LS1 Fans
BlenderWizard
05-25-2005, 07:25 PM
I was just wondering, what is a good source for a set of LS1 fans out of a camaro?
NoRiceHere01
05-25-2005, 07:35 PM
good im not the only one lookin for camaro stuff to put in my truck haha. id kinda like to find a whole LS1, and the general opinion i get is look in junkyards. id say the same for the fans. tho u may wanna check, the fans may be the same for all camaros, not just LS1s. and knowing chevy, theyre the same as the ones in half the other cars in the lineup as well, so they shouldnt be too awful hard to find in a junkyard. um, just to be sure im not stupid, we are talking about cooling fans right? lol
BlenderWizard
05-25-2005, 07:41 PM
The LT1 fans are VERY similar, but are slightly different. The LS1 fans look like they'll mount up a little better. Plus the LS1 fans would automatically be newer.
NoRiceHere01
05-25-2005, 08:05 PM
tru, they would be newer. as long as ur putting fans in ur truck that dont belong there, have u just considered one of the electric fan kits made for them? u can get em from jegs and places like that, but theyre not that cheap. or, if ur gonna go new, u can even get a universal electric fan from flexilite. im just not that convinced that the fans gonna be that much better just cuz its from an LS1 camaro u know? if its electric its automatically an improvement over one runnin off the engine itself, regarless of blade design. as long as its big enuf for the engine's/truck's needs. i think id just go brand new, cuz ive considered the fan swap thing myself.
jethro_3
05-25-2005, 08:20 PM
I've done the swap and if you can find the elec fans out of a 2005 Z71, Tahoe, Suburban, Denali or Escalade you will be better off. The GM fans fall into the side brackets and the upper bolts line right up. If you use the LS1 fans you will have to drill a small hole in the bottom of the shroud to hold the bottom on an existing pin, make two straps, two holes each, and drill two holes in the upper part of the shroud. Also I found the engine temp is great but my trans temp will creep up to 190 max because the LS1 fans are smaller than the radiator in your truck. I was told to get a trans cooler and put it in line with the existing trans cooler to cure that problem. If you purchase all the parts for the 2005 elec fans from GM you are looking at $470+. If you have the harness from Nelson already there is no drilling, no nothing but bolt in and plug-n-play.
BlenderWizard
05-25-2005, 08:59 PM
Thanks for the tip. Looks like I'll wait a little while so the electric fans out of the other trucks become more abundant in junkyards.
jethro_3
05-25-2005, 09:12 PM
Not that they don't work, they just require more than bolt in and run for the LS1 fans.
BlenderWizard
05-25-2005, 09:14 PM
Not that they don't work, they just require more than bolt in and run for the LS1 fans.
Yeah, well, i didn't realize there were electric fans in some of these trucks. I had wondered if the Camaro fans would cool enough. Those pewter bumpers of yours would look nice on my truck if I ever decide to de-chrome mine...
Yeah, well, i didn't realize there were electric fans in some of these trucks. I had wondered if the Camaro fans would cool enough. Those pewter bumpers of yours would look nice on my truck if I ever decide to de-chrome mine...
jethro_3
05-25-2005, 09:20 PM
I found my first rock chip....... can't say that I like the look of that small spot though... just the cost of driving it.
jethro_3
05-25-2005, 09:22 PM
The roll pan on the back shortens up the truck enough that now I can put it in the garage. Definitely makes the smooth look better.
BlenderWizard
05-25-2005, 09:30 PM
I found my first rock chip....... can't say that I like the look of that small spot though... just the cost of driving it.
Go to a dealership and get a little bottle of touch up paint for $10. The color will match exactly. I had a few chips on and near my tailgate that I fixed with my paint.
Go to a dealership and get a little bottle of touch up paint for $10. The color will match exactly. I had a few chips on and near my tailgate that I fixed with my paint.
jethro_3
05-25-2005, 09:38 PM
I got a cheap body man who painted the three parts of the bumper for $60. He already gave me a small can of touch up paint for the rear quarter edges knowing that I would have some scratches when I installed the roll pan. He is "Pushing" me to get the cowl induction hood so he can do the black SS style strips on it for me.
BlenderWizard
05-25-2005, 11:45 PM
I got a cheap body man who painted the three parts of the bumper for $60. He already gave me a small can of touch up paint for the rear quarter edges knowing that I would have some scratches when I installed the roll pan. He is "Pushing" me to get the cowl induction hood so he can do the black SS style strips on it for me.
Since my truck is red and pewter, I was wondering if a red cowl induction hood with pewter stripes would look good or if I should just keep it solid red?
Since my truck is red and pewter, I was wondering if a red cowl induction hood with pewter stripes would look good or if I should just keep it solid red?
airtight_python
05-26-2005, 12:48 AM
Blender, I bet pewter stripes would look good. Maybe even pinstripe the edges with a darker accent color to make them "pop" just a 'lil bit more.
jethro_3
05-27-2005, 09:56 AM
Okay, new information. My truck currently has the 28 1/2x17. The new electric fans fit the 34x17 core radiator that comes in the 4x4, Z71 and HD's. After looking at the peices my '01 has the extra bolt holes for the bigger core radiator. So if I want the GM fans I will have to upgrade to the 34x17 core radiator and the electric fans, and 2 larger bolts. I believe those are the only parts needed. I also looked at the trans cooler on the brand new truck I found the fans on and the trans cooler was the same size so my temp problem will definitely be cured. :bananasmi
Slowprocess
05-28-2005, 01:27 PM
I'm using the lt1 fans out of a camaro with a Nelson wiring harness and my pcm is running my fans, as well as my ac. I have no cooling problems whatsoever, and this is on my stock radiator.
jethro_3
05-28-2005, 01:32 PM
Slowprocess, what does your Trans Temp run?
Slowprocess
05-28-2005, 01:36 PM
Slowprocess, what does your Trans Temp run?
Riding down the road, it runs about 160-180. Sitting in traffic in the heat of the day, the highest I've ever seen it get up to is around 210. My temps are running higher now since I raised my torque converter lockup to 40mph. It used to run under 200 pretty much all of the time when it locked up at an earlier speed, but I like the street manners of the higher lockup.
Riding down the road, it runs about 160-180. Sitting in traffic in the heat of the day, the highest I've ever seen it get up to is around 210. My temps are running higher now since I raised my torque converter lockup to 40mph. It used to run under 200 pretty much all of the time when it locked up at an earlier speed, but I like the street manners of the higher lockup.
jethro_3
05-28-2005, 01:40 PM
Your trans has been modfied slightly, LOL, so it can handle the higher temp right? Did you add another in line trans cooler or just the stock cooler setup? From what I've read and heard from others is that getting to 210 will shorten the life of a stock trans. Do you agree?
Slowprocess
05-28-2005, 02:12 PM
Your trans has been modfied slightly, LOL, so it can handle the higher temp right? Did you add another in line trans cooler or just the stock cooler setup? From what I've read and heard from others is that getting to 210 will shorten the life of a stock trans. Do you agree?
My tranny is completely built, so it can handle alot more abuse. I have a permacool tranny cooler inline with the stock cooler. From what I have gathered 210 isn't deadly to a 4l60. I've only hit it once, at lunch sitting in heavy traffic, outside temp was about 91 or so, and I couldn't get any room to stretch it out and lock up the converter. If I get to a crusing speed pretty early from leaving my house, the temp stays right at 155, but on average I'd say it stays in the 160 range and track passes gets it up into the 180-190 range.
My tranny is completely built, so it can handle alot more abuse. I have a permacool tranny cooler inline with the stock cooler. From what I have gathered 210 isn't deadly to a 4l60. I've only hit it once, at lunch sitting in heavy traffic, outside temp was about 91 or so, and I couldn't get any room to stretch it out and lock up the converter. If I get to a crusing speed pretty early from leaving my house, the temp stays right at 155, but on average I'd say it stays in the 160 range and track passes gets it up into the 180-190 range.
jethro_3
05-28-2005, 02:24 PM
Once my truck gets to operating temp the tranny starts the creep up to 190. Once at 190 it won't go down until I get above 60 for a run. Talking with Allen the trans should run 160-165. The air temp around here has only got to 92-95 and it looks to be 100+ sooner than later and I really don't want to see my trans temp get higher.
After looking at the new trucks I found the 6.0 Liter trucks have the 34x17 radiator with electric fans. LARGE fans, I did say LARGE didn't I?? Curious how well they work for a GM part. Can't hurt to put a larger radiator and fan setup in my truck. Now to be able to afford it, radiator and fans.
I am not saying the LS1 fans are bad, just not as cool as I want it to be.
After looking at the new trucks I found the 6.0 Liter trucks have the 34x17 radiator with electric fans. LARGE fans, I did say LARGE didn't I?? Curious how well they work for a GM part. Can't hurt to put a larger radiator and fan setup in my truck. Now to be able to afford it, radiator and fans.
I am not saying the LS1 fans are bad, just not as cool as I want it to be.
Slowprocess
05-28-2005, 02:33 PM
Once my truck gets to operating temp the tranny starts the creep up to 190. Once at 190 it won't go down until I get above 60 for a run. Talking with Allen the trans should run 160-165. The air temp around here has only got to 92-95 and it looks to be 100+ sooner than later and I really don't want to see my trans temp get higher.
After looking at the new trucks I found the 6.0 Liter trucks have the 34x17 radiator with electric fans. LARGE fans, I did say LARGE didn't I?? Curious how well they work for a GM part. Can't hurt to put a larger radiator and fan setup in my truck. Now to be able to afford it, radiator and fans.
I am not saying the LS1 fans are bad, just not as cool as I want it to be.
I've already priced a 6.0L radiator(one of my next mods). I think one problem with my cooling is the fact that my radiator has never been went through and cleaned out. I think with the 34" inch radiator, my lt1 fans, and my permacool cooler, I should have no problems with cooling the tranny or the engine. I think my tranny temps are pretty good considering the size stall I'm running and other factors. I'm like you though...I can never be "too" careful.
After looking at the new trucks I found the 6.0 Liter trucks have the 34x17 radiator with electric fans. LARGE fans, I did say LARGE didn't I?? Curious how well they work for a GM part. Can't hurt to put a larger radiator and fan setup in my truck. Now to be able to afford it, radiator and fans.
I am not saying the LS1 fans are bad, just not as cool as I want it to be.
I've already priced a 6.0L radiator(one of my next mods). I think one problem with my cooling is the fact that my radiator has never been went through and cleaned out. I think with the 34" inch radiator, my lt1 fans, and my permacool cooler, I should have no problems with cooling the tranny or the engine. I think my tranny temps are pretty good considering the size stall I'm running and other factors. I'm like you though...I can never be "too" careful.
jethro_3
05-28-2005, 03:25 PM
I found a company locally that makes a 34" cooler with oil cooler and trans cooler internal for $230, not bad. Then to see if I can find a used elec fan from a 34" rad. Soon, soon....
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