2004 srt4 with a problem...HELP!

Hey! I have a question...I have an Apex'i turbo timer installed in my srt4 and ive had it for about 1.5 mths now. in the last 2 days, my car has been "jumping" in 1st, 2nd and 3rd, almost like i'm just learning how to drive a stick and when it idols, it goes from like 750 rpm to 1300 down to 500 back up to 1000......it has 16,700 miles on it and im the only owner. i haven't driver her hard and the wierd thing is is that when i get on her to go, it doens't drive bad.....i dont know what it could possibly be. its not fuel related, and i disconnected the ground wire for my turbo timer and it's still acting up.....any thoughts?????

The RPM's jumping could be a electrical gremlin lurking in the engine. Bad grounds, exposed wires, maybe even check the spark plugs and wires. I doubt it's the plugs or wires, being so new, but you never know.

its your TPS. on the throttle body, there are several wires connected. jiggle those and it will do the same thing. it is very common at around 10,000 miles. everythign settles and starts having problems. take it into the dealership and you will be fine. they will replace the sensors and you will be back on the road in a day

its your TPS. on the throttle body, there are several wires connected. jiggle those and it will do the same thing. it is very common at around 10,000 miles. everythign settles and starts having problems. take it into the dealership and you will be fine. they will replace the sensors and you will be back on the road in a day

OKAY, SO MY TURBO TIMER IS UNGROUNDED, BUT THE WIRES ARE STILL CONNECTED TO THE O2 SENSOR. THAT MEANS THAT IT'S TECHNICALLY NOT WORKING, BUT, IF IT WAS THE O2 SENSOR, WOULDN'T MY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT BE ON? I WAS DRIVING IT YESTERDAY AND IT CUT OFF ON ME!! I DONT' KNOW WHATS WRONG, BUT IM GETTIN MAD!! WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW?

first thing. never wire anything to your first o2 sensor, plumb it to your downstream one, the first might cause an error in the computer (all it will do is throw an engine light). if its pluged into your primary o2 sensor, disconnect it and plug it into the second one. then take it down, i still am willing to bet its your TPS

first thing. never wire anything to your first o2 sensor, plumb it to your downstream one, the first might cause an error in the computer (all it will do is throw an engine light). if its pluged into your primary o2 sensor, disconnect it and plug it into the second one. then take it down, i still am willing to bet its your TPS

Okay---so the secondary o2 sensor is the one under the airbox right? cuz if so, that's the one it's hooked up to. I took my car to the dealership this morning and told them that I was told it would be the TPS that's going bad, so I'll let you know later on today what they told me. What all have you done to your SRT-4? I'm kinda interested to know :)

okay, so the dealership said my "rev-limiter" has been disconnected. what the hell? i dont even know what a rev limiter is!!! and they also told me that the turbo timer can void my warranty. is that true considering it's not really hooked up to anything warranty-able? damn this sucks :mad:

the TT can not void your warranty, plain and simple. if they tell you that, they are lying to you. and if they do, its breaking the law.

the secondary o2 housing is located after your catalytic converter in your exhaust pipe. thats where you want to plumb it.

there is no way, on the srt4, to disconnect your revlimiter. in fact, if there was, i would love to know how to do it. i need 500-1000 more rpm to play with!!! and i know i wouldnt be the only one interested. your dealership is lying to you. ask them how you removed it? i really want to know

my srt is pretty basic: stage 3 coilovers, hotchkis swaybars, dcsport strut bars, prothane bushings everywhere, mopar short throw shifter, wilwood big brake kit on the front, powerslot rotors on back with hawk pads, 18" ICW bronze wheels w/ 235/40/18 tires, AEM intake, custom 3" turbo back exhaust, mopar stage 1 computer, mopar blow off valve, crane cams, fidanza cam gears, greddy turbo timer.

and im waiting on a couple of things, including a big intercooler, custom clutch w/ lighten flywheel, and stage 3 turbo assembly to be used with AEM EMS computer system

okay, so the dealership said my "rev-limiter" has been disconnected.How in the world can they say that? I have never heard of anything or anyone disconnecting their rev limiter. I guess there would be a first time for anything, but that does not sound right at all.

so youre saying that the dealership is full of crap? wow......didnt see that one coming! i'll be sure to ask them how "i" removed the rev limiter. and when they tell me, ill let you know! when i picked my car up yesterday, they told me again bout the rev limiter and a mechanic was standing next to me listening to my problems. then he told me that the spark plugs and wires needed to be changed. he said that would fix my problem. that kinda pisses me off considering the car has 16,800 miles on it! shes freakin new.....y the hell would i need to change the plugs and wires already? i think the dealership is full of shit and i think that they are sheisty sob's. .... how is telling me the tt voiding my warrany is against the law? id like to throw that back in their face if you can get me some proof!! ....oh also, i disconnected the ground wire to my tt a few days ago right? and the dealership told me that when they were running the diagnostics on my car, when they "disconnected" the tt, the car ran fine and when they "connected" it back together, it ran like shit. i caught them in a bold face lie cuz I DISCONNECTED THE GROUND WIRE!! they looked me in the eyes and told me that the tt was screwin up my car and that they were the ones that disconnected it. damn they suck! the dealership also told me that they ran tests on ALL my sensors and the TPS, O2, and all that other good stuff was FINE. they said nothing went wrong with my sensors. they swear up and down i disconnected the revlimiter. i still think thats funny.....:( not really though!

its typical for the car to go through plugs and wires every 20,000 miles.

get them to put it in writting what the problem is. then you have proof and can go from there. i hate the dealership, always have. infact, my local one asks me to leave whenever i pull up. they have told me not to come back, but until my warranty is up, they cant get rid of me. get it in writting. where are you located? what dealership is giving you a hard time. if you need someoen to go down there with you, get onto srtforums.com and post there. someone will go down with you and help you out

The Magnuson vs. Moss act relates to the voiding of warranties. It states that you can pretty much do anything to your car and unless what you did or how it was done HAS been proven to cause what ever new problem you have, they can't make your warranty claim conditional unless they can provide an OEM part that's the same or equal to the aftermarket item in question. So, the next time you speak to them, tell them you read up on the Magnuson vs. Moss act that give you the right to press federal charges if they continue to make your warranty claims conditional.

BTW, I was just trying out a left over '04 srt4. This things don't sell well. Got them down to $19500 and it's only got 170 miles on it (80 of them are mine!). I just don't like the red color. Also, hate to give up 4x4 but maybe the MPG can make that change.

The Magnuson vs. Moss act relates to the voiding of warranties. It states that you can pretty much do anything to your car and unless what you did or how it was done HAS been proven to cause what ever new problem you have, they can't make your warranty claim conditional unless they can provide an OEM part that's the same or equal to the aftermarket item in question. So, the next time you speak to them, tell them you read up on the Magnuson vs. Moss act that give you the right to press federal charges if they continue to make your warranty claims conditional.

BTW, I was just trying out a left over '04 srt4. This things don't sell well. Got them down to $19500 and it's only got 170 miles on it (80 of them are mine!). I just don't like the red color. Also, hate to give up 4x4 but maybe the MPG can make that change.

The Magnuson vs. Moss act relates to the voiding of warranties. It states that you can pretty much do anything to your car and unless what you did or how it was done HAS been proven to cause what ever new problem you have, they can't make your warranty claim conditional unless they can provide an OEM part that's the same or equal to the aftermarket item in question. So, the next time you speak to them, tell them you read up on the Magnuson vs. Moss act that give you the right to press federal charges if they continue to make your warranty claims conditional.

BTW, I was just trying out a left over '04 srt4. This things don't sell well. Got them down to $19500 and it's only got 170 miles on it (80 of them are mine!). I just don't like the red color. Also, hate to give up 4x4 but maybe the MPG can make that change.

The Magnuson vs. Moss act relates to the voiding of warranties. It states that you can pretty much do anything to your car and unless what you did or how it was done HAS been proven to cause what ever new problem you have, they can't make your warranty claim conditional unless they can provide an OEM part that's the same or equal to the aftermarket item in question. So, the next time you speak to them, tell them you read up on the Magnuson vs. Moss act that give you the right to press federal charges if they continue to make your warranty claims conditional.

BTW, I was just trying out a left over '04 srt4. This things don't sell well. Got them down to $19500 and it's only got 170 miles on it (80 of them are mine!). I just don't like the red color. Also, hate to give up 4x4 but maybe the MPG can make that change.

hey--i appreciate your help! i'll be sure to tell them to kiss my ass if they decide to void my warranty!! anyway---i live in greenville, sc....the dealership where i bought the car is big 'o' dodge of greenville on the motor mile.....so if there is anyone reading this that lives in greenville, sc.....let me know so we can go there together and bitch them out! i should be getting my spark plugs and wires in from the dealership here soon...so hopefully that will solve my problem....if it persists, im going to stick with the TPS!!! and also, when i take my car back to the dealership so they can change the spark plugs and wires, im going to have them play bill nye the science guy and teach me about this rev-limiter and show me how "i" disconnected the damn thing!!!

well--i just got my car back from the dealership and yeah, the spark plugs and wires make her run a little better, but when i slow down, my rpm's go up to 2000!!! it did this before, but technically, my problem isn't fixed. i was told that maybe the cause of the high rev is a dirty egr valve? would that make sense? this is too complicated......

Does it ever idle down right? Sounds like another trip to the dealer. I've been thinking of getting an srt4 but unsure now.

it used to idle at about 850-900, but now its anywhere from damn choking (300) to 2200 rpm. its insane and im pissed. im takin the stupid thing back to the dealership again today.....i told them to keep it until it's fixed. dont get me wrong, srt4=awesome! i love her......she's just actin up. i just can't believe the dealership can't "diagnose" her......ridiculous. they think im some idiot because i'm 19 and a female....so they take everything i say with a grain of salt, but i promise you they'll regret it! ive had it with this dealership crap. i almost wanna fix it on my own.

it used to idle at about 850-900, but now its anywhere from damn choking (300) to 2200 rpm. its insane and im pissed. im takin the stupid thing back to the dealership again today.....i told them to keep it until it's fixed. dont get me wrong, srt4=awesome! i love her......she's just actin up. i just can't believe the dealership can't "diagnose" her......ridiculous. they think im some idiot because i'm 19 and a female....so they take everything i say with a grain of salt, but i promise you they'll regret it! ive had it with this dealership crap. i almost wanna fix it on my own.The rpm's jumping around actually sounds like spark plugs, but you say they replaced them. What about the wires? A dirty or clogged EGR valve, would cause your car to stall, crank slowly, but I don't know about jumping rpm's. Sounds like you may want to find another dealer, considering they told you, that you disconnected your rev limiter :rolleyes:

its the TPS i gaurentee it!!!!!! that is a very very very common srt. i cant think of one of my homies who hasnt had it (other than the brand new 05ers). take it in, make them pay for a rental car for you (thats part of your warranty) and dont accept it back til its fixed. when they have to pay, they fix it real fast

its the TPS i gaurentee it!!!!!! that is a very very very common srt. i cant think of one of my homies who hasnt had it (other than the brand new 05ers). take it in, make them pay for a rental car for you (thats part of your warranty) and dont accept it back til its fixed. when they have to pay, they fix it real fast
okay so the dealer told me today that a rental car isnt covered under my warranty.....and like i said earlier, they ran a dyno on all my sensors and they said the tps was fine......i dont know what else to tell them, but i did tell them when i dropped the car off today that i was in a rental car (actually driving my moms car) and that i needed the damn thing fixed asap. im thinkin bout takin it to another dealer in easley to get a second opinion.....they also "checked" the egr valve and said it was fine too......i think theyre bsin me.......im gettin aggrivated though and i dont know what else to do or say........but theyre still saying the rev limiter is disconnected.....thats not the problem is it?? tex----where u located?! i need YOU to come with me!! you know what your talkin about and theyd listen to you!!!! caitlyn :banghead:

haha, sorry sweetheart. im here in beautiful california. honestly, you need to log onto the srtforums.com. register there, and one of those guys (who know just as much as myself, and have had just as much experience) will be totally willing to go with you and help you out. you might also want check out another dealership. i know i specified when i got my car that i would get a rental. check your warranty, the dealer can pull that up for you about that though. i thought it was standard warranty for their 3-3600 warranty. get with a local enthusiast (on the national sartie forum) and he/she will be able to help you out. they are all great people. i love them all

big o dodge is where i just bought my car

okay---well, damn you and california!!! haha, roadtrip?! anyway---i took my car back to big o friday and said it was unacceptable and i wasnt going to take the damn thing back until they fixed it to my satisfaction (yes--i can be a bitch!). they told me that under my warranty, i didnt "purchase" the rental car thing, so whatever---im driving my moms jag (sucks to be me right?). well, they told me the car was going to be fixed that friday---service shop closes at 1730. i called at 1700 because i didnt hear anything from them and guess what the hell the f***ing problem was?!?! none other but the g*d damn tps. oh my god, am i pissed! you were right and i relayed my "knowledge" to them, and they didnt listen! i am going to take it to another dealer when i get it back (supposedly today) and see if they could ever help my with some problems i might have. on a positive note, I GOT FREE SPARK PLUGS AND WIRES! haha, i guess i wont need to change those until about 80000 miles! (also got my oil changed!) well--spyder girl, do i feel for you. big o dodge sucks and i dont care what anyone says. they are all idiots and sorry sorry people. i would take your car to mckinney on 123 in easley and talk to daniel black. he used to work at big o and he's probably the best guy out there that could help you. he'll hook you up too.......anyway, im assuming you bought an srt4? color and year??? maybe we could get together and go bullshit sometime!

oh, and tex--i tried to get onto srtforums.com a million times using different e-mail addresses and user id's and for some strange reason, it wont let me log in/on (whatever it is!). damn---im just full of problems!!!

well, i got my baby back!! she drives like a champ now. i appreciate all the help you have given me tex--ur the shit! im still gonna go to a different dealer though. i hate big o!

well, glad to hear it. check out http://www.performancesport.net. thats the place to hang out! if you have any more questions, you can catch me there. if you have a problem with your srt, or want to do somthing, one of us there have done it! i have 65000 miles on my sartie, and each of the problmes that everyone else has had, and then some, i have gone through. check us out!!!

tex--do you know of good performance 18" tires? ive got kumho ecstas on now and i need to get more, but i want some kinda tire that is great for performance.....

tex--do you know of good performance 18" tires? ive got kumho ecstas on now and i need to get more, but i want some kinda tire that is great for performance.....Dunlop Sport and Falken Azeni's are good tires!

they expensive?

oh---and my kumho's are 225-40zr-18----whats the difference between zr and just r??

oh---and my kumho's are 225-40zr-18----whats the difference between zr and just r??The "Z" is the speed rating. That is the highest it goes. It means it can handle 150MPH+ speeds.

it all depends on what your willing to spend. if your looking for a great all around tire (long life, good stick, good ride, etc) my tire of choice is the sumitomo HTRZ2 tires. they are relativley inexpensive (ok about as cheap as they come! i sell them for $125/tire in the 225/40zr18 size!), and they outstick nearly every tire in their class. i am running them in a 235/40/18 (was going to go with 245, but was worried about rubbing on the auto-x track with agressive camber), and love them! they stick like glue. the tread pattern is agressive, and they work in the wet as well as in the dry. overall, im inlove with these! and that is my recomendation!

sweetheart, you need to register over at http://www.performancesport.net. that is a much easier place to get ahold of me. as one of its founder/creators i spend most of my time and energy keeping that site up and going.

infact, if any of you want to check out a great site, hit us up! we have a lot of fun. i want/need more tech advice, and just more members. check us out, and look for my own tech articles!

okay --- question about bov.......i have heard that hks isn't worth a crap......my best friend has the hks ssq on his and it sounds pretty hot......ive always liked the turboxs rfl myself and want to get that one......but i have also heard bad things about that bov. any input? havent heard anything bad about greddy (yet).......

aftermarket BOV's for the srt are expensive! you have to buy a block off plate for the factory surgevalve, a repalcement up-pipe (between intercooler and throttle body) with flange, then the BOV itself. i like the GReddy, or the HKS personally

well---im fixin to buy his hks......ive got the block off plate and a perrin upper charge pipe (i also got a cai for shits and giggles too.....).....besides helping the turbo spool up quicker, does the charge pipe add much horsepower??

nope, its sole purpose is to allow you to bolt on a BOV. in theroy, a hard pipe will prevent flexing/stretching of the factory rubber line. but in all honesty, the rubber doesnt expand too much, so there wont be any real gains.

not new to this site just new to posting you guys have given me a lot of help on here just reading your answers.....but this my last problem i had the 04 srt4 for a year now, and since the second month ive been through all kinds of parts....my car has not stopped bogging, almost stalling but not actually stalling, and loss of boost was spiking at 21 and holding tightly through out around 19 til redline ran great.....since then i have had it in the performance shop in milford CT well known PRUVEN PERFORMANCE and well not so good anymore, they first looked at it last year said it was the tps wiring....so they FIXED not replaced it they said and all i see there is they put a little bit of black rubbery glue on the wires on the back of the plug to basically keep them from sliding out of the plug as i touched one th is morning and it slides right now anyways......so im guessing that is my main problem, its throwing misfire codes since day one, and when they fixed it that first time 3 weeks later it happened again and i went back to them and they said the sensor is fine its the plugs which were just changed about 2000 miles before and they looked brand new and i checked the gaps they were all even and perfect gap.....iriduim plugs ngk.....so after that they said the loss of boost is a coupler, sound familair or right at all? i dont think so but they changed them and it ran fine for a week before back to the same shitty condition but they alos said my wastegate actuator is bad, i have an AGP in there and it is rusted enough tht you cant adjust it at all so they ordered that part 7 months ago!!!! supposedly never came in but i took it upon myself to order a new one since its simple to install.......that should come in monday or tuesday, along with some new wires from msd, i just installed the following, msd coil , new cold air intake full....., new weapon rcoolant reserve can cause the stock one melted from the turbo heat and motor etc it was bound to happen with the sheilds gone, i bought the car used with 56000 miles so, replaced that and also new hoses along with a 185 degree thermostat, manual boost controller, stage 1 pcm....its ok 04 its the got injectors.....walboro 255 lph pump.....mopar blow off valve....blue aluminum catch can....mopar exhaust.....injen down pipe.....cat delete......theres more but off the top of my head thats the main ones, not including black powdercoated stock rims....mopar 3d taillights....glow shift voltage gauge along with a system sub amps caps and components but that plays no part in the running of the car lol so anyways now for the problem it still bogs like to stall but doesnt along with maybe 9 lbs of boost and i dont drive it hard at all due to prob break something else with my luck but thats all i get before it sputters....the day that happened the wastegate didnt make anymore noise or release anyair out cause i had no blow off valve at first but sounded like i had one and i guess the wastegate releases the air making a similair noise but not as loud but thats gone too the same time so im guessing the wastegate failure could cause this, i took it out and its loose as can be and bounces around does that sound normal for an AGP wastegate actuator? anyways other than that everything i put in fixed most of the problems along the way except the bogging and loss of boost which honestly defeats the whole purpose of me buying this car in the first place lol ....anyways car was dynoed at the shop and came to have 294 horse dont remember the torque and the slip is in the car so dont feel like going back outside its windy and freezing and was out there today messing with the tps and it was making a huge difference back and forth moving the wires so just for reassurance i bought the tps replacement wiring kit for it should be here in a few days this week so did i make the right move or anything else i can test out or try? you guys helped me build this thing so far everything i did i got the info from here so your the experts haha let me know any help is appreciated and even easier if you could email me or Im me at saturn82783@ yahoo or also Im me at saturn82783 @ aim either or...thanks Justin.....

sorry its so long i guess i got carried away trying to answer anything you might ask after replying so sorry lol

sorry its so long i guess i got carried away trying to answer anything you might ask after replying so sorry lol
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