new GTO has came out, that it's Bruce Lee sister...UG. Pontiac should take the Grand Prix, put rear wheel drive in it. AND then ask us the guys that will buy and drive it, what motor they should put in it. GM will soon only be number one in S. America, if they don't do something soon. They used to make cars like the 1966 Chevy II, with a 327, 350 HP. Car ran like a raped ape. Then they had the 1970 Nova, with a 454. Now a days, you get to pick what 6 cy. you want. They have a couple 8 cy. running around. Dodge and Ford have pickup trucks that will chase them down. Let's get back to the 60's and 70's.
We're keeping the old style GP's cause they look better then that new "turtle with braces". Get off your ass GM, and make us proud.
Class dismissed

a raped ape huh? and you would know this how??? ;)
only kidding...but i agree. the GTO looks like a glorified cavalier. pretty bad. beyond it, GM's hurtin. turtle with braces is pretty harsh, they're not THAT bad.. and as for your present dont hold your breath.

a raped ape huh? and you would know this how??? ;)
only kidding...but i agree. the GTO looks like a glorified cavalier. pretty bad. beyond it, GM's hurtin. turtle with braces is pretty harsh, they're not THAT bad.. and as for your present dont hold your breath.

I know school and pizzas. But, you wouldn't chip in to see an old man happy? I mean a 20 year woman would be nice. But what do you talk about in the morning? And they tire out too soon. No, has to be the car. I'll even let you ride in the back seat once.

If GM doesn't wake up soon, they might as well turn all their plants into WalMarts. If it weren't for the memorys of the GTO and 442 what have they done for us lately?

You all can have the Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Dodge Chargers, etc. I'm banking on GM the next few years. If Chrysler's niche programs like the PT Cruiser is a sign for things ahead count me out. That car is a piece of garbage and spends more time at the dealer getting repaired than on the road.

I'd rather spend the money on a Caddy such as the CTS-V or better yet the Corvette Z06. At least they'll be worth something 4 to 6 years from now and will either beat or match the SRT-8.

BTW - $20K difference in price. I doubt that. The last I heard the SRT-8, 6.1 Hemi Sedan will go for $40K and up.

Plus I don't trust cars that run on 4 cylinders out of 8 to save on gas.
:thumbsdow


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Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

You all can have the Chrysler 300C SRT-8 and Dodge Chargers, etc. I'm banking on GM the next few years. If Chrysler's niche programs like the PT Cruiser is a sign for things ahead count me out. That car is a piece of garbage and spends more time at the dealer getting repaired than on the road.

I'd rather spend the money on a Caddy such as the CTS-V or better yet the Corvette Z06. At least they'll be worth something 4 to 6 years from now and will either beat or match the SRT-8.

BTW - $20K difference in price. I doubt that. The last I heard the SRT-8, 6.1 Hemi Sedan will go for $40K and up.

Plus I don't trust cars that run on 4 cylinders out of 8 to save on gas.
:thumbsdow


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u-bend delete, 160 TS,TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 spark plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials


Boy aren't we crabby.

OK I'll give you the Vette. Blurr can have the PT. You can buy me this;



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/mac010.jpg

Boy aren't we crabby.

OK I'll give you the Vette. Blurr can have the PT. You can buy me this;



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/mac010.jpg

hey hey that PT piece i agree with naylor its junk..even with the 2.4L Turbo.. havent liked it since it came out.
but kid..you sure you can handle that thing above? doesnt it go like 240 or something? and maybe i'll throw some spare change at your cause, but no quarters. saving them for atlantic city in january :grinyes:

and as for the vette..well i'll still take the viper up until the 06 comes out. GM's finally catching up possibly too little too late

and as for your 4 cylinder dropout i guess you won't be buying a GXP now that GM has jumped on the bandwagon.

hey hey that PT piece i agree with naylor its junk..even with the 2.4L Turbo.. havent liked it since it came out.
but kid..you sure you can handle that thing above? doesnt it go like 240 or something? and maybe i'll throw some spare change at your cause, but no quarters. saving them for atlantic city in january :grinyes:

and as for the vette..well i'll still take the viper up until the 06 comes out. GM's finally catching up possibly too little too late

and as for your 4 cylinder dropout i guess you won't be buying a GXP now that GM has jumped on the bandwagon.

240, that's not fast. 70 MPH down US 19 is deadly.
PT's rock!!! No, wait. You throw rocks at them. Now I remember.
How the hell did this get started. Now I remember. Somebody looking for a birthday gift. :thinkerg:
I think you should keep your change if your going there. Might want to take a lot of phone numbers with you, so you can get a ride home. :lol2:

240, that's not fast. 70 MPH down US 19 is deadly.
PT's rock!!! No, wait. You throw rocks at them. Now I remember.
How the hell did this get started. Now I remember. Somebody looking for a birthday gift. :thinkerg:
I think you should keep your change if your going there. Might want to take a lot of phone numbers with you, so you can get a ride home. :lol2:


Hey Jim, the best birthday gift would be 10,000 shares of GM stock.
Get it while its down.

Personally, I believe that the big 3 are on their way back as far as performance, looks, handling and technology, etc. Even Ford is getting on the bandwagon with the Mustang Shelby GT500. The Japanese are going to have to hustle to keep up. :lol2:

But if these new musclecars are only going to get 12 - 13 mpg in city then the switching between 8 to 4 cylinders may not be a bad idea. I don't care as long as it works. Supposedly there's a 15 to 20% improvement in fuel economy.

Just like politics, sometimes you have to switch party lines to get what you want. Different strokes for different folks. :dunno:



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Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

I don't care about gas mileage. I have a GTO in storage that get's 4 MPG. I have a GTX that get's 14 to 17 MPG. A GTP that gets 16. And they all burn prem. Give me a car that when you kick it in the butt, the tears run behind your ears.
I bought Chrysler stock for pennies. My exwife loved it when the court gave her every damn one. You know when I die, I want to come back as a good looking woman. Cause someone grandson is going to pay thru the noise.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/334-generatorforsale.jpg

Buy a gen?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/334-generatorforsale.jpg

Buy a gen?


Sold!!!!!!!!! :bigthumb: :lol2:


http://www.photodump.com/direct/coolrex/100.jpg


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 ECU,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS,TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 spark plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

Sold!!!!!!!!! :bigthumb: :lol2:


http://www.photodump.com/direct/coolrex/100.jpg



is she included?

is she included?

Why, you couldn't get the gen. to work either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/kustomkid54/Crack.gif

I'll take two of those, to hell with chrysler a bunch of over priced junk! i am still on board with GM

I'll take two of those, to hell with chrysler a bunch of over priced junk! i am still on board with GM

I've bought more GM cars then more then likely anyone on this site. But that junk will out run the GTO.
My God, I own a 1966 GTO. I sat around waiting for it to come out. I had my name on the list to buy one. The day it came out I was driving one down US 19. I brought it back to the dealer. The guy had a big smile on his face, till I told him "no thanks". GM has a lot of balls to build everyone up and give them that.

I've bought more GM cars then more then likely anyone on this site. But that junk will out run the GTO.
My God, I own a 1966 GTO. I sat around waiting for it to come out. I had my name on the list to buy one. The day it came out I was driving one down US 19. I brought it back to the dealer. The guy had a big smile on his face, till I told him "no thanks". GM has a lot of balls to build everyone up and give them that.


Jim, I hate fueling this debate but it looks like the General took everyone's advice and improved the Goat. I agree the first one left a lot to be desired. But this things got a LS2 6.0L engine with 400 hp and 400 lbs-ft torque. 0 - 60 under 5 secs and 1/4 in low 13s for under $35K.

Looks like a draw to me and GMs got the price edge over Chrysler when compared to the SRT-8.

Here's what Car & Driver summarized:

The GTO resurrects the name of Pontiac’s fabled ’60s muscle car and is very much in the same tradition: big power in a brawny rear-drive coupe. When it was introduced last year, the GTO came powered by GM’s LS1 V-8, which was rated at 350 hp. This year, it gets the LS2, which produces 400 hp. Also new for 2005 are a split dual-exhaust system, two new colors, and an available hood scoop. With the 350-hp engine, the GTO could scoot to 60 in 5.3 seconds, cover the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat, and deliver formidable midrange punch. With 50 more horses for 2005, these numbers should all improve. Unlike its fast-in-a-straight-line predecessor, the new GTO has agility to match the muscle thanks to a tuned independent suspension. With its combination of power, comfort, and price, we rate the GTO as one of the best performance buys around.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gto.jpg

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then its a Pontiac. :lol2:



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg

Jim, I hate fueling this debate but it looks like the General took everyone's advice and improved the Goat. I agree the first one left a lot to be desired. But this things got a LS2 6.0L engine with 400 hp and 400 lbs-ft torque. 0 - 60 under 5 secs and 1/4 in low 13s for under $35K.

Looks like a draw to me and GMs got the price edge over Chrysler when compared to the SRT-8.

Here's what Car & Driver summarized:

The GTO resurrects the name of Pontiac’s fabled ’60s muscle car and is very much in the same tradition: big power in a brawny rear-drive coupe. When it was introduced last year, the GTO came powered by GM’s LS1 V-8, which was rated at 350 hp. This year, it gets the LS2, which produces 400 hp. Also new for 2005 are a split dual-exhaust system, two new colors, and an available hood scoop. With the 350-hp engine, the GTO could scoot to 60 in 5.3 seconds, cover the quarter-mile in 14 seconds flat, and deliver formidable midrange punch. With 50 more horses for 2005, these numbers should all improve. Unlike its fast-in-a-straight-line predecessor, the new GTO has agility to match the muscle thanks to a tuned independent suspension. With its combination of power, comfort, and price, we rate the GTO as one of the best performance buys around.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gto.jpg

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then its a Pontiac. :lol2:



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg


OK, I'm easy to get alone with. Just ask my ex-wife.
What you are telling me, is your 1997 GTP will out ride the New GTO, right? So I should give them $40,000.00 and still can't out run your car, or mine. What a deal.
So, I'm just going to keep what I have. Enless someone comes up with enough money. Then I will look for another GP. It's always fun to start all over.

OK, I'm easy to get alone with. Just ask my ex-wife.
What you are telling me, is your 1997 GTP will out ride the New GTO, right? So I should give them $40,000.00 and still can't out run your car, or mine. What a deal.
So, I'm just going to keep what I have. Enless someone comes up with enough money. Then I will look for another GP. It's always fun to start all over.


Looks like performance off the production line doesn't come cheap nowadays. But if we go back to the late 60s and early 70s compared to today, the cost is probably about right when adjusted for inflation and modern day wages.:lol2:

But I've got to admit it's awfully tempting. See below:

http://ultimategto.com/carshows/bondurant04/05smoke.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 ECU,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

Looks like performance off the production line doesn't come cheap nowadays. But if we go back to the late 60s and early 70s compared to today, the cost is probably about right when adjusted for inflation and modern day wages.:lol2:

But I've got to admit it's awfully tempting. See below:

http://ultimategto.com/carshows/bondurant04/05smoke.jpg



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 ECU,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials


Well, it is a nice looking car, and the weight is less then mine. And I see you keep showing it in black. I'll look into them some more.
Well off to work. Have a great Father's day. And remember, let the kids wash the car.

I think the GTO is made in Australia (so my local Pontiac dealership across from my buddy's business says).

The marketing photos make it look all agressive. But it looks kind of like a cross between the old Grand Am SE's and a Sunfire (a.k.a. Cavilear).

They were saying in an article about the new Dodge RAM with the on demand cylinder technology (I guess you can call it that) that it only saves 1-2 MPG.

Makes sense because when you aren't using 8, the 4-6 are working harder to pull that heavy truck around.

Sounds like a gimmick to me.

I think the GTO is made in Australia (so my local Pontiac dealership across from my buddy's business says).

The marketing photos make it look all agressive. But it looks kind of like a cross between the old Grand Am SE's and a Sunfire (a.k.a. Cavilear).

Its made by Holden in Australia. Originally called the Monaro CV8.

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modeloverview?modelid=12001

Nothings made in the USA anymore. :dunno:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 ECU,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials

Its made by Holden in Australia. Originally called the Monaro CV8.

http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/modeloverview?modelid=12001

Nothings made in the USA anymore. :dunno:


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/lizzywiz/gtp.jpg
Thrasher CAI, DHP v1.0 ECU,
3.25 SC pulley, CAIT GMAF, Hi-Flow CAT,
u-bend delete, 160 TS, TB spacer,
MSD 8.5mm wires, Autolite 104 Spark Plugs,
Goodyear Gatorback Serp. & SC Belt,
Nitto NT555R Drag Radials


The only thing made in the USA is the money to pay for all this junk, made OVER THERE. :newburn:

http://www.westfront.de/cards/cards/BDAY033.jpg

Not sure how many candles there are supose to be?
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