question,... or maby a request.
fierojapan
05-27-2005, 08:15 AM
Ok while I may be new to this forum I am not all that new to how things work in the U.S. so please don’t turn this in to a thread where every one claims moterex is the only way.
Now it's my understanding that there are some higher ups from some of the registered importers that are registered to the forum and have made some remarks to some threads here in skyline land, or I believe this is right. so what I am looking for from this thread is an opportunity to ask some questions that might in some way help to bring down the import cost of skylines to some of the want-full skyline community.
Q 1.
In regards to vehicles manufactured after 1995-1996? (I.E. R34's) and the OBDII engine management that I have read that are required. Are these vehicles required to be manufactured with OBDII or can they be retrofitted with a pre-conforming system?
Q 2.
not to jeopardize moterx's confidentiality with the NHTSA regarding there modifications to the car but would it be possible for those of us who have the time with these cars and the ability to do so, maybe a reduced cost pending some smaller modifications made by the customer. After doing much research I have come to the conclusion that some things like changing mirrors, gauges, headlights, reflectors. ect. ect... can be done by the customer and then verified by the R.I. to show conformity to U.S. standards. This would help bring down your costs to some customers due to the fact that these parts are not required to be replaced by you the R.I. I am in the U.S. Air Force just stationed in Misawa Japan as of Feb 2005 and not to leave until Feb 2008 this would give me almost three years to do what I can to the car myself. Also by reducing cost it might also help with more initiave for those who already have illegal skylines in to have the legalization performed.
Now it's my understanding that there are some higher ups from some of the registered importers that are registered to the forum and have made some remarks to some threads here in skyline land, or I believe this is right. so what I am looking for from this thread is an opportunity to ask some questions that might in some way help to bring down the import cost of skylines to some of the want-full skyline community.
Q 1.
In regards to vehicles manufactured after 1995-1996? (I.E. R34's) and the OBDII engine management that I have read that are required. Are these vehicles required to be manufactured with OBDII or can they be retrofitted with a pre-conforming system?
Q 2.
not to jeopardize moterx's confidentiality with the NHTSA regarding there modifications to the car but would it be possible for those of us who have the time with these cars and the ability to do so, maybe a reduced cost pending some smaller modifications made by the customer. After doing much research I have come to the conclusion that some things like changing mirrors, gauges, headlights, reflectors. ect. ect... can be done by the customer and then verified by the R.I. to show conformity to U.S. standards. This would help bring down your costs to some customers due to the fact that these parts are not required to be replaced by you the R.I. I am in the U.S. Air Force just stationed in Misawa Japan as of Feb 2005 and not to leave until Feb 2008 this would give me almost three years to do what I can to the car myself. Also by reducing cost it might also help with more initiave for those who already have illegal skylines in to have the legalization performed.
VQuick
05-27-2005, 08:58 AM
Ok while I may be new to this forum I am not all that new to how things work in the U.S. so please don’t turn this in to a thread where every one claims moterex is the only way.
Actually, Motorex is gone, so there is no way.
Q 1.
In regards to vehicles manufactured after 1995-1996? (I.E. R34's) and the OBDII engine management that I have read that are required. Are these vehicles required to be manufactured with OBDII or can they be retrofitted with a pre-conforming system?
A retrofit can be done. However, finding a way to do it was the big holdup. I don't know if anyone other than Motorex was working on getting it done. I think Tyndago said there was at least one post-'96 car that had OBDII fitted.
Q 2.
not to jeopardize moterx's confidentiality with the NHTSA regarding there modifications to the car but would it be possible for those of us who have the time with these cars and the ability to do so, maybe a reduced cost pending some smaller modifications made by the customer. After doing much research I have come to the conclusion that some things like changing mirrors, gauges, headlights, reflectors. ect. ect... can be done by the customer and then verified by the R.I. to show conformity to U.S. standards. This would help bring down your costs to some customers due to the fact that these parts are not required to be replaced by you the R.I. I am in the U.S. Air Force just stationed in Misawa Japan as of Feb 2005 and not to leave until Feb 2008 this would give me almost three years to do what I can to the car myself. Also by reducing cost it might also help with more initiave for those who already have illegal skylines in to have the legalization performed.
Since Motorex isn't around, you still run into the problem of just finding out what the other needed modifications are(they may have taken the information with them), then finding someone to perform them.
Actually, Motorex is gone, so there is no way.
Q 1.
In regards to vehicles manufactured after 1995-1996? (I.E. R34's) and the OBDII engine management that I have read that are required. Are these vehicles required to be manufactured with OBDII or can they be retrofitted with a pre-conforming system?
A retrofit can be done. However, finding a way to do it was the big holdup. I don't know if anyone other than Motorex was working on getting it done. I think Tyndago said there was at least one post-'96 car that had OBDII fitted.
Q 2.
not to jeopardize moterx's confidentiality with the NHTSA regarding there modifications to the car but would it be possible for those of us who have the time with these cars and the ability to do so, maybe a reduced cost pending some smaller modifications made by the customer. After doing much research I have come to the conclusion that some things like changing mirrors, gauges, headlights, reflectors. ect. ect... can be done by the customer and then verified by the R.I. to show conformity to U.S. standards. This would help bring down your costs to some customers due to the fact that these parts are not required to be replaced by you the R.I. I am in the U.S. Air Force just stationed in Misawa Japan as of Feb 2005 and not to leave until Feb 2008 this would give me almost three years to do what I can to the car myself. Also by reducing cost it might also help with more initiave for those who already have illegal skylines in to have the legalization performed.
Since Motorex isn't around, you still run into the problem of just finding out what the other needed modifications are(they may have taken the information with them), then finding someone to perform them.
fierojapan
05-27-2005, 09:09 AM
actualy i have found most of what i need to make a skyline legal, as for the structial modifications i have a good idea, for epa standards i havent started looking yet. if i understand the rules corectly the crash data has already been done and is avalible public so that should provide for a start for other R.I.'s...
nismo_power
05-27-2005, 02:41 PM
life > you
fierojapan
05-27-2005, 07:36 PM
ok maby i should'nt have been so general in my origonal post. i wasn't asking moterex specificaly, i was asking those regestered importers who are going to try become legal skyline importers. i know motorex is no more.
alex4nder
05-28-2005, 04:25 PM
Q 1.
In regards to vehicles manufactured after 1995-1996? (I.E. R34's) and the OBDII engine management that I have read that are required. Are these vehicles required to be manufactured with OBDII or can they be retrofitted with a pre-conforming system?
They can be retrofitted. I wrote a paper about it:
http://www.andern.org/alexander/papers/skylineobd2/skylineobd2.pdf
... and have a prototype of the hardware/software in the works. So far all the R&D work is happening in my spare time, so I have no timetable for when it's going to be ready.
In regards to vehicles manufactured after 1995-1996? (I.E. R34's) and the OBDII engine management that I have read that are required. Are these vehicles required to be manufactured with OBDII or can they be retrofitted with a pre-conforming system?
They can be retrofitted. I wrote a paper about it:
http://www.andern.org/alexander/papers/skylineobd2/skylineobd2.pdf
... and have a prototype of the hardware/software in the works. So far all the R&D work is happening in my spare time, so I have no timetable for when it's going to be ready.
nismo_power
05-29-2005, 05:09 PM
there is only one company that is pushing to become an RI eligable to legalize skylines, and thats RB. sean (tydango) is working with RB to get their petition through, and ive recently heard that their petition is in the process of being reviewed.
fierojapan
05-29-2005, 07:04 PM
cool. i have three years over here, they should have something worked out by then.
shawn_carter69
05-30-2005, 07:11 PM
this may sound kinda dumb, but wtf happened to Motorex?
shawn_carter69
05-30-2005, 07:11 PM
P.S. and when?
VQuick
05-30-2005, 09:10 PM
P.S. and when?
This should help answer your questions. Click. (http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=67900300&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
This should help answer your questions. Click. (http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=67900300&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1)
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