The next performance car after the GT?

I hope Ford builds the Shelby GR-1. Carroll Shelby rejoined Ford in the summer of 2003.

The Ford Shelby GR-1 reminds me of the Shelby Daytona Coupe. Only six Shelby Daytona Coupes were built.

Notice the air intake of both the Shelby Daytona Coupe and the Ford Shelby GR-1.

From the 1964 Goodwood Tourist Trophy. Phil Hill and Dan Gurney drove these race cars.

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Dan Gurney drove this very Shelby Daytona Coupe.

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The Shelby GR-1 was first shown last summer at the 2004 Pebble Beach Concours.

check this link for more pictures and information

Ford Shelby GR-1 (http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-Ford-Shelby-GR-1-Concept.htm)

A Shelby GR-1 with an aluminum body was shown at the 2005 Detroit auto show.

check this link

Ford Shelby GR-1 with aluminum body (http://seriouswheels.com/top-2005-Ford-Shelby-GR1-Concept-Aluminum-Body.htm)

Another Shelby GR-1 article

GR-1 article (http://www.motorsportscenter.com/article_444.shtml)

Overall Le Mans winning prototype racer GT40 Mk II, 1965 F.I.A. GT World Championship winning Daytona Coupe, and the F.I.A. 289 Roadster.

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George Saridakis designed the Ford Shelby GR-1.

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6.4 liter 605 hp V-10

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I think the GR-1 definately has potential as a production car. I mean, Ford could, at the very least, make it hanbuilt or limited run and only build them to order so they dont experience heavy overstock like the GT. I dunno much about the GR-1 that would influence price, but would $250K be unreasonable?

The Shelby GR-1 would use a lot of parts from the mid engine Ford GT if it were built. This would help with costs.

The GT doesn't have a heavy overstock.

check the link for a video

video (http://www.anything-auto.net/VIDEOS/DRIVEAWAYS/shelbygr1.wmv)

The GR-1 could go into production as a 2008 model.

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/gr1concept05_06.jpg

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Shelby Daytona Coupes

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check the link

Aluminum tech (http://www.aluminum.org/ANTemplate.cfm?IssueDate=03/01/2004&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7108)

GT's chassis

http://www.aluminum.org/images/AluminumNow/0602/AUTO_Alum_Muscle_Welder.jpg

I'd love to see the Ford Shelby GR-1 race in GT sports car racing around the world like the Shelby Daytona Coupes.

check this link

Cobra Ferrari wars (http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=H709)

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Fire at Daytona

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Carroll Shelby, Dan Gurney, and pit crew

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Man, I would love to watch that DVD, I wonder if it's in Blockbuster, lol. I don't have $40 to dish out, dammit.

Anyway, I think if Ford would release the Shelby GR-1 and the Ford GT to race against the world in these races, yah, everyone would be screwed, once again...

Everytime I see that car, it does something to me. Man I gotta go change my pants.

Which car?

the GR-1

Do you like the 2004 Shelby GR-1 or the new one with the aluminum body?

Shelby Daytona Coupe

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I saw a commercial on tv for Esurance that showed a car that looked just like the GR-1.

I've heard it's been pushed back, until they develop the engine. Though they haven't cancelled it. Also they recently gave the go ahead to the next Lightning.

A V-10 might be more exciting than a V-8, but it isn't as balanced.

There will be no replacement for the GT. The GT500 will be the new top of the line Ford "performance" :rolleyes: product.

There will be no replacement for the GT. The GT500 will be the new top of the line Ford "performance" :rolleyes: product.

That's what I meant Ford announced they haven't terminated the project, but have put it on hold.

No its not on hold it has been shelved just like the next lightning

The GR-1 is a stunning design that will still be fresh several years from now.

There are several Ford concept cars that fit that criterion that have and will remain just that concepts.

2005 Iosis
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z10105/Ford_Iosis/default.aspx
2004 Bronco
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z7773/Ford_Bronco/default.aspx
1996 Indigo
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z409/Ford_Indigo/default.aspx
1993 Mustang Mach III
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z433/Ford_Mustang%20Mach%20III/default.aspx

But the GR-1 won’t be built unless Ford gets out of the financial hole they are in right now and finds a solution to the problems connected with the V10 or goes to a different engine. Either way it is very unlikely it will make it into production this decade if it ever makes it in to production.

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I hope it'll be another Mustang. Like a "GT-R or "GT500R." I want less weight, IRS, and at least 600hp. :D

But then again, who gives a f*%# about what I want? :frown:

All of that would be fun and it will never happen. I would love to have that out of a Ford but I am not going to want for years for an IRS in a Mustang that is if there ever will be one again. This 3-link is really a joke. Last time I rented a new Mustang I could feel the rear end sliding from side to side in curves and at speeds that my car could take easy. Instead of waiting I will step up to a car that is built for what I want something like say an M3.

Instead of waiting I will step up to a car that is built for what I want something like say an M3.

Which costs 250 % more than the base Mustang you likely rented.

Which costs 250 % more than the base Mustang you likely rented.
Nope I am talking about a E36M which can be found for less than the base Mustang.

Nope I am talking about a E36M which can be found for less than the base Mustang.

Which were last made in 1999.

Which were last made in 1999.
And still handles better than any mustang under $100K not to mention has better brakes, better seats, and controlls that were designed around the driver.

Then go buy one and stop trolling here.

All of that would be fun and it will never happen. I would love to have that out of a Ford but I am not going to want for years for an IRS in a Mustang that is if there ever will be one again. This 3-link is really a joke. Last time I rented a new Mustang I could feel the rear end sliding from side to side in curves and at speeds that my car could take easy. Instead of waiting I will step up to a car that is built for what I want something like say an M3.

the v6 you rented doesnt have the same performance parts as the gt. for instance, the v6 doesnt have a panhard bar, the gt does. which explains what you are talking about. have you driven a gt? im sure it handles at least a little better than the rental you had

Yes I have and like I have said before it impressed me so much that I kept my Cobra.

I saw an online ad for Armor All which showed the Shelby GR-1 concept.

I saw an online ad for Armor All which showed the Shelby GR-1 concept.
That doesn't mean that it will be built. Shelby is whoring out his name more now than he did in the 80s with dodge. Remember the GLHS, Lancer, CSX, CSX-T, Dakota, and CSX-VNT? All carried his name all were crap and thankfully have been largely forgotten. Just because it has his name on it doesn't mean that it is any good or that he even had a hand in its production. Hell he really had nothing to do with new GT500 other than a short test drive and a few photos. Ford never signed an exclusive agreement with him for the use of his name on cars. That is why they are able to build the POS CS6 and Shelby-West Coast Customs GT.

No its not on hold it has been shelved just like the next lightning

Well word is (from www.blueovalnews.com) that the car hasn't been officially terminated. Nore has the Lightning for that matter. The Cobra moniker has been dropped from the SVT Mustang, for now the GT500 will carry the performance load for Ford, and if the GSR1 is made it will be named Cobra. SVT is to make two trucks one small or mid-sized (the Adreneline) and another to be ?. As well there may be a GT350 Mustang in the works, as well as a Bullitt, Mach 1, California Special, GT Hertz (possibly 350), and maybe even a Boss. An SVT Fusion which was to debut in 07' is questionable as to being an 08' model or being terminated. The one thing that saddens me is that Ford has seemed to have givin' up on Lincoln making the brand nothing more than their version of Acura and not even trying to compete with BMW, and Mercedes let alone Cadillac.

SVT died on April 1 this year and no that was not a joke
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Columns/articleId=109512

California Special - nothing more than a pony package for the GT http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3988666#post3988666
GT Hertz – limited to only 500 units sold to Hertz rent a car
“SVT” Fusion - if it is built it will be nothing more than its Mazdaspeed counter part

Bullitt - on hold
Mach 1 - on hold
GT350 Mustang - no official word on this
Boss - no official word on this (Team Shinoda still has use of the name BOSS on the mustang)
Lightning - was canceled in late 2004
Adrenaline - was canceled as part of Ford’s "Way Forward" restructuring campaign this year

Lincoln is going to be competing with Cadillac more just have a look at this ugly grill
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Blue oval news is largely propaganda. Yes there is some good info there but trust nothing on the forums about future cars and never listen to their hype. Just take a look at how they hype up the GT/CS
Would Ford bring back the Boss? Could they be contemplating another Mach 1? How about another Bullitt? Their wait is now over: While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford, Mustang momentum continues to grow with the introduction of the uniquely styled, limited-edition 2007 Mustang GT/CS”
The GT/CS is nothing more than like I said a pony package for the GT. It just “snazzy stripes”, a hood, and bumper there is no performance to be found in this beyond what is in the base GT. When they stated “While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford, Mustang” they evidently forgot about the Charger R/T Daytona. Ford is the one playing catch-up in calling it a “special edition” based only looks not added performance.

I don't think I claimed the CS/GT to be anything more than a package, and as for Lincoln competing with Cadillac I still don't see that happening anytime soon with the exception of big SUVs. Eveything else from Lincoln seems to be glorified Mazdas and Volvos, all FWD based platforms, with AWD options but still FWD based. I agree the Navi is butt ugly especially with that grill. As a metter of fact Lincoln in general is loosing the trademark "waterfall" grill on all it's models. When Jay Mays left it started a downward spiral.

The loss of the DEW98 is what doomed the Lincoln car line up. The LS was really their only great car and its replacement is crap. Untill there is a production IRS for the S197 Lincoln will not have a good starting point to work from.

they evidently forgot about the Charger R/T Daytona.

Yes, Dodge did forget about the real Dayonta R/T.

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None of Chrysler's SRT8 cars come with a manual transmission.

thankfully have been largely forgotten.

Except for the CSX VNT's turbocharger which predated that of the new Porche 911 Turbo.

Turbochargers with variable geometry has been used before.

The 1989 Dodge Shelby Shadow CSX VNT used movable vanes around the turbine.

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None of Chrysler's SRT8 cars come with a manual transmission.
Your point being?

The Shelby GT-H is going to be an auto only car and the GT500 is only going to be made with a TR6060 6-speed manual. Why don’t you go over to SVTperformance and ask how many people want an auto in the GT500. The numbers may surprise you.

Except for the CSX VNT's turbocharger which predated that of the new Porche 911 Turbo.

Turbochargers with variable geometry has been used before.

The 1989 Dodge Shelby Shadow CSX VNT used movable vanes around the turbine.
And it was still put in an unimpressive front wheel drive car. So what is the BFD? The first Ford aluminum 4-valve mod motor was found in the in the 1993 Lincoln Mark VIII and without it you wouldn’t have the Ford GT engine of today. Does that make the 93 Mark VIII a great car or even one to be remembered decades from now? No not by a long shot.

well all i know is that ford needs to come up with something, right now they are about the only company that doesnt have a really high performance car in its lineup, that is after the GT is officially gone.

well all i know is that ford needs to come up with something, right now they are about the only company that doesnt have a really high performance car in its lineup, that is after the GT is officially gone.
Yea and I agree however they don't need another $150K car that is what Aston Martin is for. What Ford needs is a decently priced sports car not a Mustang but a real 2 seat RWD sports car with good handling, brakes, and power without a band-aid. For those of you who didn’t think it was possible for the Ford MOD motor to make power with out a supercharger Koenigsegg did what you thought was impossible and got 806bhp with only 4.7L
http://forums.svttexas.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1305&stc=1&d=1143927398

Yea and I agree however they don't need another $150K car that is what Aston Martin is for. What Ford needs is a decently priced sports car not a Mustang but a real 2 seat RWD sports car with good handling, brakes, and power without a band-aid. For those of you who didn’t think it was possible for the Ford MOD motor to make power with out a supercharger Koenigsegg did what you thought was impossible and got 806bhp with only 4.7L
http://forums.svttexas.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1305&stc=1&d=1143927398

looks like ford needs to take some pointers from them, hows the powerband on the engine?

01l2cobra wrote:
"Just take a look at how they hype up the GT/CS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue oval news
Would Ford bring back the Boss? Could they be contemplating another Mach 1? How about another Bullitt? Their wait is now over: While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford, Mustang momentum continues to grow with the introduction of the uniquely styled, limited-edition 2007 Mustang GT/CS”

The GT/CS is nothing more than like I said a pony package for the GT. It just “snazzy stripes”, a hood, and bumper there is no performance to be found in this beyond what is in the base GT."

Hm, perhaps that's what they meant by "the uniquely STYLED" but hey, that's just my take on it... ;-)

When you hear Boss, Mach 1, and to a lesser extent Bullitt you think performance not just looks. The GT/CS should NEVER be mentioned in context with those cars. Then this comment "While the competition scrambles once again to play catch-up to Ford" so what is this a looks competition now? If so Ford lost. The Charger Daytona looks much better even with 4 doors.

The Charger Daytona looks much better even with 4 doors.


ummm, no

ummm, no
um yea

Fake scoops belong on ricers