Big Block V8

I personaly don't see anything wrong with Nissian putting a V8 into the American verision Skyline. There is nothing wrong with a V8. What I don't want is Nissian putting the Q45's engine into the Skyline. What they should do is design a completely new engine based on teh curent one. That way you still get the unlimited supercharging preasure and the torque of a big block.

chaces are that the skyline will be fucked for this generation at least, about the V8, i dont know, i rather have a 6 cilinder that can catch 1,360hp than a more gas consuming 8 with a max of about 900hp

I know what your saying. But I mean what if Nissian just made the I6 into a V8 where the only difference is that it is a V8. Still have the turbos and still can reach 1600 plus horses.

it is imposible maybe an inline 8 but the hood would have to be 6 feet long and it would weight much more, what ever it is i just hope they dont fucked up

You can put a V8 in a Skyline just don't call it a GTR. There are many non RB26DETT Skylines out there, they just arent called Skyline "GTR's". However when you see "GTR" after Skyline then the only thing that should be under the hood is the RB26. If the RB26 must die, then so should the proud GTR.

Hear ye hear ye....Long live the RB26 DETT.

Ya, It's not like you can get 5000hp out of a V8:rolleyes:

A V8 will kick a I6 ass no matter what. I do not care how moderen the engine is. If you have the money, it's all about the CUBES, and the knowledge to be able to tune it. Just remember there are a buttload of V8s into the 7s and lower. How many I6 can say that.

I agree with the cubes and the I6 part of your post.

Hmmm...

I seem to recall a R&T or MT awhile back where they tested the Ford and Chevy show Boss Mustang and Camaro....both were NA V8's, and although I don't recall the horsepower numbers, I do remember this...

Although they didn't test 0-60 times, they took them during the 1/4 mile runs.....the camaro got to 60 in 2.2 seconds! Impressed? Well, the 'stang broke the 2 second barrier with a 1.9 second 0-60! Oh, yeah....and they also had a picture of two parallel lines of flames....you guessed it, "burning rubber".

Are you sure about those 60 times. They are lower than the Vemon 800's.

They were big blocks, right? Like I said, it's all about the cubes, and the ability to apply the power to the ground.

I love the ability the RB26DETT has for up grades, but dollar for dollar it would be easier to get the power out of a V8(ford,chevy,mopar).

The more common the engine the bigger the market for it, which in turn means cheaper to upgrade, therefore if the new GT-R gets a V8 the price for quality internal parts will be outragiously priced to be able to achieve enormous power numbers we have seen from the RB26DETT. We all now that upgrading the RB26DETT is not cheap, imagine a new V8. With that being said, I hope they keep the I6, but if they put a V8 in it that's cool as well. I will still be looking for an R33 with an RB26DETT.

We all have our own opinion on what the new Skyline should have and look like, but when it comes right down to it, it's not just the engine that makes the car, it's the whole package.

It would be expensive but for the people who aren't filthy rich they want to keep their cars street legal and want the engine to last at least 4 years. A 1000 horse Skyline is not going to be street legal and the enigne is probably not going ot last more than a couple of races.

I tend to think that anything over 700hp is really pushing it on the street. Yes, you can drive it, but it will have it's moments of being a pain in most cases.

I total agree with you Whitebread.

I think a 450bhp 5.0 liter DOHC V8 TT would do the job nicely. An I8 might be kinda' weird to the American market (or maybe not) but I think they should keep the turbos in it. The Turbo is the soul of the GT-R, or it was I guess. But haven't you guys thought of a V10? The new M5/M6 is supposes to be a 5-6 liter V10. The GT-R was always a bigger car like the M5.

I hear that the American GT-R will have a V8 and an I6 that is about aliter larger than the current engine. They say it will have 400+ ponies. I think it will have about as much as a Viper. The V8 is suposted to come from the Q45 so it will have around 350 horses.

From the August issue of Automotive Magazine page 58: (not exact)

"M1 Coupe Only. 2.2-liter direct-injection four cylinder engine, producing about 225 hp. Likely launch 2005."
"M roadster and M compact. The engine is an all-new 3.2-liter direct-injection in-line six, producing 300 hp. The roadster goes on sale in 2007; the not-for-U.S. M coupe compact has yet to be confirmed." (screwed in the US again)
"M3. Under the hood will lurk a new 4.5-liter direct-injection V-8, producing about 400 hp. Likely launch in 2006."
"M5. Powered by an all-new 5.0-liter V-10 engine, good for 500 hp. On sale in 2004."

The Skyline has been compared by many to the BMW M3 which I feel is about right, so a V-8 putting out 450 hp would be "Class leading" in the eye's of Ghosn. The thing to me is not "what" kind of engine the GT-R will have, but whether or not they will use the XVL platform and downgrade the GT-R the same way they did to all the other Skyline's?! Way to be original Nissan.:flipa:

From an opinion made by an American writer about Lotus' plan to market it's new car in a big way in the US, I gather that America does not need another sports car. Even if it does, it'd mean a convertible. The hot seller in the US are apparently the Boxter, Corvette and the Miata all of which are convertibles. Apparantly it would be hard to breach this American attitude towards sports cars. Can the R35 than sell in the US regardless of the engine type? Assuming it will come with new V8 or whatever other concoction Nissan may come up with, will it really sell to justify the cost outlay? Will there be a ready reception for the R35 from the Americans (other than members of this forum)? The way I see it, if things are so uncertain in the US about the R35 GTR, Nissan should not spend millions to pander to the US market at the same time increasing the cost and affecting it's niche market in Asia and to a certain extent, Europe. In short, why must I change my dressing and attitude to please other girls who may or may not like me when I already have a handful of girls who are ga ga about me already and who may not like the new me?:rolleyes:
There is only one way to do it. Nissan should firstly sell the GTR image in the US. Make it known and appreciated as they are and not as what they will be in the future. Endear it to the American public. Make it an object of desire. Look at the EVOs and WRXs. Their frolic in the WRC make them well known and desired so much so the public await their arrival with bated breath. So, the GTR ought to be enterd in popular races in the US - Daytona, for example. Do it for 5 years on the row. Whup the asses of the Vettes/Vipers/Porsches and what have you in that period. After all, the GTR became desired in Asia because of it's performance in the JGTCC and Bathurst, which have a large followings in Asia. In the Far East and Australia, the GTR, due to those races, have this image of a beast which would eat up anything with 4 wheels and move on the road! I remeber way back in 1989 and the early 90s I used to imagine a car which is bigger than life...the GTR. A living legend way above par. And when they banned it from Bathurst, the GTR became a ghost which is seldom seen but is always around! So much so that when I first saw a GTR in person in 1994, lurking behind my car, I trembled in my pants that I even forgot to downshift ( I was then driving a Mazda turbo) while the GTR whizzed passed me and dissapeared within nano seconds! Now that I own a GTR, I could see the same reaction from other mere mortals! Even Modena's owners tremble in their pants when they saw my GTR and other GTRs on te track! That's the image which Nissan should achieve in the US. Than they can talk about selling it in the US by the numbers. Until then, Nissan has a lot to do. And it's not about engine,chassis,look or any such crap! Thay can build a 2000 hp GTR, but until the image is implanted in the US, they can forget about selling it in the US! That's my 2 American cent's opinion.

If I had to buy through MotoRex, I would not even be considering buying a Skyline. I am on limited budget when it comes to toys. Getting stationed overseas will be the only way for me to afford "The Beast from the East". I feel sorry for the guys over here that have too spend all that extra cash just to be able to put it on the streets here in America. I really am envious of guys like Nightmare .

If you ask joe public what a skyline is, he'll say it's the veiw over the city. R33 is right about Nissan has to sale the image first, but also for most people it's a money thing. If I was staying in the states I would be in the market for a Stang, since I now I could spend $15,000 and do all the mods myself and put it into the low 11's. Now if I was a lottery winner, it would be a Skyline all the way.

I am not sure how many of you cruise the other skyline site, but I do it religiously every day. That should tell you how much I love the car, but I am also not willingly able to spend the current market value for a GT-R. I looked at the MotoRex site and they want $41,000 for a R32, but on Joss' site they have almost the same car for $15,500. Now, will I spen $15,500 for a R32 or $15,000 for a mustang that goes into the low 11s. Hands down it's the Skyline, but will I spend $41,000 for one :rolleyes:

Nissan is NOT going to make another V8 just for the Skyline. They aren't going to use the magnesium block 3.5L TT V8 from the R390, either. Forget it. The Q45's new V8 is just fine. In it's relatively mild state of tune, it already makes more power than the RB26DETT. Insiders say that the RB really makes about 320hp(as opposed to 276hp), while the V8 makes 330 NA! The RB is probably blown away on torque as well. The V8 can still be tuned to make even more power before going for forced induction. I don't think the mid to high 300hp range is out of the question. Remember, Infiniti is trying to keep the V8 quiet for the Q45, since it's a luxury car. There's certainly more power to be found, at the cost of a bit more noise. That won't be a problem for prospective GT-R owners.

I know this is a bit off topic, but sometimes it's not the cubes and cylinders that make the most torque. For some reason, the E46 M3's 3.3L I6 makes 268lb-ft of torque. It was compared by Car magazine to the Lancer Evo VII, which made 289lb-ft from a 2L I4! I think maybe it had something to do with the M3's variable valve timing, but I could be wrong.

That's very true. I play with nitro powered Rc cars and trucks and there is one very popular truck called the T-MAXX. The engine that comes with it is not that great. it produces little torque and HP. This engine is .15CI. There are other companies that make engines for the T-MAXX. One of them is OS engines. They make an engine that displaces only .12CI and it still has more torque and HP than the motor that comes with the T-MAXX.

I never had any money though, so I didn't get one. I remembered hearing about diesel-powered cars. I think the .10 diesels made as much power as a .21 or something like that.
I wanted to get one, but there weren't any track in my area, and it would have been too noisy to run in my neighborhood. But I've moved on to much bigger things, like a Maxima. I can't say it's better, b/c I never tried an R/C though.:(

R/Cs can do things that a Maxcima can't. And the other way around also. Some can do like 85 MPh now.