V8 conversion

Ok, I sure a lot of you have seen the conversion kit for the Focus to swap in a 4.6L or 5.0L V8. It's been my understanding that this conversion is only for Foci up to '04. Would the conversion kit apply to the '05 as well?

I can't remember how different the chassis are for the two cars...I know that they aren't too different, but if you're serioulsy considering this, then call a dealer to check.

the frames are the some the only thing that changed is parts on the body

i wonder if it works in a sedan lol that would be sweet

turbo it and give it a good autoX suspention, will cost less give better milage and both out acceperate and handel a focus w/ a v8 swap.

the guy at ford that developed the v8 swap should be shot this was the dumbest idea ever.

that is not the point the point is that the V8s sound a hell of alot better then the fours, or the six, and you can get more power out of a V8, and you can still get just as good handling with a rwd, as a fwd, with four wheel indepentant suspention, and no he should not be shot, and the sedan would be better for it i think, and what are u saying that a built four, would beat a built dohc V8 in the same car,ok.

you want a v8 then putting it in a focus is still a dumb idea

for the price you can have a foxbody or sn95 running alot faster

why

that is not the point the point is that the V8s sound a hell of alot better then the fours or the six and you can get more power out of a V8 and you can still get just as good handling with a rwd as a fwd with four wheel indepentant suspention and no he should not be shot and the sedan would be better for it i think and what are u saying that a built four would beat a built dohc V8 in the same car ok

Periods and commas are your friend...your use of them will make reading messages bearable for the rest of us.

better.

I agree with Zx,
What idiot would want to stick a lightweight v8 into a small 4 cyl., good handling car? :screwy: Besides Carroll Shelby, or John Colletti, or anyone who swapped a Rover aluminum block 4l v8 into their MG-Bs in the 70s and 80s? Or 302s into the Sunbeam Alpine? There is no substitute for displacement, and as I'm a guy who really likes small cars and 4-cyl ones in particular, that should be saying something. You can get the same power from a 4, I won't dispute that, and the sacrifice you make to handling is something to consider, but being able to light up the rear tires and hand a Mustang Gt or a C6 Corvette its walking papers in a Focus would certainly be sweet at the stop light wouldn't it! :smokin:
Have a good weekend, and remember to take a moment tomorrow to reflect on the sacrifices made on our behalf by our Veterans and Fallen.

you can still make a great handling rwd,like the vett,rx8,911,and other sports cars. you can slide the ass end around corners, you can drift better, you can keep more weight on the drive tires for better take-offs,

and how much money would yo have spent just to do the same thing that a guy that just went and got a good turbo kit can do?

I dont care if you can say "hey its got a v8" ill still think you just a dumbass.

It's not just a turbo kit, though. To build it properly you're looking at lower compression heads, billet rods, new exhaust, new intake, bigger throttle body, new cams,LS diff, and a computer to make a good, RELIABLE car. Sure you could do it without all that, and while you're at it, add N2O.You'll only be replacing your engine every 2k miles. By the time you pay for all that you're not looking at a huge cost differential between the v8 conversion and the turbo. Kicking ass with 4 cyl. definitely has it's appeal, but it's not THAT much cheaper if you do it right. For a conversion you did yourself, you would be looking realistically at about $10-$20k with engine. Turbo kit with above, say $10k.

A little reading material.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0404scc_focus/index.html

you can drop in a 4.6 dohc, from a 99, mustang that has stock hp of 335, and 370 tq, and drop on a supercharger and get 390 hp, and 390 tq, and you wouldnt spend no 20,thousand dollars, maybe around 7 to 8 k, and if you build all the shit and,do it yourself, get a donor stang with that motor,computer,wiring, and everything else it would be even cheaper. you can also get the independent rear out of a 99 stang......

The Ford Racing conversion kit is in the neighborhood of $15,000 I believe...remember, it isn't just a case of dropping a motor, trans and rear axle in, the chassis needs to be stiffened significantly to take that torque.

yeah 15k + focus cost.

for 10k turbo setup you can make over 320whp and then have 5k to invest in suspention or more motor work.

that way you can run autoX, then 1/4 same day then turn down the boost and get about 30mpg on the way home.

A little reading material.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0404scc_focus/index.html


$65,000

and it ran high 12's? and a 1.02g? LMFAO thats SAD

ok i can go grab a zx2 from a lot for 6k and under 2k in suspenion have 1.0+G

Then I can go get a nice turbo kit spend 10-12k and then go run a 12s in it.

What does that teach you? 20k invested in i4 > 65k v8 swap

for the other 40K i could also give it a nice leather interior and a new paint job with money to spare.

yea sure if you want the same as everbody else,you can make your own cradle for the V8,and build all the other shit yourself, you wont even come close to fucking 65k,why would you want a zx2, i think they are ugly and slow, and i have never heard a s/r, what does s/r stand for anyways.

i am looking at the article about the focus with the 302,in hot rod,the kit comes comes with everything you need, but you can make everything, if you can weild, and read a tape,and have any know how,you would never spend anything close to 65k,

the kit is only $5,200,that is with everything you need to put a V8 in a focus, not $15,000, your on crack

yea sure if you want the same as everbody else,you can make your own cradle for the V8,and build all the other shit yourself, you wont even come close to fucking 65k,why would you want a zx2, i think they are ugly and slow, and i have never heard a s/r, what does s/r stand for anyways.

Street/Race - made to compete w/ the Neon ACR
Escort ZX2 that came w/ every Ford Racing part(available as of 1999) run 15.4 in the 1/4 and is in the same handeling class as the SVT Focus, just costs 2k less.(15-16k depending on markup)

Slow?
ZX2 was the fastest car under 20k in 1998 and cost 13k(untill the 18k 1999 Si came out, since the s/r was such a limited run they didnt test it)

Stock for stock a ZX2 will out handle and accelerate a stock ZX3
Why?
More agressive cams, 100lbs less weight and better gearing.
and more importantly NONE of the recalls.

you think a zx2 is slow? thats pathetic cuz its the same motor thats in the 98+ contour with differnt cam specs, and the same as a Focus w/ basicly just a differnt head.

still an ugly ass car

still an ugly ass car

Dude the body design was based on the Contour.

apperance is all opinion based. So your basicly saying you have no valid argument.

Besides I have to concider the source:
Contour owner that thinks his car that is electronicly limited to 112mph will do 115mph @ high 15's while basicly just having an intake.

No one can take anything you say seriously on this forum after reading the last thread you were in. You only troll and either know nothing of cars or your a ricer...... well I guess that's the same thing.

oh and for the slow comment:

autochannel rated your car:
0-60 MPH 9.7 seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 17.9 seconds @ 82 mph

autochannel rated the zx2:
0 to 60 MPH 7.4 seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.7 seconds @87 mph

HA

where did you get that a stock zx2 gets a 1/4 time of 15.7 cause it is not, it is closer to 17 seconds @85 mph, and 0 to 60 is 9 seconds, on a 99 zx2 stock at autochannel.com

Dude the body design was based on the Contour.

apperance is all opinion based. So your basicly saying you have no valid argument.

Besides I have to concider the source:
Contour owner that thinks his car that is electronicly limited to 112mph will do 115mph @ high 15's while basicly just having an intake.

No one can take anything you say seriously on this forum after reading the last thread you were in. You only troll and either know nothing of cars or your a ricer...... well I guess that's the same thing.

oh and for the slow comment:

autochannel rated your car:
0-60 MPH 9.7 seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 17.9 seconds @ 82 mph

autochannel rated the zx2:
0 to 60 MPH 7.4 seconds
1/4 mile (E.T.) 15.7 seconds @87 mph

HAthats the time for the ATX zetec. AFAIK he has a manual duratec, which is right about 15.7-15.9 with a very good driver.

oh and badasstour, the auto zx2 runs in the 17s not the manual

really I know many guys that have actually done better then 15.7 with a stock zx2 lol

sk8ter_in_ny:
I pulled that time from the review of the v6 Contour, the review of the i4 contour was actually a faster time. LoL

LOL

atx zetecs are SLUGS

ATX duratec is the same as a MTX zetec

and MTX duratec is faster then both

ther weight and power curve were fuxored by ford, they have the potential to make 140+hp with just a good timing and a/f but ford doesnt do SHIT when it comes to giving cars the timing they need, ive seen a zx2 break 126whp with just tuning the timing and a/f changed on a chip.that would make it about 150crank HP

its not the motor really, its the slushbox autos ford produces

yeah im talking about manual.

just a side noe back to the V8 Focus, you know why the thread was started, now Motor trend did a test of a V8 Focus against a lamborghini (Aug. 04) in this piticularcar they used the Cammer V8 (450 hp and 365 tq) ran 60 in 4.4 and the 1/4 mile in 12.7which is a tenth slower to 60 than the Gallardo and 2 thenths slower in the 1/4 mile, but on the tack they tested them on it pulled 1 sec faster lap time (1:32.43 vs. 1:33.42) so who says you cant take it to the trackand kick some ass, now in my mind the coolest thing about this car is driving down the street and having the V8 rumble, or doing a Burnout and seeing people gawk as they notice the smoke coming from the Rear tires, now everyone is saying why spend the money, well you could make a Civic faster than an enzo for less money than an Enzo costs, or make a Geo faster than a Lotus for less, but then, why, in the end one guy is just like 1/2 the other people out there with a tuned Focus and the other guy is unique with a V8 and RWD one thing that people tend to forget is that the whole tuner scene was started because people wanted to be unique, and the 7.4 sec run to 60 is accurate i could dig through my m.t. stash and find a refrence but it seems kinda pointless, but have a good one all

thats what i was trying to say but these kids dont think that way and dont listen to people with age under there belt thats all i got to say about that

thats what i was trying to say but these kids dont think that way and dont listen to people with age under there belt thats all i got to say about thatso just because we're youger we know nothing?

no i didnt say that, i said that you didnt listen, its like with my car,cause most tours when i park and you rev it up,the limiter kicks in around 4000rpms, mine goes up to the red line, something might of been done to my car,but i didnt do anything,exept exhaust,and filter,and tore apart the constrected air intake,and thats all,so my car is different

no i didnt say that, i said that you didnt listen, its like with my car,cause most tours when i park and you rev it up,the limiter kicks in around 4000rpms, mine goes up to the red line, something might of been done to my car,but i didnt do anything,exept exhaust,and filter,and tore apart the constrected air intake,and thats all,so my car is different


LOL ok thats bullshit lol the manual PCM has no way to tell what gear you are in, and will let you rev out to just Past redline NOW MATTER WHAT

now on an AUTOMTIC it MAY limit the revs when not moving. that is because the PCM DOES control the tranny, and cna sence what gear you are in


Im realsy startign to wonder if you really know anyhtign aobut how electronics in cars work, ive been wokring on small fords(escorts, contours, foci, and probes) for years. I am even a member of Contour, escort and foci clubs. I KNOW what is in these cars. You obviously DONT.

How many 3.0 swaps have you done?
How many Zetecs.Duratecs have you built?
How many MTX75 trannies have you pulled and rebuilt?

I may be 22 but i know these cars much better then you do.

i have a auto dumbass

i have a auto dumbass

you have an auto w/o even basic bolt-ons as still claim 15's?

thats the FUNIEST thing ive ever heared it must take you a good 18sec just to do 78mph let alone 115mph. lol

ok
go smoke some rocks

I know more about your car then you do. I think you need to go read a few Contour websites and learn about your car.

ok bud

your car runs low 16s at best.

auto w/ exaust and intake?
try mid 16's on a great day, it takes full boltons + custom chip and part striped interior for an auto zx2 to run CLOSE to a 16.0, and he no where near that , hes more like a 16.7 if lucky.

they run mid 16s stock

they run mid 16s stock

There is no way, not even a Mustang auto tranny only shaves .8sec

I have never seen a Ford auto that efficent

uhh?

5sp duratec runs 15.7-15.9- auto duratec runs 16.4-16.6

5 sp zetec runs 16.5-16.7 auto zetec high 17s or above

5 spd zx2 15.7-16
auto zx2 low-mid 17's


5spd focus mid-low 16's
auto mid-high 17's

im talking contour

and im talking ford autos being known for being VERY parasidic