importing

i have a question on importing a 1994 nissan skyline i know i would have to legalize it but. how much would it be around al together. if anyone would know please e-mail me at [email protected]
thanks michael,

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another newb pls

sorry buddy, but you are too late. skylines can no longer be legalized at this time.

Read every post that talks about importing and you will releize it can't be done.....

Unless you have connections? damn states, I don't want a freaking Infinity GTR>.< I want a skyline R34 GTR! >.<

o and i bet you dont own a 94 skyline ur just like that driftsilvia dude from the 240sx section

You can import but not drive them, how about that... Only take it to shows but still can't drive it unless you have your own track in your backyard, then you could drive it...

you can title a JDM car.just have to know how.and its pretty easy

And don't forget, pretty illegal!

Are other japanese cars limited like this? I bet the reason why they dont let you drive them is that theyre too good. they dont want you driving a car thats so much better than anything here :grinyes:

(o and i bet you dont own a 94 skyline ur just like that driftsilvia dude from the 240sx section)

I have no clue what this person ment?? Yes I don't own a 94 skyline....how am I like the driftsilvia dude???? clueless..

Email me I'll fill you on prices etc.... Just click my sig where it says email an it will be fowarded.

o and i bet you dont own a 94 skyline ur just like that driftsilvia dude from the 240sx section

like wtf of course he doesn't own one, that's why he's asking how much it would cost to import one!

amen brother.its the automakers that run the DOT.you think a car from japan isnt safe,you think cars that are ment for europe arent crash tested.you think the car makes are going to make cars that are dangerous to only sell to other countries but US.come on prime example.the euro/JDM version evo is far more superior then its US counterpart



i live in japan and you can bet the cars here are not safe!! thoes suckers crumple up like a tin can, if cars here have a small minor acdents it will have ya in the hospitial, an example is my friend in the states got t-boned by a full sized van in the driver side on the freway after he lost control dodging someone else that lost control in his new celica, totaled the car but he didnt get hurt much, went to the hospital and left the same day, he only had some back aches after that lasted a while, here in japan a guy in a skyline I know had his hip crushed by a similar acedent but the speeds involved where way lower. now that is comparing a small car in america vs a big car in japan. trust me, look a pics of crashed cars in japan vs crashed cars in the states, the ones in japan for the majority look like they where hit by a semi tuck

no its not illegal cause when you have to bring it to the DMV offical for inspection.if it was illegal they wont title it


yes homie....it is illegal. the car was not offered in the US. that automatically makes it so that you cant just bring the car over and title it. any given car imported into the united states (except for a few exceptions) has to meet california state emissions standards (CARB), and it has to meet federal crash saftey standards. a skyline cannot be imported for show use, and if its imported for race use it has to be out of the country in 6 months.

dude...you dont know what your talking about. skylines can not just be imported and then titled, BECAUSE customs has to release the car to you. and unless the car is going to an RI, they will not release the car at all.

The noble and ultima are kit-cars without a doubt. The Skyline is a production vehicle its not that simple. It so much more work to all the disassembling and then putting it back together. So when work an labor is all said and done its even more. Not all of us have garages to work at nor do some of us know how to put a whole car together.

The noble and ultima are kit-cars without a doubt. The Skyline is a production vehicle its not that simple. It so much more work to all the disassembling and then putting it back together. So when work an labor is all said and done its even more. Not all of us have garages to work at nor do some of us know how to put a whole car together.
ultimate and noble are production sports cars in UK.not as big as nissan or ford.and if you see a noble title,it doesnt say KIT CAR on it.

why is the skyline illegal again?

ultimate and noble are production sports cars in UK.not as big as nissan or ford.and if you see a noble title,it doesnt say KIT CAR on it.

In motor trend, C&D and R&T have all mentioned it as a kit car. WHY do you think it comes in TWO peices to the US?????? Chassis and ENGINE SEPARATE. My friend looked at the M12 GTO 3R the most expensive one and they said it would be a 6 month wait due to them ASSEMBLING them in the US! The chassis are welded in south africa and shipped to the US in 2 pieces. The Ultima one person on the forum his dad has an ultima and he BUILT IT HIM SELF. Most cars that have high HP and low weight are custom built.

why is the skyline illegal again?


not safty tested to us specs, is the major one, like my prior post said japenese cars are deadly in a crash they dont got side impact bars in doors and lots of other things, also emmisions can come in to play.

its still illegal to bring a skyline in as parts or in peices. it is stated on the NHSTA website that a skyline cannot be dissasembled, brought into the us, and re-assembled in the states. it will not register the car.

celm obvisaully you don't know shit about the Skyline and how it can not be imported and titled at ALL... Just stop saying it can be because it can't.. END OF STORY..

celm obvisaully you don't know shit about the Skyline and how it can not be imported and titled at ALL... Just stop saying it can be because it can't.. END OF STORY..
you going to take the word from someone who list his wet dreams
2000 Nissan Skyline
1997 Toyota Supra
2005 Dodge Viper
1969 Dodge Charger
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle
1978 Jeep CJ-7

Dream cars which I will never have so fuck you....

You try to think you can still get a Skyline in teh USA which you can't.... And if you look at my age I CAN'T even DRIVE...

Dream cars which I will never have so fuck you....

You try to think you can still get a Skyline in teh USA which you can't.... And if you look at my age I CAN'T even DRIVE...that explains the ignorance and the immaturity and the professionalism in your grammar

Ok stop spamming our board of BS...

if you guys are taking the word of a 14 year old.god help ya

NOTICE:MUST BE OVER 25 YEARS OF AGE TO KNOW ANYTHING.

if you guys are taking the word of a 14 year old.god help ya
im double that i was refering to Skyline_BNR34

if you guys are taking the word of a 14 year old.god help ya

Chill...

He's is right the skyline can be brought to the U.S by other R.I's. Some R.I's do have the capability to legalize, but no R.I's will just do it just for one customer. As of now the only one that actaully did legality was motorex and they CURRENTLY arent legalizing. At this very second as your reading this there is no R.I's that legalize skylines.

And the noble Isn't a kit car in the UK because their main factory is located there. 3 Rare special edition M12 3R's were stolen 2 months ago from there shop. The ulitima is british to I think.. The UK has laess standards then the US therefore they dont need to be shipped in by pieces thus making them a production car in OTHER countries.

Yea like a Type-R or an S13 maybe if that.

how ypou think people import JDM cars in the US with out a RI.they take them apart


and did you read that i said thats illegal? if your found out the car gets crushed and you get stuck with a 250k fine.


as per legalization, any RI can import the cars, but only 2 RI's are authorized by the DOT to sell them, and only one of those RI's are authorized to bring them into spec for the US.


and if you want to keep telling me that I dont know shit, refer to this link (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=401615).

Yea but some 14 year olds know stuff which they learned and has been repeated over and over again...

Then why does the noble use ford mondeo parts? As well as lotus parts and other basic model cars?

please do research before posting.the lotus elise uses a toyota motor.so you going to say its a kit car.teh pagani Zonda uses a benz motor .alot of comapnyies uses other companies motors for teh fact that they are proven motors that are reliable.and also cost is a factor in any compies eyes,its cheaper to use another manufactures motor the do develope one



no it is probley not kit cars but... alot of companys DO NOT use other manufactures motors for there cars, the majority of companys that do are smaller companys who make lower numbers of cars, car companys that use other peoples motor / parts on a car is a company that is planing on selling a low number of that car to a small market section, or made an aggrement with the other comapny for advertizing ect... , also I cant really think of any other big names that does this except the 2 you listed


for example with lotus elise they chose a cheap engine ( ya it is nice but hardly exotic level ) so they can sell there elise at a lower price, I belive the main reason they dont make there own engins for the elise model is that they dont have the ability to make a decent number of them cheap cause they are a much more hands on auto company vs an assemble line type like gm or toyota, however even useing this stratgy to make more cars more afforadble you still see a very small number of elise's or zonda's



also a large part of the illigal factor of parting out the car and reasembling is intent to fradulize / abuse the system, the gov says dont import this car, you say well i can loop hole it this way, techinaly it is legal i would suppose, but if you ever have to go to court over your car expect to lose .


also just cause some one is young does not mean he dosn't know what he is talking about, i have known 13 year olds that can discribe the inner workings of a F-16 better then i can, down to the hydrulic pressures , engine temps, system operating spec ( non classified that is ), i look at it this way with the younger crowd, the internet is one of the greatest learning tools out there and people who dont work full time, have much more time to lookup / learn stuff on it then adults, and yes reading website ( if they are accurate ones ) is a good learning tool.

i also did some reasearch in to the kit car / disassemble / assemble idea and here is what i found from the epa


"Motor vehicles" must comply with the Clean Air Act and may not be disassembled nor purchased in a disassembled form for the purposes of evading the Clean Air Act or the Imports regulations. In these situations the kit car body/chassis combination must be certified by the manufacturer, must be in a configuration which was previously certified by EPA subject to the guidelines discussed at "2" above or, in the case of an importation, an EPA form 3520-1 must be filed at the port of entry and the vehicle imported by an eligible ICI who must ensure that the kit car body/chassis complies with all applicable emission requirements. At the present time, there are no ICIs eligible to import kit cars.


here is the link for this

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/imports/kitcar.htm

I will look for info on the nhtsa next


also Celm please try not to badmouth people, considering about half to 3/4 's of you posts are just that

found this on nhtsa site for importing for show / display reasons, funny you cant even import a skyline for this, at least with out getting them to approve of it first



http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ShowDisplay/sdlist06202005.html

and this where it states that it can ONLY be imported legaly by a RI, it does NOT say inless you can find a loophole

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/FAQ%20Site/pages/page10.html


and this where it talks about parting out a car and bringing it here, says in section 10 if you bring it with a motor it is considered importing and a ri hase to do it, if you ship it sepratly you still have to remove / relpace all parts that do not conform to the nhtsa regs like all the safty parts so you would pritty much have a running car ( maby ) but no way in hell you could drive it on the streets

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/FAQ%20Site/pages/page2.html#Anchor-10-55977

so please reply Celm, I belive i have given an inteligent argument about this, I have not just said no you cant, please tell me how according to these rules you can legaly bring a skyline in to the states ??? I would like to hear it, and please post it, dont tell me to call, pick a state to base you idea on ( another post you said state matters ??) lets say texas , and tell us how you can do it. I am posting this for the benfit of this board, not my self, since unlike the unfortunt majorty of this board I can buy and drive a skyline legaly and cheaply seeing as i live in japan,

first i havent bashed you til this thread

on to what i have to say


I am american I was born in the states, I am in the airforce living in japan so how that for foot in mouth ??

so i am SHOWING you the laws about my home country. I didnt dictate them the US GOVERMENT DID .

also copy paster as you say, these are GOVERMENT sites that state FEDRAL GOVERMENT LAWS, should i read them and then retype them in my own words, no cause then you would say i have no evdince,


also if you actuly READ what i said, I asked you to explain how you do it legaly? please stop advoiding that question and type it in, tell us how it is done legaly so others at the forum can do it and have nice jdm cars to drive in the states.

also now you sell these cars, didnt you post in another area that you bought your evo from evolution imports,


Also from looking at evolution imports site more it looks like you might work for them, are you registered under the RI list, i didnt see that name on it, you need to be a RI to legaly import cars, was woundring cause thoes skylines on there site have kph markings no mph markings, also I can almost belive you have a 94 skyline but a 99 r34 there is no current legal way to import thoes

also evolution imports is selling street legal cars with non street legal exhaust already installed on them ??? and they are adviterizing this fact on there website ?

YOU said you bring it in as parts then assemble it, sooo read up on the laws and tell me how you do that legaly.

if not leave and stop posting here like you keep saying you will do,

you are wrong and will not own up to it, if you are not wrong prove it



if it is so easy why dont you see them on the street more often ?
if it is so easy why do you see conficated ones for export sale only by the gov ALL the time


and FINALY if it is SO easy why dont YOU tell us a LEGAL way to do it

please do research before posting.the lotus elise uses a toyota motor.so you going to say its a kit car.teh pagani Zonda uses a benz motor .alot of comapnyies uses other companies motors for teh fact that they are proven motors that are reliable.and also cost is a factor in any compies eyes,its cheaper to use another manufactures motor the do develope one

NO shit benz funds pangani it uses a 7.3 V12 same as the CLK-GTR... I know the lotus has a toyota engine its actaully an 01+ celica engine. Thats one thing. The NOBLE is pieces from all different cars. Yes and thats why nobles are so cheap... 1 because they are various parts 2 you assemble the transaxel and fit it to the frame yourself and 3 it doesnt just use one model car part in it. The S7 uses a mustang mirror motors in it Whoop dee doo. The mclaren F1 uses a Bmw engine wow great but none of these cars are assembled when they arrive on location.

bob stone - Doing the 2 years of service then u get free shipping back to the states right?

huh ?? dont get ya, i am signed up for 6 years tho

Yes, if you do 2 years overseas the military will ship a car back for free......BUT, you have to have all the paperwork done. So NO you still can't import a Skyline. :shakehead

huh ?? dont get ya, i am signed up for 6 years tho

I had heard that if you were in the forces for 2 years or more you can get free shipping on a vehicle per say back to the US for free on a military frigate.

I had heard that if you were in the forces for 2 years or more you can get free shipping on a vehicle per say back to the US for free on a military frigate.

Yeah, it's true if you serve 2 years overseas.........but that doesn't exempt you from cutoms, EPA, DOT etc.

Yeah, it's true if you serve 2 years overseas.........but that doesn't exempt you from cutoms, EPA, DOT etc.

Yes I know that.

well looks like celm is gone maby, \

had a question, since this area has the most importing topics on the board, been looking thru ri's and also emailed a few, no one emailed me back does any one here know how hard it would be to import a 89 mr2 turbo , thought it might be easy cause they sell mr2's in the states and the one i got has almost the same motor as the one in the states ( 2nd gen motor with 220 hp not the 3rd gen with 245 hp )

well looks like celm is gone maby, \

had a question, since this area has the most importing topics on the board, been looking thru ri's and also emailed a few, no one emailed me back does any one here know how hard it would be to import a 89 mr2 turbo , thought it might be easy cause they sell mr2's in the states and the one i got has almost the same motor as the one in the states ( 2nd gen motor with 220 hp not the 3rd gen with 245 hp )



the best thing would be to contact an ICI about that sort of thing. they would know the specifics about how to go about importing one, but the easiest and cheapest way would be to just do a front clip swap + firewall and dash. but an ICI would tell you exactly how to get one in.


EDIT: talking to the NHSTA/DOT directly wont do much, just because RHD vehicles are automatically out of the question when it comes to importation.

well looks like celm is gone maby, \

had a question, since this area has the most importing topics on the board, been looking thru ri's and also emailed a few, no one emailed me back does any one here know how hard it would be to import a 89 mr2 turbo , thought it might be easy cause they sell mr2's in the states and the one i got has almost the same motor as the one in the states ( 2nd gen motor with 220 hp not the 3rd gen with 245 hp )

Its an 89 I think they would be leanant but it is a mid engine so I'm not sure but the R.I that I know does toyota's, mazdas an mitsu's.

pick a state to base you idea on ( another post you said state matters ??) lets say texas , and tell us how you can do it.

Well there is Idaho or Ohio they dont have emissions or anything so they are legal there.

what ri do you know of jcsaleen ?

what ri do you know of jcsaleen ?

A guy who's by me in NY just email me and ill give you the details just click my sig where it says email lol.

bob email me at [email protected]

evolution Ehh Heard about you guys a while back...

Found it -

EvolutionImports.com and Japimportsusa.com are two known scam sites.

The first sign is that the only address on the website is a PO Box, something anyone can go to the Post Office and get. They list no physical address for you to go to and confirm their business license.

Second, any importer of non-US vehicles must be a Registered Importer (RI) with the NHTSA and DOT. Here's the list of registered importers:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules...st07142004.html
There is no RI by the name of Evolution Imports or any RI in Orlando for that matter.

Third, they claim to be able to import JDM Integras, Evos, Suburus, etc. Since they are JDM models, they are RHD. NHTSA has a list of non-US vehicles eligible for importation:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules...ELIG071404.html
If you read that, RHD models are identified on the list. There is only one RHD vehicle on the list as elgible, the Skyline, which Motorex can do. So Evolution Imports is making false claims to import street legal JDM Evos, etc.

Lastly, always check with the Better Business Bureau before dealing with an unknown business, especially on the internet. Here's what comes up when you check on Evolution Imports:
http://www.orlando.bbb.org/nis/news...733000012002719

Notice again, no physical address recorded. Also, read under Customer Experience:
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaint(s).

This is a dead give away of an internet scam site. If you do give them money, where are you going to go to get it back if they never answer you? Nowhere, since you have no physical address.

I looked on the nhtsa website and it says the nissan skyline can be imported.

lol ya celm must of figured out we PAWNED him, :P
I also reported that evo import site to nhtsa

well jcsaleen
goto www.evo-ny.com
and ask them about me.before you talk about companies you have no idea about
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/celm74/1.jpg

I also reported that evo import site to nhtsagood you reported.i bet NHTSA has better stuff to do then go after my web site

Actually its there job so yeah they will.

Celm I thought you wernt going to post any more, I almost had a little respect for you, but then you went and posted again, :P just cant hold back huh keep telling us how you illegaly import jdm cars, does you boss know you telling so many people this :P

was woundring why this thread went from 5 pages to 4 all of a sudden

also noticed you went from 50 + posts to 47 ??? gee did you finaly relize you are screwing your self over here ??? think the moderators dont still have a copy of thoes posts where you where bragging about how you illegaly imported cars ??and of course you arnt worryed about the NHTSA that is why you deleted only the posts that mattered huh ??
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well jcsaleen
goto www.evo-ny.com
and ask them about me.before you talk about companies you have no idea about
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/celm74/1.jpg

Great! Big deal a 7 whoooop deee dooooo! haha if you think its an accomplishment its not try getting an S13 an R33 or Jz into the states then lets see what happens to your "import business". JW - Where do you ship your cars for the testing? And how long does it take? What 3 key things the Gov looks at besides emissions when they clear a car for llegality? So whos your boss that signs the clearance for it to be on us roads?