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Deepdog
04-17-2002, 08:26 AM
Hi im kinda new here and i have some questions.. I was wondering the 1999-2000 Civic VTI 1.6L(euro) is this the same car as the 1999-2000 Civic SI(US). same engine, same chassis? think bout have the B16A engine but im not shure.

Deepdog

Veetec
04-17-2002, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Deepdog
Hi im kinda new here and i have some questions.. I was wondering the 1999-2000 Civic VTI 1.6L(euro) is this the same car as the 1999-2000 Civic SI(US). same engine, same chassis? think bout have the B16A engine but im not shure.

Deepdog At first: Welcome to AF! Feel free to ask about everything you like to know about. :)

I´m not a Civic driver so I´m not really sure but if you´re talking about the hatchback then it should be different than our european VTi!

Deepdog
04-17-2002, 08:39 AM
im talking about the 2 door Coupé here are some pics of the SI

http://home.no.net/ronkronk/mewant/DSC01038.jpg

http://home.no.net/ronkronk/mewant/MVC-902F.jpg

http://home.no.net/ronkronk/mewant/front32434.jpg

here are the specs.

Chassis Code: EM1
Body Style: 2-Door, 5-Passenger
Interior Dimensions: ???
Safety Features: Dual front airbags
Standard Options: AM/FM/CD stereo, AC, rear defrost, alarm, remote entry, power moonroof, leather-wrapped shift knob, leather-wrapped steering wheel, cruise control
Manufacturing Locations: Marysville, OH, USA; Alliston, Canada [???]
Color Options: Electron Blue Pearl (for the SiR, only available in 1999), Flamenco Black Pearl, Milano Red, Vogue Silver Metallic (available only on 2000 SiR)

Engine: 1.6L (1594cc) inline 4, aluminum alloy block and head
Valvetrain: DOHC, four valves-per-cylinder, VTEC (Variable valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control)
Bore & Stroke: 81.0 mm x 77.4 mm
Compression Ratio: 10.2:1
Fuel/Induction System: SEFI
Redline: 8000 rpm
Rev Limiter: 8400 rpm [???]
Engine Code: b16a2
Horsepower: 160 hp @ 7600 rpm [?]
Horsepower at Wheels: 142 hp @7600 rpm
Torque: 111 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm [?]
Specific Output: 100 hp/L
Drivetrain: Front engine, front-wheel drive
Transmission: Five-speed manual
Gear Ratios: 1: 3.230:1
2: 2.105:1
3: 1.458:1
4: 1.107:1
5: 0.848:1
Final Drive: 4.40:1
EPA Fuel Economy, City/Highway: 26/31 mpg
Estimated Range, City/Highway: 309/369 miles
Tank Capacity: 10.9 gallons
Recommended Fuel: Premium unleaded (92+)

Curb Weight: 2,612 lbs
Weight Distribution F/R: 60/40
Wheelbase: 103.2 in.
Steering Type: Rack-and-pinion, power-assist
Ratio: 20.3.1
Turns, Lock to Lock: 3.6
Turning Circle: 32.8 ft.
Track F/R: 58.1 in./58.1 in.
Length: 175.1 in.
Width: 67.1 in.
Height: 54.1 in.
Ground Clearance: 5.9 in.
Weight/Power Ratio, lb/hp: 16.3/1
Cargo Capacity: 10.9 cubic ft.
Suspension:
Front: Double-wishbone, anti-roll bar
Rear: Double-wishbone with trailing link, anti-roll bar
Brakes: (ABS on Canadian SiR models)
Front: 10.7-in. vented disc
Rear: 9.4-in solid disc
Wheel Size: 15"x6" aluminum-alloy
Tires: Michelin XG-T V4 M-S, 195/55R-15

Performance:
0-30 mph: 2.7 s
0-40 mph: 4.0 s
0-50 mph: 5.4 s
0-60 mph: 7.1s
0-70 mph: 9.6 s
0-80 mph: 12.3 s
¼ mile: 15.7 s @ 88.4 mph
Braking, 60-0 mph: 150 ft.
Lateral Acceleration: .84 g
Speed through 600-ft. Slalom: 65.5 mph


The Problem is that i live in Norway and would be kinda expensive to import one from the us thats why i want to know if there is a car equal to that in europe..

AccordCE8
04-17-2002, 08:48 AM
at first... welcome to af
imo there isn't a 160 bhp civic coupe version in europe. In the netherlands there isn't one, that's what i know for sure.

Veetec
04-17-2002, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by AccordCE8
at first... welcome to af
imo there isn't a 160 bhp civic coupe version in europe. In the netherlands there isn't one, that's what i know for sure. I think the UK (and Ireland?) had a Civic Coupe VTi. At least it´s listed in Evo Magazine.

Evo Magazine:
Civic Coupe VTi (`98-`00)
- 4 cylinders with 1595 cc displacement
- 158bhp/ 7600rpm
- 113 Lb ft/ 7000rpm
- weigth: 1065kg
- 151Bhp/ ton
- 0-60mph: 8,0 seconds
- Max mph: 129

But I dunno if all numbers are correct.


I´ve got an US car magazine called " Turbo & High-Tech Performance" which says that the `99 USDM Civic Coupe Si has got about 172hp at the flywheel. Nearly 12hp more than Honda published. (Because some of the appeal of the Integra GS-R might be lost since it´s only factory rated at 170hp.) Other features of the US Civic Coupe Si are: special Si rims, strut tower bar, "Si Open-Type" headrests, a 8000rpm redline, a "Si" dash insignia, Integra brakes in the front, "Si" rear stabilizer bar...
It was available in Flamenco Black, Milano Red and Electron Blue Pearl.

So my guess is that the european Civic Coupe VTi (if there´s really existing one) may have got the same chassis like the USDM Civic Coupe Si but engine, brakes, interior, exterior,... are different.

I hope it helped a bit!:)

civic_1.6_16v
04-17-2002, 10:30 AM
Welcome to the Europe Section of AF

Dont know much about the 1999-2000 Civic's, sorry ;)

But like Veetec said "Feel free to ask about everything you like to know about." :cool:

p.s. what kind of car are you driving and do you have any pics??

00'Civic SR
04-17-2002, 11:20 AM
Welcome to AF

To answer your question, yes the 1.6VTi coupe with the B16A was sold in the UK and Ireland. I don't actually think any where sold in Ireland but you can still find them in the UK. Honda UK (http://www.honda.co.uk/used.html) has quite a few for sale in the used car section.

The trim levels are probably different between the US & UK/Ireland version but they where all made in the US (not sure exactly from when to when)

riceviking
04-17-2002, 01:12 PM
Welcome to the forum Deepdog, finally a fellow norwegian!

I'm tempted to write something in Norwegian here, but that's not god manners, unless you don't know the word or something.. :D

Where in Norway do you live? What kind of Honda do you drive? Member of any norwegian car clubs?

riceviking
04-17-2002, 01:14 PM
Okay, Oslo...*clean glasses* :D

Deepdog
04-17-2002, 03:11 PM
k tnx for all the help.. I dont Drive any car yet.. doing some research cuz i want a civic SI or a european car equal to it.. im a member of 3 different american civic forums.. and many ppl at those forums says that the vti from europe should be the same car as the SI from us.. im taking a trip to a local honda dealer this saturday to ask them about it the should know..

Deepdog

Deepdog
04-17-2002, 03:27 PM
00'Civic SR

Welcome to AF

To answer your question, yes the 1.6VTi coupe with the B16A was sold in the UK and Ireland. I don't actually think any where sold in Ireland but you can still find them in the UK. Honda UK has quite a few for sale in the used car section.

The trim levels are probably different between the US & UK/Ireland version but they where all made in the US (not sure exactly from when to when)

I found 7 civic VTI 1999 modell they look the same as the us also it says its has the same hp@rpm as the SI going to the Honda dealer just to be shure... but tnx for the help

bracer
04-17-2002, 06:28 PM
Hey another welcome here :)

I can't really help you, all I know is that there wasn't a coupé VTi in my country..
But damn those coupé's you posted are nice...

Deepdog
04-17-2002, 08:37 PM
i found some 1999 Honda Civic VTI on the uk page here is the pics

http://home.no.net/ronkronk/civicvti/VogueSilverMetalic.jpg

http://home.no.net/ronkronk/civicvti/ElectronBlue.jpg

http://home.no.net/ronkronk/civicvti/InzaRedPearl.jpg

they look so nice... :D

Goosse
04-18-2002, 01:16 AM
Welcome to AF.

The euro hatch VTi has the same engine as the US coupé Si.

Fightin'Irish
04-18-2002, 03:21 AM
Welcome aboard ;)

Make sure it is a Vti and not a 1.6 Vtec.
As far as I know, there were 3 options available to UK/Ireland:
1.6 SOHC non-vtec, 1.6 SOHC Vtec, and 1.6 DOHC Vtec. I have never seen a 1.6 DOHC Vtec (coupe) in Ireland, in fact it's quite hard to get your hands on a SOHC Vtec!

AccordCE8
04-18-2002, 04:47 AM
I never knew there was a 160 bhp civic coupe in europe... I always liked the coupe, only the lack of power was the 'problem' for me to really like it... 160 bhp... very nice : )
Does anyone know of the first generation civic coupe (about '95) has a version with a 'real engine' ? I only know of the 1.5 (105 bhp?) and 1.6 (125 bhp?).

Veetec
04-19-2002, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by AccordCE8
Does anyone know of the first generation civic coupe (about '95) has a version with a 'real engine' ? I only know of the 1.5 (105 bhp?) and 1.6 (125 bhp?). There were no other engines except these two. :(

Deepdog
04-28-2002, 06:37 AM
Well i was at honda and asked if the us Civic SI coupé was the same as the Euro Civic VTI coupé.. Its the same car only problem is that there was only sold 2 in 1999 and 1 in 2000 in norway.. so kinda hard to find.. :(

Veetec
04-28-2002, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Deepdog
Well i was at honda and asked if the us Civic SI coupé was the same as the Euro Civic VTI coupé.. Its the same car only problem is that there was only sold 2 in 1999 and 1 in 2000 in norway.. so kinda hard to find.. :( Damn it! That sux, bro. Do you have got strict laws when it´s about engine swaps or anything like that? If not you could swap a new engine in one of the easier available Civic Coupes. Or you´re going to buy one of these 1.6 SOHC VTEC versions with 125hp and put a JR supercharger on it. Should be more powerful than a Si then.

00'Civic SR
04-28-2002, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Veetec
Damn it! That sux, bro. Do you have got strict laws when it´s about engine swaps or anything like that? If not you could swap a new engine in one of the easier available Civic Coupes. Or you´re going to buy one of these 1.6 SOHC VTEC versions with 125hp and put a JR supercharger on it. Should be more powerful than a Si then.
Personally, I would go with the above. Get the D16Y8 engine and build it up and then work on a S/C or even turbo.

Veetec
04-28-2002, 10:00 AM
Originally posted by 00'Civic SR

Personally, I would go with the above. Get the D16Y8 engine and build it up and then work on a S/C or even turbo. You mean he should get the 1.6 SOHC VTEC engine? Yea, I´m sure that would be very nice with the JR S/C cause you should have more torque then than a stock 1.6 DOHC VTEC engine.

Goosse
04-28-2002, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Veetec
You mean he should get the 1.6 SOHC VTEC engine? Yea, I´m sure that would be very nice with the JR S/C cause you should have more torque then than a stock 1.6 DOHC VTEC engine.

If you have the money for it, I would go with the Jackson Racing SC on a 1.6 SOHC. Like Veetec already said, you would kill the VTi with this engine setup. But the SC are very expensive (I think their price is somewhere between 3750-5000 euro)

00'Civic SR
04-28-2002, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Veetec
You mean he should get the 1.6 SOHC VTEC engine?
Yes :) thats a good engine and I don't know why so many americans want to swap with a B series engine

I'm thinking of getting a D16Y8 engine myself. It has 125 Bhp as standard and with some mods I could have it up to 135-140 Bhp before forced induction. I'm pretty sure I could get one fairly cheap as there must be a huge amout of them in the US.

Veetec
04-28-2002, 02:55 PM
And there is a lot of other stuff from JR available to make the S/C even better and the car even faster! :D

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